Adam and Eve first people on earth?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Feb 17, 2022
107
19
18
If we cannot take Genises 1-2:3 as truth then how can we take the rest of the bible as truth. Why would God say He rested from His work and then change everything. Even if God ended every thing at 2:3 that would still have him forming and breathing life into Adam after that. Why is it so hard to believe that God created the races on the 6th day and He created Adam sometime after the 7th day and Eve further down the line than that. That is what His word says happened; Right?
Because the scriptures clearly says he rested on the 7th day from all his creating. God come out of his rest period at the end of the 6th day which we are still living in today. The end of this world will be be done by the beginning of the 7th day which will be the start of the Great Tribulation into Armageddon. Genesis 2:2
 
Jul 24, 2021
494
78
28
Nope.

Jesus was foreordained to be the Lamb of God before the foundation of the world, and God knew exactly at what point in history his first coming would be.

Again, there was necessary procreation in order for all of that to be fulfilled.

Any non-heretic could easily understand the same, which is why it escapes you.
A gnostic would say that!
 

Magenta

Senior Member
Jul 3, 2015
56,145
26,208
113
Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

I think you are being disingenuous.
Dude, the text says right there in what you quoted that Adam would have to eat of the Tree of Life to
live forever. If that is not enough to convince you that he was not created immortal, I don't know what will.


Make up your own theology regardless of what the text says seems to be your M.O.
 

Magenta

Senior Member
Jul 3, 2015
56,145
26,208
113
No dishonesty. You asked, I answered.
I did not ask. More of your dishonesty. I commented on something you said.

To eat the tree of life, and be healed of death or forsake the fruit of the life and you will surely die. I would chose the former.
^ Right there. Stop being so dishonest.

My response was:
We are not using what you would do thousands of years later to shape our theological beliefs.


We are not using what you would do thousands of years later to shape our theological beliefs.
 
Jul 24, 2021
494
78
28
There are nations because God scattered the people and caused them to speak different languages.

Perhaps you should read the Bible. Just a thought.
Yes because they tried to make a tower to heaven. Pride and arrogance saying they know the Mind of God.
 

Magenta

Senior Member
Jul 3, 2015
56,145
26,208
113
Yes because they tried to make a tower to heaven. Pride and arrogance saying they know the Mind of God.
Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may
make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”
 
Jul 24, 2021
494
78
28
God had the remedy prepared before the problem ever existed.

Those who will burn in the lake of fire will do so because they hated the light and loved darkness.

It's their faults, and not God's fault.

Anyhow, you obviously don't understand anything about God or the Bible, nor do you seemingly have any real desire to do so.

With such being the case, I've just become "LactoseIntolerant" intolerant.

I'll leave you in the same heretical state that I found you in, and you'll have no one to blame for your folly in the end but your own stiff-necked and impenitent self.
Yes turn off the channel.
Your spirit has been discerned. It is amazing your virtue-signaling.
 

Dino246

Senior Member
Jun 30, 2015
24,750
13,402
113
20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

There was no animal that he wanted as helper.
The text says nothing whatsoever about Adam wanting a helper. The text says nothing about a "helper" at all. "Help meet" is not "helper".


God created Eve, not "they created Eve".


Afterthought, don't you think?
Not at all. God had already created mankind as male and female. He simply had not formed the female yet.


Sex with helpers? I certainly hope you are not in a managerial position. Expecting sex from a helper?
Such comments say far more about you than about others.
 
Jul 24, 2021
494
78
28
Dude, the text says right there in what you quoted that Adam would have to eat of the Tree of Life to
live forever. If that is not enough to convince you that he was not created immortal, I don't know what will.


Make up your own theology regardless of what the text says seems to be your M.O.
Dudette, I say he is immortal, not created immortal. Do you understand "contingently"? Do you understand "live forever" implies "immortality"?
 

Dino246

Senior Member
Jun 30, 2015
24,750
13,402
113
The lamb is pure. Period. The argument was that the sexual organs were the indication that Adam and Eve were sexual creatures from the outset.
If you're claiming that, in His purity, Jesus did not have genitalia, then all I can say is that lactose is not the only thing to which you're intolerant.
 
Jul 24, 2021
494
78
28
I did not ask. More of your dishonesty. I commented on something you said.



^ Right there. Stop being so dishonest.

My response was:
We are not using what you would do thousands of years later to shape our theological beliefs.
Wow. Your contention was that it was never written Adam ate the fruit of life, so Adam was not immortal (whatever that means). What I wrote is that that is disingenuous as the fruit was available and not forbidden. Adam more likely ate than not eat. If Adam kept eating the fruit he would be effectively immortal.
 
Jul 24, 2021
494
78
28
Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may
make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”
Exactly.
 

posthuman

Senior Member
Jul 31, 2013
36,681
13,132
113
Ecclesiastes 3:19-20 For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity. All go to one place. All are from the dust, and to dust all return.

Without the Grace of God , we are dust like the beasts. Sin denies you the Spirit endowed by God.
the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. Not only that, but we also who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body.
(Romans 8:19-23)
the other living souls were made subject to futility in hope, not by their will -- but man by his own will chose vanity.
they will all be delivered from corruption, along with whoever believes.