AM I JEW OR A GENTILE IF I KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS ?
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this poster was asked to provide the post where i said Christ is not eternal (or whatever she means).
you will not find anywhere that i have ever said anything like that. now kindly apologize for mistaking me for someone else, or deliberately and with malice accusing me of such a serious heresy.
you have issues, woman.
make this right, please.
i can't do anything about your theological problems, but you can apologize for another accusation.
get the post where i said Jesus didn't exist from the beginning. if you do not find it, then apologize.
i'll give a reasonable time before reporting you to the administration of the site.
you will not find anywhere that i have ever said anything like that. now kindly apologize for mistaking me for someone else, or deliberately and with malice accusing me of such a serious heresy.
you have issues, woman.
make this right, please.
i can't do anything about your theological problems, but you can apologize for another accusation.
get the post where i said Jesus didn't exist from the beginning. if you do not find it, then apologize.
i'll give a reasonable time before reporting you to the administration of the site.
let's hope so. claiming Christ was not from the beginning and that all things were made through him is a very serious heresy.
you need to show me saying that or anything like it. not some twisted version you concocted in your mind. i'll be reporting you for accusing me (now several times to other members, in public) of a potentially damnable heresy, that Jesus was somehow a created demi-god, or just a man.
now please take the time you need to prove that i have said anything like that.
and apologize when you don't find it (which you won't). i'll be reporting you for all your false accusations by the end of this day otherwise.
you need to show me saying that or anything like it. not some twisted version you concocted in your mind. i'll be reporting you for accusing me (now several times to other members, in public) of a potentially damnable heresy, that Jesus was somehow a created demi-god, or just a man.
now please take the time you need to prove that i have said anything like that.
and apologize when you don't find it (which you won't). i'll be reporting you for all your false accusations by the end of this day otherwise.
C
Redtent,
I would also like to see where he said this because a search (Vaudeville Christ/Jesus not chiristianchat.com) did not come up with him having said this. I know sometimes our minds paste things together and assume that thought to be correct. Maybe this happened? But, if you have seen him saying it then posting it would help the matter.
I would also like to see where he said this because a search (Vaudeville Christ/Jesus not chiristianchat.com) did not come up with him having said this. I know sometimes our minds paste things together and assume that thought to be correct. Maybe this happened? But, if you have seen him saying it then posting it would help the matter.
hiyar both and wc 
its not a matter of being blinded by sight its a matter of being blinded spiritually, what the spirit reveals to you spiritually is not something the spirit will reveal by sight, As you know one walks by faith and not by sight when somethings revealed we have to determine whether it is are sight or its been reveald to us spititualy (hence the carnal side of things or the spiritual side of things) the only thing that needs to change in my opinion is Jews need to live among gentiles and gentiles need to live among Jews, then we will have a new Jerusalem (new heaven new earth) rev 21)
And also this befor there can be new jeruselem this needs to happen
Who is the wolf ? (and no its not Satan) spiritually in human form ? who is this spiritualy in human form ? (unbelievers that dont believe and dont behave like Jesus did.
who is lamb the lamb are the exact opposite of this.
The goat spiritually who is the Goat ? in human spiritual form, look to (mathew 25)
The calf spiritualy who is calf ? in human spiritual form. ?
have a happy sunday God bless
its not a matter of being blinded by sight its a matter of being blinded spiritually, what the spirit reveals to you spiritually is not something the spirit will reveal by sight, As you know one walks by faith and not by sight when somethings revealed we have to determine whether it is are sight or its been reveald to us spititualy (hence the carnal side of things or the spiritual side of things) the only thing that needs to change in my opinion is Jews need to live among gentiles and gentiles need to live among Jews, then we will have a new Jerusalem (new heaven new earth) rev 21) And also this befor there can be new jeruselem this needs to happen
Who is the wolf ? (and no its not Satan) spiritually in human form ? who is this spiritualy in human form ? (unbelievers that dont believe and dont behave like Jesus did.
who is lamb the lamb are the exact opposite of this.
The goat spiritually who is the Goat ? in human spiritual form, look to (mathew 25)
The calf spiritualy who is calf ? in human spiritual form. ?
have a happy sunday God bless
P
The deadly doctrine of salvation through the blood of Christ by God's grace? Woman, that is blasphemous.
red, you need to start reading the bible. You actually have no clue what salvation is. The new testament has all you will ever need to know to get to heaven, and ignoring it by depending on the law for salvation will condemn you to hell.
