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Fundaamental

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Born again athiests have been around a long time.

Like the indulgence of sins practiced by the medievil church.
Where by you had to give money to have your sins wiped clean.
 
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OLDMANBORNAGAIN

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The insults are getting pretty bad, here, aren't they?!
 

Fundaamental

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The insults are getting pretty bad, here, aren't they?!
I don't understand it a Christian should know better not to repay evil with evil.
But then we all have to grow I guess.
But I can't see the student of Christ. Just a student of earthly insults at the moment.
But perhaps he has a valid reason.
But so far I fail to see it.
 

hornetguy

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Did he receive his sight? Was Paul filled with the Holy Spirit? YES. Did Jesus say to do both? YES. Where you get the idea he was not to be filled with the Holy Spirit when Ananias said Jesus said Paul was to be. Context guy.
You seem to be skipping over the part where Paul rose and IMMEDIATELY was baptized..... THAT'S when he received the Holy Spirit.... just as promised by Peter, at Pentecost.
 

hornetguy

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English is obviously not your first language and it is my conviction you are either trolling and having a laugh and trying to make sincere but mistaken Christians out as fools, or you are bored and think to pass away that boredom by making the inane and actually stupid comments you have made.
Finally..... somebody besides me sees it......(y)(y)
 

studentoftheword

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Just answer a truthful question without resorting to anymore ridiculous pictures.
My view

I don't understand why you find the pictures ridiculous -----I am simply posting the truth of how Satan works as you seem to have no idea -----I am trying to help you -----and it is you that is taking offence --not me -----

your post here is ridiculous -------once one has tasted the Goodness and Blessings that God gives His Born Again Children -----they will never want to leave and go back to their old life ----and if they do they are doomed ---you cannot go in and out of your Salvation at your whim ----that is a ridiculous statement you make -----your posting is ridiculous ------you don't try God's Free Graced Gift of Salvation ----you either accept Jesus or you don't ------Your making a Mockery of God by posting what you have here below -----Your Cheapening God's Grace and what Jesus did and accomplished on the Cross by suggesting that anyone can just try God;s Salvation out whenever they want ----and then just leave treating it like it is a joke ----

You should be ashamed of yourself for making light of God's graced Gift of Salvation ------Atheist don't believe in God at all -----your ignorance of the truth and understanding of God's Word ---Who Is Jesus---is showing big time with your ridiculous posting -------here

Fundaamental said:
But any way did you know there's a new born again atheist church rising,

This is there deliverance.

Lord I know you died for my sins and I know you can bless me with the holy spirit, I know you can forgive me sins and take me in as one of your flock.
But I also know I can walk away from you if don't want you in my life anymore.

So lord i would like to try your salvation out first befor I decide I want your salvation.

Seriously there is a new doctrine in place it tells new believers you can forfeit your salvation if you want
to.
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You need to study what the Scriptures says -----Atheists are away from God as are all Sinners and God's face is turned from them ---He does not hear them -----God cannot entertain evil or sin -Repentance and God's Faith is needed first off and God has to draw the person to want to hear the Scriptures in the first place and Atheist's hearts are hardened towards God ------so the new church you talk about belongs to Satan ---NOT GOD ----Period

Isaiah 59
Separation from God
59 Behold, the Lord’s hand is not so short
That it cannot save,
Nor His ear so [a]impaired
That it cannot hear.
2
But your wickedness has separated you from your God,
And your sins have hidden His face from you so that He does not hear.
3
For your hands are defiled with blood
And your fingers with wickedness [with sin, with injustice, with wrongdoing];
Your lips have spoken lies,
Your tongue mutters wickedness.
4
No one sues righteously [but for the sake of doing injury to othersβ€”to take some undue advantage], and no one pleads [his case] in truth; [but rather]
They trust in empty arguments and speak lies;
They conceive trouble and bring forth injustice.
5
They hatch vipers’ eggs and weave the spider’s webs;
He who eats of their eggs dies,
And from an egg which is crushed a viper breaks out.
6
Their webs will not serve as clothing,
Nor will they cover themselves with what they make;
Their works are works of wickedness [of sin, of injustice, of wrongdoing],
And the act of violence is in their hands.
7
Their feet run to evil,
And they rush to shed innocent blood.
Their thoughts are thoughts of wickedness [of sin, of injustice, of wrongdoing];
Devastation and destruction are in their highways.
8
They do not know the way of peace,
And there is no justice in their tracks.
They have made them into crooked paths;
Whoever walks on them does not know peace.
 

CS1

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The Lord's words not mine below. Pretty clear what the Lord's instructions were to Ananias.

Acts 9:11-12

11And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and inquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth, 12 And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight.
Here is a question for being it is so clear as you say, and the context ends in verses 11-12
 

CS1

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You seem to be skipping over the part where Paul rose and IMMEDIATELY was baptized..... THAT'S when he received the Holy Spirit.... just as promised by Peter, at Pentecost.

