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Ramon, there are several facets in the teaching of a type of death which Jesus speaks of. In the very beginning of His ministry, Jesus spoke of catching men like fish of the sea. I would like to share this facet of a beautiful gem with you and anyone who desires to know the hidden things of God.
*Feeding Bread And Fish To The Thousands
These are letters given between two people; I am 'L'
L
I made note of something *concerning the bread Jesus fed to the thousands; enough was given for all to eat. What we do not comprehend until we see it in our own witness, that the food we offer in spiritual terms is not like bread we make with our own hands, with a leaven which gives very little increase; When it is eaten, there is no more; Or fish, when given according to the teaching (leaven) of men; there is no more. But in Christ who fed both bread and fish to thousands, there was far more than what was needed to feed the thousands. Jesus said He is the bread of life. Now, carefully xamine your own life language and see that those things which are of the Spirit in you, are not limited, but continually, abundantly give beyond what we give naturally. *When a fish is killed and tried by fire, it becomes food? The spiritual things I have shared with you were not limited, but after you partook of this spiritual food, there came from you even more; An abundance the flesh cannot perceive. *So allow me this moment to reacquaint you with the things I've shared with you, and examine closely to see if this bread and fish was of men, or of the Spirit.
K
"Now this leaven reminds me of the knowledge that attempts to exalt itself Above the knowledge of God that you know and have known...another truth that reveals what is really happening in the invisible.*** Anyway, I was able to write some things to John that even surprised me....I can usually write some inspiring things when I really feel a heart for what someone is struggling over, because I reach inside for heart of Spirit toward them....but this time was so special, for the things I was able to write, and John was*very encouraged then he told me...and came to peace again....
And it occurred to me that all these things you have helped me to see have given me so much more to be able to reach into someone else's heart with....and I didn't think you would mind if I took on that spirit and even some of the words you have by that spirit for the sake of someone else....and I thought again of how it has seemed to me before that maybe the knowledge yes...but also the spirit in another God imparts to you...and in this way the things God has himself given you do not end in you....or even in just the people you personally minister to.....but the very spirit in you is passed on...."
L
What you have given witness to opens parable language to you. *As you speak, don't you also learn so much more? *And when someone hears your witness, are they filled all that much more that they have in their hearts an abundance not limited by the reasoning of men? **Do you remember the teaching of the fish; a creature nature which you were as you wandered as if you had no master over you....
Ramon, the very spirit in you is passed on
*Feeding Bread And Fish To The Thousands
These are letters given between two people; I am 'L'
L
I made note of something *concerning the bread Jesus fed to the thousands; enough was given for all to eat. What we do not comprehend until we see it in our own witness, that the food we offer in spiritual terms is not like bread we make with our own hands, with a leaven which gives very little increase; When it is eaten, there is no more; Or fish, when given according to the teaching (leaven) of men; there is no more. But in Christ who fed both bread and fish to thousands, there was far more than what was needed to feed the thousands. Jesus said He is the bread of life. Now, carefully xamine your own life language and see that those things which are of the Spirit in you, are not limited, but continually, abundantly give beyond what we give naturally. *When a fish is killed and tried by fire, it becomes food? The spiritual things I have shared with you were not limited, but after you partook of this spiritual food, there came from you even more; An abundance the flesh cannot perceive. *So allow me this moment to reacquaint you with the things I've shared with you, and examine closely to see if this bread and fish was of men, or of the Spirit.
K
"Now this leaven reminds me of the knowledge that attempts to exalt itself Above the knowledge of God that you know and have known...another truth that reveals what is really happening in the invisible.*** Anyway, I was able to write some things to John that even surprised me....I can usually write some inspiring things when I really feel a heart for what someone is struggling over, because I reach inside for heart of Spirit toward them....but this time was so special, for the things I was able to write, and John was*very encouraged then he told me...and came to peace again....
And it occurred to me that all these things you have helped me to see have given me so much more to be able to reach into someone else's heart with....and I didn't think you would mind if I took on that spirit and even some of the words you have by that spirit for the sake of someone else....and I thought again of how it has seemed to me before that maybe the knowledge yes...but also the spirit in another God imparts to you...and in this way the things God has himself given you do not end in you....or even in just the people you personally minister to.....but the very spirit in you is passed on...."
L
What you have given witness to opens parable language to you. *As you speak, don't you also learn so much more? *And when someone hears your witness, are they filled all that much more that they have in their hearts an abundance not limited by the reasoning of men? **Do you remember the teaching of the fish; a creature nature which you were as you wandered as if you had no master over you....
Ramon, the very spirit in you is passed on
C
Much of what you say is true, but be not deceived.
John 1: That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; [SUP]2 [/SUP](For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us
[SUP]3 [/SUP]That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us..
I see so many Christians today like the OP who think they are without sin and that they have died and are in their new forms already, I am not adept at the word but even I do not delude myself.
All the Saints and Apostles and every single Christian that has ever lived has sinned until the day they died, No one is good, no one seeketh after God, no not one.
believe in YHWH God the Father, Believe in the Son, believe in the Holy spirit that dwells within Christians on this world, Attempt to follow the law of god For the son acts as the father, Above all though the first and most IMPORTANT commandment of all is to Love the Lord thy God with all thy Mind, With all thy Body, and with All thy soul.
