But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away 2Pet.3:10, and you claim,
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I'm not contradicting anything. This is your belief. You're saying the day of the Lord, which comes like a thief in the night, is not the return of Jesus, but comes 1000 years after Jesus's return. I disagree.
Peter's wording
"IN WHICH" refers to
a long spans of time (involving a great many things that will transpire WITHIN that long spans of time). Here's some posts I made which touch on that "time period" [a few different posts gathered here, but see especially at the bottom section about 2Pet3:10-12]:
[quoting from my previous posts]
1 Corinthians 15:23-28 (note especially
the bold I'm pointing out) -
23 But every man
in his own order: Christ the firstfruits;
afterward they that are Christ's
at his coming. [<---note how far apart, time-wise, these two listed items take place]
24
Then [G1534 - eita ] cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
The word "G1534 -
eita - THEN" is a
SEQUENCE word "
with no time-element attached" to it (
unlike another Greek word translated "then" which is "G5119 -
tote" like is used in 2Th2:8 and other places). THIS word for "THEN" (G1534) is only with regard to
"SEQUENCE"... and if you'll notice the THREE items LISTED here START with Jesus' own Resurrection some 2000 YEARS [+] before the NEXT LISTED item. So it is
no problem at all for the THIRD LISTED item to be speaking of something that SEQUENTIALLY takes place 1000 years
after the second listed item! (Note: the word "
comes [cometh]" is
not in the text. The text just reads
"THEN [G1534] the end"... and it is
NOT "THEN
IMMEDIATELY the end," as the Amill-teaching [and others]
skews it to mean!
)
[and]
The Thessalonians were being [wrongly] convinced that "the Day of the Lord
IS PRESENT"... THAT was what was on their distraught minds, that "the Day of the Lord
IS PRESENT"
--not that it was "near / approaching," but "IS PRESENT"
--not Jesus Himself, but "the Day of the Lord" (a time period involving JUDGMENTS and VERY NEGATIVE things, just like they were already ENDURING... so this idea that it "IS PRESENT" was PERFECTLY *REASONABLE* to them... they were not dippy people)
--not that His Kingdom had arrived (SOMEwhere... over there, somewhere. No, they well knew of Jesus' teachings on that, Paul wasn't neglecting to tell them such truths)
--not that "a singular 24-hr day" had arrived
--and NOT [was on their distraught minds] anything about the "Caught Up/Away" Truth (absolutely no one had disappeared, and they were under NO SUCH DELUSION that that had taken place--the CONTEXT of their "thinking" was what Paul SAID, here, and that was, essentially, "don't let anyone convince you that THE DAY OF THE LORD [an EARTHLY TIME PERIOD involving JUDGMENTS, etc]
IS PRESENT. [because] ONE THING must happen *FIRST*..." [according to the text here]. This is Paul's corrective to them [
and this SEQUENCE is REPEATED 3x in this chpt 2, as well as being the SAME SEQUENCE as was shown in 1Th4-5!] And in verse 15 [at the other end of this entire context] says, basically, "believe what WE taught you INSTEAD!" And Paul had already acknowledged that they understood WHAT "the DOTL" involved and that [they knew perfectly that] it "so cometh as a thief IN THE NIGHT" in his previous letter to them, 5:2-3;
--In 2Th2:3-9a, he is elaborating on this and saying that "the DOTL [time period]" won't be present [to unfold upon the earth] until ONE THING happens *FIRST* ... *AND* the man of sin BE REVEALED [and that happens at the START of the 7-yr trib, in the "
whose COMING/ARRIVAL/ADVENT/PRESENCE/parousia" of the man of sin "IN HIS TIME" parallels Daniel 9:27[26]'s "
prince THAT SHALL COME"... "for ONE WEEK [7 yrs]" at the BEGINNING of it [2Th2:3-9a has the SAME "BEGINNING, MIDDLE, END" that Dan9:27a/b/c does!], aka the INITIAL "birth PANG [SINGULAR; 1Th5:2-3; Matt24:4/Mk13:5 - "G5100 -
tis -
'A CERTAIN ONE'," when Jesus will "STAND to JUDGE" at the START of the 7-yrs/70th-Wk when HE HIMSELF [in Heaven] will open the FIRST SEAL [aka the INITIAL "birth PANG [SINGULAR]" unfolding
upon the earth)
So "the DOTL [time period]" will be present at the same time that "the man of sin" is present to DO ALL he is slated TO DO (over the course of the ENTIRE 7-yr period: [its ARRIVAL at] its BEGINNING, its MIDDLE, its END... ALL of that).
[and this correlates precisely with]
"... note additionally the
TWO "PUNISH" words (
in Isaiah 24:21-22[23]) which are SEPARATED by "and after many days" (meaning, that "punish" not only occurs at His Second Coming
to the earth BUT ALSO the
later GWTj [the
TWO "punish" words in Isa24:21-22(23)]) and correlating [
time-wise]
with that of Revelation 19:19,21/16:14-16/20:5 at the time (context/setting) of His Second Coming to the earth. Meaning, there is still much "time" that will transpire on the earth following His Second Coming
to the earth. And this is what the
"IN THAT DAY" of Zechariah 14 shows [the MK time period].
So STARTING way back at the beginning of trib [the paragraphs above],
and continuing [minus the man of sin after Christ's 2nd Coming to the earth] clear throughout the entire MK age. THAT is what the
"IN WHICH" refers to in
2Pet3:10-12 [
encompassing the entire span of time referred to (the DOTL time period)]
[end quoting]