Adam and Eve

[Tintin]

And maybe Cain was Adams 1st Son, mentioned by name. Not first son. And maybe Abel was his 2nd son, mentioned by name. Not second son. And maybe Eden was the 1st Garden, mentioned by name. Not first Garden. Maybe there were many other Gardens God planted during those 130 years. And maybe God was displeased with some of Adam's other sons and daughters who sinned (perhaps murder, sexual immorality etc...) that were born to Adam, between the time of Abel and Cain, and God banished them from his presence to the land of Nod where they welcomed Cain later on after his banishment. So you had all these banished children of Adam living in Nod. And maybe all those sons he had besides Cain and Abel, but before Seth, were not qualified for the Messiah’s bloodline because they too were banished for displeasing the Lord by their offering and sins.

Maybe you have been influenced by the Jewish Talmudic mindset where rabbinical interpretation of the Torah creates another “holy” book.

That's a whole lot of speculation with no evidence to back up your claims. Cain was the first son. Eve thought she had given birth to the promised Messiah, but she hadn't. She had given birth to their first child, Cain. I haven't been influenced by Midrash, you're the one talking bollocks.

 

[Rockbysea]

That's a whole lot of speculation with no evidence to back up your claims. Cain was the first son. Eve thought she had given birth to the promised Messiah, but she hadn't. She had given birth to their first child, Cain. I haven't been influenced by Midrash, you're the one talking bollocks.

I was just imitating your train of thought... do you not have the basic intelligence to see that? Everything you stated is pure speculation and your own rabbinical-like interpretation.

 

[Rockbysea]

Cain was the first son.

But according to your reasoning, he was the first son mentioned by name. Not first son. So it's ok to apply your erroneous reasoning to Seth but mot Cain because it doesn't suit your rabbinical interpretations?

 

[thebesttrees]

There are clues in the Exodus narrative that describe Malek Yahweh (i.e. The Son) leading the way through the sea, etc...

What are the clues please? You can PM me if you wish.

 

[brighthouse98]

Did you ever wonder why there is a New Covenant!!! LOL Tis why many cults explore having children with more then one wife! Won't name any of these that do, you know who they are! LOL Stick with where you are at present, rather then where you have been, following does this brothers and sisters. The first covenant had faults in it, this one has no faults!! Heb 8:6-13 The first is obsolete for a very good reason!! lol

 

[Tintin]

But according to your reasoning, he was the first son mentioned by name. Not first son. So it's ok to apply your erroneous reasoning to Seth but mot Cain because it doesn't suit your rabbinical interpretations?

Cain was the first son mentioned by name and first son. Actually, he was the first person ever to be conceived. Technically, only Adam and Eve were created by God's very hand. My reasoning isn't erroneous. Adam and Eve had Cain and Abel and much later Seth. They had other sons and daughters. Cain was banished and built a city after his son, the result of 'knowing' his wife. The only viable conclusion is that Cain's wife is one of Adam and Eve's descendants.

 

[Rockbysea]

Cain was the first son mentioned by name and first son. Actually, he was the first person ever to be conceived. Technically, only Adam and Eve were created by God's very hand. My reasoning isn't erroneous. Adam and Eve had Cain and Abel and much later Seth. They had other sons and daughters. Cain was banished and built a city after his son, the result of 'knowing' his wife. The only viable conclusion is that Cain's wife is one of Adam and Eve's descendants.

Here’s your erroneous reasoning regarding Seth in your own words: “Seth was Adam's 3rd son, mentioned by name. Not third son.”

You offer no proof that Seth was not Adam’s third son and yet you state it as if it’s a fact. What about Abel? .If we apply your erroneous reasoning regarding Seth, “Abel was the second son mentioned by name. Not second son.” And you can also apply this ridiculous reasoning to Cain. In fact you can apply this ridiculous reasoning to just about any event in the bible as I previously demonstrated. You also have no evidence that Adam and Eve “had other sons and daughters” before Seth and yet you state it as if it was fact. How can anyone take you seriously with such blatant fabrications out of thin air? And you say Midrash does not influence you and yet here you are creating your own tintin Midrash, or what you call “bollocks.”

 

[Tintin]

Here’s your erroneous reasoning regarding Seth in your own words: “Seth was Adam's 3rd son, mentioned by name. Not third son.”

You offer no proof that Seth was not Adam’s third son and yet you state it as if it’s a fact. What about Abel? .If we apply your erroneous reasoning regarding Seth, “Abel was the second son mentioned by name. Not second son.” And you can also apply this ridiculous reasoning to Cain. In fact you can apply this ridiculous reasoning to just about any event in the bible as I previously demonstrated. You also have no evidence that Adam and Eve “had other sons and daughters” before Seth and yet you state it as if it was fact. How can anyone take you seriously with such blatant fabrications out of thin air? And you say Midrash does not influence you and yet here you are creating your own tintin Midrash, or what you call “bollocks.”

No evidence? Pull the other one. I suppose Cain just pulled his wife out of his backside? Adam and Eve had to have other sons and daughters, prior to Seth's birth, because Cain had a wife and she wasn't his mother, Eve.