Let us reason between each other, And let us be guided by the truth, The truth as God is, Not as how we wish God to be.
Peace be with you, keep up the good fight of the Holy Scriptures. You are standing up for CHRIST, brethren Ramon. i hear you clearly but do not continue to wrestle against flesh and blood who are blinded by GOD to continue in Christ the HOLY SPIRIT of the Holy Scriptures written in the Holy Bible. They want to continue in sensual things and imagination, signs and wonders,
But only CHRIST who reminds and stir up our memories, according the New Covenant teachings say; "Adulteress and perverse generation always looking for a sign but the only sign you may receive is the Holy Scriptural signs of the New Covenant." As which GOD made with every born again believers because of CHRIST, who is also their King of kings forever and also the sent New Covenant builder the promised MESSIAH, even continued through HIS Apostles to complete the New Covenant for HIS churches to bring all of them to submission to that one sound doctrine.
May GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST keep you and bless you in spirit and truth.
But only CHRIST who reminds and stir up our memories, according the New Covenant teachings say; "Adulteress and perverse generation always looking for a sign but the only sign you may receive is the Holy Scriptural signs of the New Covenant." As which GOD made with every born again believers because of CHRIST, who is also their King of kings forever and also the sent New Covenant builder the promised MESSIAH, even continued through HIS Apostles to complete the New Covenant for HIS churches to bring all of them to submission to that one sound doctrine.
May GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST keep you and bless you in spirit and truth.
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First of all,
what "Christian" means?
Acts 11:26
26 | and when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that even for a whole year they were gathered together with the church, and taught much people, and that the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
So Christian is a disciple of the Christ, someone who already has known the bible, and has been taught to observe whatsoever Jesus commands
Yes all Christian must die, like everyone, but there is not only one kind of death
-first is like all people, the way of this world but there are exceptions as Jesus said
Matthew 16:28
28 | Verily I say unto you, there are some of them that stand here, who shall in no wise taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
-Then, when someone commits a sin, his soul is dead even he lives
1Timothy 5:6
6 | But she that giveth herself to pleasure is dead while she liveth.
Ezekiel 18:4
4 | ...the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
we will be saved by baptism, and when we will be baptized, we should not commit a sin anymore, because we become a child of God/begotten of God, see John 3:5
1John 3:9
9 | Whosoever is begotten of God doeth no sin, because his seed abideth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is begotten of God.
So whoever feels that it is yet hard to not sin,or it is difficult to do without the world and its lust, it is better to this person to find where is the true way to be free
John 8:36
36 | If therefore the Son shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
if you say "this way is Jesus", and after?...Why do you continu to do sin????perhaps you are not in this way because you are in the way of sin and so a bondservant of sin as the Scripture says:
John 8:34
34 | Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Every one that committeth sin is the bondservant of sin.
-And then, all people who couldn't no longer continu this true way of Jesus, indeed, all other who prefer to choose another way, even already dead in the first or lived, will perish, it is called:second death (the lake of fire)
Revelation 20:14
14 | And death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death, 'even' the lake of fire.
But Jesus said:
John 6:37
37 | All that which the Father giveth me shall come unto me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
how to come unto Him?how to do it really?
All I want is to also see you be given this opportunity
what "Christian" means?
Acts 11:26
26 | and when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that even for a whole year they were gathered together with the church, and taught much people, and that the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
So Christian is a disciple of the Christ, someone who already has known the bible, and has been taught to observe whatsoever Jesus commands
Yes all Christian must die, like everyone, but there is not only one kind of death
-first is like all people, the way of this world but there are exceptions as Jesus said
Matthew 16:28
28 | Verily I say unto you, there are some of them that stand here, who shall in no wise taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
-Then, when someone commits a sin, his soul is dead even he lives
1Timothy 5:6
6 | But she that giveth herself to pleasure is dead while she liveth.
Ezekiel 18:4
4 | ...the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
we will be saved by baptism, and when we will be baptized, we should not commit a sin anymore, because we become a child of God/begotten of God, see John 3:5
1John 3:9
9 | Whosoever is begotten of God doeth no sin, because his seed abideth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is begotten of God.
So whoever feels that it is yet hard to not sin,or it is difficult to do without the world and its lust, it is better to this person to find where is the true way to be free
John 8:36
36 | If therefore the Son shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
if you say "this way is Jesus", and after?...Why do you continu to do sin????perhaps you are not in this way because you are in the way of sin and so a bondservant of sin as the Scripture says:
John 8:34
34 | Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Every one that committeth sin is the bondservant of sin.
-And then, all people who couldn't no longer continu this true way of Jesus, indeed, all other who prefer to choose another way, even already dead in the first or lived, will perish, it is called:second death (the lake of fire)
Revelation 20:14
14 | And death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death, 'even' the lake of fire.
But Jesus said:
John 6:37
37 | All that which the Father giveth me shall come unto me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
how to come unto Him?how to do it really?
All I want is to also see you be given this opportunity