Absolute Truth

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Is there Absolute Truth?

  • Yes it is valid

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  • No it is not valid

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Feb 24, 2015
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The answer to this question, from our perspective is maybe.

In life the only thing as individuals we absolutely are aware of is that we exist. Whenever you are conscious you are looking through your eyes. Now beyond this everything is layers of experience and arguments of reliability based on repeated experiments, and even being conscious is an assumption.

Now in this world you can propose there is absolute truth out there, exterior to ourselves but because we are limited in our experience everything has to be described by how we came to that conclusion.

For me an interesting concept is morality. The closer you come to purity and love, the clearer you see what matters and what does not. But that means morality is bounded by where you stand, how you construct your life.

So the whole of reality is subjective to the creator, because without Him nothing would exist. So in that regard He defines absolute truth, because there is no other reference point in eternity.

We like certainty though, knowing is this thing safe or not, how does it work, like this or that. In this practical world of getting by, there is absolute truth. The lawn mower only works if the electricity is switched on. Now that is absolute truth in its relative state of what an electric lawn mower is, but we like the term absolute because it reassures us we have have got it right though it is really an exaguration.
 
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I think when you think deep enough about scientific reason and world-views you will find that absolute truth is hard to claim in any case. But Christ gives us absolute hope and absolute reason to have absolute truth.
Spoken like a wise man, that's really very good, thank you.
 
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phil112

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Is there absolute truth?
You've got it completely wrong.
Truth is absolute. Truth is immutable. There are not several different kinds of truth, only one. Truth is truth.
 
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Sirk

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You've got it completely wrong.
Truth is absolute. Truth is immutable. There are not several different kinds of truth, only one. Truth is truth.
There are things that are absolute truth. Like in John 14:6: Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

But there are shades of truth in things...for example: One persons large is another persons small. If a person gets too carried away with their perception of things that are true in their own eyes... it tips them over into antisocial behaviors etc which lead to all kinds of things like depression and whatnot.
 
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phil112

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There are things that are absolute truth. Like in John 14:6: Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

But there are shades of truth in things...for example: One persons large is another persons small. If a person gets too carried away with their perception of things that are true in their own eyes... it tips them over into antisocial behaviors etc which lead to all kinds of things like depression and whatnot.
You don't understand the definition of the word. Something is true or it isn't.
If a small man thinks something is big, but a big man disagrees, does that mean the small man is wrong? No. It is true to him.
Perception doesn't change reality. How we view something doesn't make it true or untrue.
 
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Sirk

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You don't understand the definition of the word. Something is true or it isn't.
If a small man thinks something is big, but a big man disagrees, does that mean the small man is wrong? No. It is true to him.
Perception doesn't change reality. How we view something doesn't make it true or untrue.
Well I wish there was a more simple way that I could explain to you what I am saying then...cuz obviously you are stuck yourself.
 
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You've got it completely wrong.
Truth is absolute. Truth is immutable. There are not several different kinds of truth, only one. Truth is truth.
So what is the truth about truth?, lol.
 
Feb 24, 2015
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You've got it completely wrong.
Truth is absolute. Truth is immutable. There are not several different kinds of truth, only one. Truth is truth.
This sounds like it makes sense, but unfortunately the context of everything is subjective.

Is an apple red?
1. Am I actually holding an apple or does it just appear so?
2. The light coming from the apple goes into my eye and is processed by my brain which creates a colour.
3. The image the brain creates is an approximation of the actual light because it varies depending on lighting conditions

So the truth is - the apple appears to me to be red.

Now I could define experiments which could measure the light and put it in a spectrum of light.
Now according to this benchmark I could then say it is red as measured on this scale.

But the truth is now relative only to the benchmark. Now you can suggest things are more absolute than this but this is what reality really is.