The inclusion of the gentiles into God's plan made necessary a new covenant to include all people. The old commandments, "contained in ordinances", was insufficient.
We are made close to God, not far off as we once were, by the blood of Christ. That blood didn't come 'til Christ's death. You are holding yourself at arms length from God when He desires you to come close. That is a foolish, foolish, thing to do. The foundation that this house is built on, isn't, as you wish it were, the law, but the apostles and prophets, with Christ Himself being the Chief cornerstone.
Read the new testament red.
red, you need to start reading the bible. You actually have no clue what salvation is. The new testament has all you will ever need to know to get to heaven, and ignoring it by depending on the law for salvation will condemn you to hell.
The inclusion of the gentiles into God's plan made necessary a new covenant to include all people. The old commandments, "contained in ordinances", was insufficient.
We are made close to God, not far off as we once were, by the blood of Christ. That blood didn't come 'til Christ's death. You are holding yourself at arms length from God when He desires you to come close. That is a foolish, foolish, thing to do. The foundation that this house is built on, isn't, as you wish it were, the law, but the apostles and prophets, with Christ Himself being the Chief cornerstone.
Read the new testament red.
K
[h=3]John 1[/h]King James Version (KJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]The same was in the beginning with God.
Jewish rabbis comfortably began every temple meeting with the words, "Blessed art thou, O Lord, for thou has not made me a woman."
One of their more severe laws against women required stoning to death any woman caught in adultery. So they instigated a mob and dragged a prostitute before Jesus, making her stand alone in the seething crowd ready to stone her. They said to Jesus:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]The same was in the beginning with God.
Jewish rabbis comfortably began every temple meeting with the words, "Blessed art thou, O Lord, for thou has not made me a woman."
One of their more severe laws against women required stoning to death any woman caught in adultery. So they instigated a mob and dragged a prostitute before Jesus, making her stand alone in the seething crowd ready to stone her. They said to Jesus:
"Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?"[SUP]1
(Of course, they were breaking law themselves by not bring the man involved also, (it takes 2 to tango) but this was the mindset, they were above the law).
We should all know Jesus' famous response, "..he who is without sin cast the first stone.."
When Jesus came He demonstrated that women are valuable human beings, [/SUP][SUP]women who loved Jesus stood waiting at his cross while he died, when most of the male disciples fled for their lives.
In multiple previous posts are examples of Pharisees of ancient, piling on top of each other to condemn Redtent, an accusation far less than adultery. Where is that grace from Jesus you all claim to have?
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(Of course, they were breaking law themselves by not bring the man involved also, (it takes 2 to tango) but this was the mindset, they were above the law).
We should all know Jesus' famous response, "..he who is without sin cast the first stone.."
When Jesus came He demonstrated that women are valuable human beings, [/SUP][SUP]women who loved Jesus stood waiting at his cross while he died, when most of the male disciples fled for their lives.
In multiple previous posts are examples of Pharisees of ancient, piling on top of each other to condemn Redtent, an accusation far less than adultery. Where is that grace from Jesus you all claim to have?
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If you have something to say to someone, don't be shy speak up. Since you didn't have the nerve to put a name with your accusations, I take it you included me in that group. In America we have the right to face our accusers. If you are accusing me, stand up and stop being a coward.
Since you didn't specifically exclude me, you show me one thing I said that was an "accusation" and not truth. Everything I said, I stated it with scriptural support.
Like red, you don't like the new testament either, apparently. Your argument, like hers, is with God. All I have done is bring scripture to the table. Instead of rebutting scripture, just as she does, you attack the messenger. That isn't going to get you any closer to heaven either. You people are incredibly stubborn. I have never seen anyone resist the truth as much as you judaizers do. I used to wonder how God could do what He said in the 2nd chapter of 2nd Thessalonians, but it is clear now.
Since you didn't specifically exclude me, you show me one thing I said that was an "accusation" and not truth. Everything I said, I stated it with scriptural support.