I agree with you 100% and I said just that :)
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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Ya ---Well Satan has you and all these people so deceived and hooked into believing this False Doctrine -----so sad for you all

You need to understand How Satan works -----



You need to understand How Satan Bates and Hooks you ----

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You and this new born again atheist church rising is rising out of Hell Not Heaven ---

You have all been Had by the Great Deceiver ----



And Satan is laughing all the way to His Soul bank as He has you and others to deposit ------

why do you claim to know how satan works?
 

Fundaamental

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My view

I don't understand why you find the pictures ridiculous -----I am simply posting the truth of how Satan works as you seem to have no idea -----I am trying to help you -----and it is you that is taking offence --not me -----

your post here is ridiculous -------once one has tasted the Goodness and Blessings that God gives His Born Again Children -----they will never want to leave and go back to their old life ----and if they do they are doomed ---you cannot go in and out of your Salvation at your whim ----that is a ridiculous statement you make -----your posting is ridiculous ------you don't try God's Free Graced Gift of Salvation ----you either accept Jesus or you don't ------Your making a Mockery of God by posting what you have here below -----Your Cheapening God's Grace and what Jesus did and accomplished on the Cross by suggesting that anyone can just try God;s Salvation out whenever they want ----and then just leave treating it like it is a joke ----

You should be ashamed of yourself for making light of God's graced Gift of Salvation ------Atheist don't believe in God at all -----your ignorance of the truth and understanding of God's Word ---Who Is Jesus---is showing big time with your ridiculous posting -------here

Fundaamental said:
But any way did you know there's a new born again atheist church rising,

This is there deliverance.

Lord I know you died for my sins and I know you can bless me with the holy spirit, I know you can forgive me sins and take me in as one of your flock.
But I also know I can walk away from you if don't want you in my life anymore.

So lord i would like to try your salvation out first befor I decide I want your salvation.

Seriously there is a new doctrine in place it tells new believers you can forfeit your salvation if you want to.
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You need to study what the Scriptures says -----Atheists are away from God as are all Sinners and God's face is turned from them ---He does not hear them -----God cannot entertain evil or sin -Repentance and God's Faith is needed first off and God has to draw the person to want to hear the Scriptures in the first place and Atheist's hearts are hardened towards God ------so the new church you talk about belongs to Satan ---NOT GOD ----Period

Isaiah 59
Separation from God
59 Behold, the Lord’s hand is not so short
That it cannot save,
Nor His ear so [a]impaired
That it cannot hear.
2
But your wickedness has separated you from your God,
And your sins have hidden His face from you so that He does not hear.
3
For your hands are defiled with blood
And your fingers with wickedness [with sin, with injustice, with wrongdoing];
Your lips have spoken lies,
Your tongue mutters wickedness.
4
No one sues righteously [but for the sake of doing injury to othersβ€”to take some undue advantage], and no one pleads [his case] in truth; [but rather]
They trust in empty arguments and speak lies;
They conceive trouble and bring forth injustice.
5
They hatch vipers’ eggs and weave the spider’s webs;
He who eats of their eggs dies,
And from an egg which is crushed a viper breaks out.
6
Their webs will not serve as clothing,
Nor will they cover themselves with what they make;
Their works are works of wickedness [of sin, of injustice, of wrongdoing],
And the act of violence is in their hands.
7
Their feet run to evil,
And they rush to shed innocent blood.
Their thoughts are thoughts of wickedness [of sin, of injustice, of wrongdoing];
Devastation and destruction are in their highways.
8
They do not know the way of peace,
And there is no justice in their tracks.
They have made them into crooked paths;
Whoever walks on them does not know peace.
Right ok you've listened to another member here suggesting I am making a mockery of God,

Because this was mentioned along with all the other insults.
Which if I had replied to, you can bet your bottom dollar a mockery of God would have preceded.

Look student the unjust judge made a mockery of God not me.


I pray everyday on how I can please you today lord.
Not for myself.
I pray only for what I can recieve to please Jesus.

My only wish is to gain knowledge on spiritual awareness from Christians who have been there.
But don't take my word for it.
Take somebody who has Angus Buchan.
Please watch it he will tell you about the unjust Judge.
 

Dino246

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That's why the scripture says you must have one who also interprets, or shut up!
Um, no.

The Scripture says if there is no interpreter, the speaker is to speak to himself and to God. That is not the same as β€˜shut up’.

28But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.
 

Dino246

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It sounds like your offended by the op of the thread.

Has the op insulted you or something ?.

It's seems to have offended quite a few people here.

Which is why I'm not engaging because I can't see why you would want to believe the unjust judge was saved or he was confessing with sincerity.

Just answer a truthful question without resorting to anymore ridiculous pictures.
Do you think the unjust just was confessing with sincerity baring in mind he had only set out to let the persistent widow have justice, because he didn't care what God thought or what people thought.
His only motive to confess God brings justice was for his own desire.