Like red, you don't like the new testament either, apparently. Your argument, like hers, is with God. All I have done is bring scripture to the table. Instead of rebutting scripture, just as she does, you attack the messenger. That isn't going to get you any closer to heaven either. You people are incredibly stubborn. I have never seen anyone resist the truth as much as you judaizers do. I used to wonder how God could do what He said in the 2nd chapter of 2nd Thessalonians, but it is clear now.
K
Phil, you can only abuse those who let you. Redtent has the patience(endurance) of Job concerning you. I do not.
Corinthians 2:6
Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? 15Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? 16Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, "I WILL DWELL IN THEM AND WALK AMONG THEM; AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE.…
edited to say...oh yeah, this is from the New Testament.
Corinthians 2:6
Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? 15Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? 16Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, "I WILL DWELL IN THEM AND WALK AMONG THEM; AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE.…
edited to say...oh yeah, this is from the New Testament.
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hiyar both and wc its not a matter of being blinded by sight its a matter of being blinded spiritually, what the spirit reveals to you spiritually is not something the spirit will reveal by sight, As you know one walks by faith and not by sight when somethings revealed we have to determine whether it is are sight or its been reveald to us spititualy (hence the carnal side of things or the spiritual side of things) the only thing that needs to change in my opinion is Jews need to live among gentiles and gentiles need to live among Jews, then we will have a new Jerusalem (new heaven new earth) rev 21)
And also this befor there can be new jeruselem this needs to happen
Who is the wolf ? (and no its not Satan) spiritually in human form ? who is this spiritualy in human form ? (unbelievers that dont believe and dont behave like Jesus did.
who is lamb the lamb are the exact opposite of this.
The goat spiritually who is the Goat ? in human spiritual form, look to (mathew 25)
The calf spiritualy who is calf ? in human spiritual form. ?
have a happy sunday God bless
its not a matter of being blinded by sight its a matter of being blinded spiritually, what the spirit reveals to you spiritually is not something the spirit will reveal by sight, As you know one walks by faith and not by sight when somethings revealed we have to determine whether it is are sight or its been reveald to us spititualy (hence the carnal side of things or the spiritual side of things) the only thing that needs to change in my opinion is Jews need to live among gentiles and gentiles need to live among Jews, then we will have a new Jerusalem (new heaven new earth) rev 21) And also this befor there can be new jeruselem this needs to happen
Who is the wolf ? (and no its not Satan) spiritually in human form ? who is this spiritualy in human form ? (unbelievers that dont believe and dont behave like Jesus did.
who is lamb the lamb are the exact opposite of this.
The goat spiritually who is the Goat ? in human spiritual form, look to (mathew 25)
The calf spiritualy who is calf ? in human spiritual form. ?
have a happy sunday God bless
hi all post 1406 after further study isiah 65:17-25 explains further about isiah 11 i welcome anyone who would like to join in with a study post 1406
[h=3]Isaiah 65:17-25[/h]New International Version (NIV)
[h=3]New Heavens and a New Earth[/h][SUP]17 [/SUP]“See, I will create
new heavens and a new earth.
The former things will not be remembered,
nor will they come to mind.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]But be glad and rejoice forever
in what I will create,
for I will create Jerusalem to be a delight
and its people a joy.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]I will rejoice over Jerusalem
and take delight in my people;
the sound of weeping and of crying
will be heard in it no more.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]“Never again will there be in it
an infant who lives but a few days,
or an old man who does not live out his years;
the one who dies at a hundred
will be thought a mere child;
the one who fails to reach[SUP][a][/SUP] a hundred
will be considered accursed.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]They will build houses and dwell in them;
they will plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]No longer will they build houses and others live in them,
or plant and others eat.
For as the days of a tree,
so will be the days of my people;
my chosen ones will long enjoy
the work of their hands.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]They will not labor in vain,
nor will they bear children doomed to misfortune;
for they will be a people blessed by the Lord,
they and their descendants with them.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Before they call I will answer;
while they are still speaking I will hear.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]The wolf and the lamb will feed together,
and the lion will eat straw like the ox,
and dust will be the serpent’s food.
They will neither harm nor destroy
on all my holy mountain,”
says the Lord.
[h=3]Isaiah 65:17-25[/h]New International Version (NIV)
[h=3]New Heavens and a New Earth[/h][SUP]17 [/SUP]“See, I will create
new heavens and a new earth.
The former things will not be remembered,
nor will they come to mind.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]But be glad and rejoice forever
in what I will create,
for I will create Jerusalem to be a delight
and its people a joy.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]I will rejoice over Jerusalem
and take delight in my people;
the sound of weeping and of crying
will be heard in it no more.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]“Never again will there be in it
an infant who lives but a few days,
or an old man who does not live out his years;
the one who dies at a hundred
will be thought a mere child;
the one who fails to reach[SUP][a][/SUP] a hundred
will be considered accursed.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]They will build houses and dwell in them;
they will plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]No longer will they build houses and others live in them,
or plant and others eat.
For as the days of a tree,
so will be the days of my people;
my chosen ones will long enjoy
the work of their hands.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]They will not labor in vain,
nor will they bear children doomed to misfortune;
for they will be a people blessed by the Lord,
they and their descendants with them.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Before they call I will answer;
while they are still speaking I will hear.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]The wolf and the lamb will feed together,
and the lion will eat straw like the ox,
and dust will be the serpent’s food.
They will neither harm nor destroy
on all my holy mountain,”
says the Lord.
H
Zinzerio, You obviously are all wet, One cannot interpret prophecy in /of the old testament by the old T. . The old is all shadows and is no help in understanding itself. shadows do not give light on shadows. The LIGHT of the New Testament give LIGHT on the old shadows. of the old t. . ( I am using small letters, not to disrespect the old but to show the SUPERIORITY of the NEW TESTAMENT.) This is the fact of life with GOD, The NEW is what we go by, not the old. GOD ,the UNCHANGEABLE has CHANGED HIS law., His final WORD, is the NEW TESTAMENT. This is where you and Redtent go wrong. Do not get you info. from spiritual guides from/of the Devil. Love to all, Hoffco
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Zinzerio, the passage of Isa. 65 is totally confusing. As is common in the OLD T. , God introduces a new topic, BUT than talks on another topic. God speaks of the new earth, BUT, then talks of the old earth and the millennial reign of Christ on the old earth, where death will still occur, it talks of "death" ; there is no more death on the NEW EARTH, Therefore we need to disregard this passage as any help at all to understanding the prophecy of the new earth; The CLEAR teaching on the NEW Heavens and the NEW earth is given in the book of Revelation, the N.T. is superior to the old t.. Love to all, Hoffco
It has always been my understanding that the Old Testament contains all that is made simpler in reading the New Testament providing the reader is not hindered by the veil of Moses. The writings before our Savior came spoke of Him, that is the Prophets and Moses.
Obviously those who have not come to Christ, yet read the Old Testament cannot see what is revealed freely in the New Testament, but I know from the infilling of the Holy Spirit that all we need know can be revealed from the Old Testament.
Keep in mind the entire book called the Old Testament is not devoted to any particular testament or witness. The New Testament is primarily the witness of our Savior, Jesus, having come and fulfilled what was written of Him throughout what is called the Old Testament. Many of our spiritual forefathers knew grace, David, Samuel, Elijah, Elisha, Noah, Job, Daniel, and so many more.
You folks are all correct in part, as I believe I am also. No single man, no flesh, has a complete understanding of all of the Word, but all who are saved do know the Gospel of Yeshua, Jesus, amen.
Obviously those who have not come to Christ, yet read the Old Testament cannot see what is revealed freely in the New Testament, but I know from the infilling of the Holy Spirit that all we need know can be revealed from the Old Testament.
Keep in mind the entire book called the Old Testament is not devoted to any particular testament or witness. The New Testament is primarily the witness of our Savior, Jesus, having come and fulfilled what was written of Him throughout what is called the Old Testament. Many of our spiritual forefathers knew grace, David, Samuel, Elijah, Elisha, Noah, Job, Daniel, and so many more.
You folks are all correct in part, as I believe I am also. No single man, no flesh, has a complete understanding of all of the Word, but all who are saved do know the Gospel of Yeshua, Jesus, amen.
The Goats are the ones who dont help Gods children, The Goats are the one who think there God and preach there own Doctrin and teach in error for as to gain favour for them selfs from there other buddies who also teach in error, two wrongs can not make a right, The goats are the ones who stoor riches for them selves and dont share back thees are Goats unquestionably the Goats are here