Why would you become offended by me calling an unjust judge an athiest. ?
I don’t think anyone is β€œoffended” by your post. Many of us do, however, think your premise and reasoning are deeply flawed.
 

DJT_47

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Um, no.

The Scripture says if there is no interpreter, the speaker is to speak to himself and to God. That is not the same as β€˜shut up’.

28But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.
Same difference. I was being blunt
 

Dino246

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Same difference. I was being blunt
Ah. I understand blunt when there are contextual and tonal clues. This venue doesn’t convey the latter well.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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There is no such thing as a born again atheist. There are those who claim to be but they deceive themselves. Biblically, "born again" is the antithesis of atheism. An atheist who becomes born again will no longer be an atheist.
Those who claim to follow the teachings of Jesus while rejecting, who Jesus is are simply moralists who havent actually studied what Jesus taught. They may as well adopt platonism or any other moralistic code of conduct.

As for the parable of the unjust Judge; Jesus was contrasting the difference between the judge and God the Father. That even an unjust judge will give justices if someone is persistent enough, but that God will deal justice swiftly. The idea isnt that one must harass The Father through persistence but rather, that God is swift in answering the petitions of those who call upon Him.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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28But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.
Keep silent in the church. Is part of that statement. So yes shut up in church, talk to God elsewhere or else time, how ever you want to frame it.
You two are talking past eachother.
 

presidente

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There is no such thing as a born again atheist. There are those who claim to be but they deceive themselves. Biblically, "born again" is the antithesis of atheism. An atheist who becomes born again will no longer be an atheist.
Those who claim to follow the teachings of Jesus while rejecting, who Jesus is are simply moralists who havent actually studied what Jesus taught. They may as well adopt platonism or any other moralistic code of conduct.

As for the parable of the unjust Judge; Jesus was contrasting the difference between the judge and God the Father. That even an unjust judge will give justices if someone is persistent enough, but that God will deal justice swiftly. The idea isnt that one must harass The Father through persistence but rather, that God is swift in answering the petitions of those who call upon Him.
I am curious what was in mind for 'born again atheist'-- maybe meant as a metaphor. In the Biblical sense that isn't a thing. But there have probably been preachers and street witnessers who decreed atheists to be born again for repeating a prayer. There is this idea in some circles that repeating a prayer is what saves... as opposed to believing the gospel....and so some people are told to repeat a prayer without even telling them that Jesus rose from the dead.

Secular society has coopted the tetm 'born again' and used it for 'born again virgin'-- not a virgin who got born again but a fornicator who stopped fornicating.

The purpose of the parable was to teach how poeople should 'always pray and not lose heart.'
 

Fundaamental

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I don't think there is a way to prove it grammatically, but the passage says that the Lord said... then quotes the Lord, and Jesus doesn't say he is quoting the judge again. And it makes sense if He is referring back to what the judge said in the parable.

You could look at where modern translations put quotation marks, but that is evidence for how panels of scholars translate it. Back when the passage was written, Greek did not have quotation marks, apparently.
I think there is away to prove Jesus was speaking through the unjust Judge (athiest) all the way through verses luke 1-8. And it was also a prophecy.
And this is not a mockery.
Because God can speak through a donkey (any athiest)

The unjust Judge had no intension of pleasing God, in the previous verse his Idea to give the the persistent widow seeking Justice,
Was not because he feared God, but for his own desire,

What does this mean.

Well an unjust Judge who is accountable to God should always bring Justice For God's name sake not for him self.

His attitude is clearly demonstrated that he was never doing that, and he was giving people Justice to recieve Justice and praise for himself, (a self righteous typical person seeking praise and glory for himself.

So where the unjust judge spoke from verse 1-8 he was never going to speak how Jesus would have because he didn't care what God thought.

But yet the whole statement from verse 1-8 was exactly How Jesus thought.

This means to me that Jesus was speaking through a donkey (athiest unjust judge)., Revealing a prophecy.

So then I say if a prophecy can come through a donkey why is it so hard to believe it can come through a Christian who brings all things Good for the Glory of God.
 

Fundaamental

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I am curious what was in mind for 'born again atheist'-- maybe meant as a metaphor. In the Biblical sense that isn't a thing. But there have probably been preachers and street witnessers who decreed atheists to be born again for repeating a prayer. There is this idea in some circles that repeating a prayer is what saves... as opposed to believing the gospel....and so some people are told to repeat a prayer without even telling them that Jesus rose from the dead.

Secular society has coopted the tetm 'born again' and used it for 'born again virgin'-- not a virgin who got born again but a fornicator who stopped fornicating.

The purpose of the parable was to teach how poeople should 'always pray and not lose heart.'
All tho you think the parable was just about never losing hope and always pray there's also a deeper meaning which I have just illustrated to you, which gives a deeper meaning of why we need to pray daily.

Well this is because I could become a donkey in 5 minutes.
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