Amillennialists...Here's a chance to state your case.

[garee]

Well either the Olivet Discourse holds as a unit or it does not .... now some argue that Jesus went from the "this generation" and at some point begins to speak to the far future....however I do not see it and the person refused to tell me

The generations as two different kinds are in respect to Christ, the born again generation of faith or #2 the generation of Adam the evil generation natural unconverted that walks by sight (no faith)

Matthew 23:35-36 King James Version (KJV) That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. (The evil generation that seeks after signs as wonderment. )

Matthew 24:33-35 King James Version (KJV) So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.Verily I say unto you, This generation (The evil generation that seeks after signs as wonderment. )shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

 

[azamzimtoti]

It still makes no sense to begin at any point in that time frame. In Daniel 12 the question is ask "how long..." and the answer is given as "a time,times,and a half" but it is in aspect to the time frame of Daniel 12(date written) not from 3.5 years before ad70. https://biblehub.com/interlinear/daniel/12.htm

Of course it makes sense.

(Dan 12:1 “At that time Michael shall stand up, The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people; And there shall be a time of trouble, Such as never was since there was a nation, Even to that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered, every one who is found written in the book. )

The (your) people that were delivered were the 1st century Jewish Christians. "The book" is a Jewish motif.

When Jerusalem was surrounded with armies they would be redeemed/delivered as per Daniel 12:1:

(Luke 21:20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near." )

(Luke 21:28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.” )

Luke 21: 32 “Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place." )

So what we have is deliverance for the Jewish believers from the wrath that came on unbelieving Israel as per John/Elijah.

(Mat 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, “Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? )

(Mat 3:10 “And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.)

The axe fell in 66 AD.

 

[garee]

Of course it makes sense.

(Dan 12:1 “At that time Michael shall stand up, The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people; And there shall be a time of trouble, Such as never was since there was a nation, Even to that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered, every one who is found written in the book. )

The (your) people that were delivered were the 1st century Jewish Christians. "The book" is a Jewish motif.

When Jerusalem was surrounded with armies they would be redeemed/delivered as per Daniel 12:1:

(Luke 21:20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near." )

(Luke 21:28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.” )

Luke 21: 32 “Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place." )

So what we have is deliverance for the Jewish believers from the wrath that came on unbelieving Israel as per John/Elijah.

(Mat 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, “Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? )

(Mat 3:10 “And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.)

The axe fell in 66 AD.

Danaiel 12 is speaking to the end of the time, the last day, the day of the Lord, that day of the thief in the night, the last time . The day believers receive their new incorruptible bodies and in the same twinkling of the eye the second death will be thrown into the lake of fire. Never to rise to new spirit life forever more.

John 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 11:24Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.


'Simultaneous twinkle of the eye

 

[iamsoandso]

Of course it makes sense.

(Dan 12:1 “At that time Michael shall stand up, The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people; And there shall be a time of trouble, Such as never was since there was a nation, Even to that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered, every one who is found written in the book. )

The (your) people that were delivered were the 1st century Jewish Christians. "The book" is a Jewish motif.

When Jerusalem was surrounded with armies they would be redeemed/delivered as per Daniel 12:1:

(Luke 21:20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near." )

(Luke 21:28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.” )

Luke 21: 32 “Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place." )

So what we have is deliverance for the Jewish believers from the wrath that came on unbelieving Israel as per John/Elijah.
3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, “Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? )

(Mat 3:10 “And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.)

The axe fell in 66 AD.

Then you consider Michael to be Jesus Christ?

 

[iamsoandso]

Danaiel 12 is speaking to the end of the time, the last day, the day of the Lord, that day of the thief in the night, the last time . The day believers receive their new incorruptible bodies and in the same twinkling of the eye the second death will be thrown into the lake of fire. Never to rise to new spirit life forever more.

John 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 11:24Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.


'Simultaneous twinkle of the eye

And that would be three and a half ages afterwards...

 

[cv5]

Of course it makes sense.

(Dan 12:1 “At that time Michael shall stand up, The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people; And there shall be a time of trouble, Such as never was since there was a nation, Even to that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered, every one who is found written in the book. )

The (your) people that were delivered were the 1st century Jewish Christians. "The book" is a Jewish motif.

When Jerusalem was surrounded with armies they would be redeemed/delivered as per Daniel 12:1:

(Luke 21:20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near." )

(Luke 21:28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.” )

Luke 21: 32 “Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place." )

So what we have is deliverance for the Jewish believers from the wrath that came on unbelieving Israel as per John/Elijah.

(Mat 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, “Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? )

(Mat 3:10 “And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.)

The axe fell in 66 AD.

Impossible. Where is the Redemption? Where is the heart of flesh and perfect obedience? Where is the recognition of their God and Savior Jesus Christ?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Mr. Crossnote.... change of schedule the Cool Paw Cat discourse on Daniel 12 will need to wait another day Toronto Raptors play tonight and that takes precedence....I am sure you understand.

They won!! Congrats!!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I think you are mixing and matching scriptures EG.

No, I am just tryign to make scripture be like a picture, which is unified, Not a blob, which is unified and chaotic and makes no sense.

Israel after the flesh (who are said to have been guilty of the innocent blood of the prophets) and the Jewish remnant (Israel of the promise) who were told to flee are two different "entities".

(Rev 12:17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. )

Israel after the flesh upon whom the wrath of God fell did not "have the testimony of Jesus Christ "

(Gal 4:29 But, as he who was born according to the flesh then persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, even so it is now. )

(Gal 4:30 Nevertheless what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the bondwoman and her son, for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.”

Look

He went after the woman (isreal) and went after her offspring (who keep the commands, this is the saved people. israel is still in sin at this time) Yet ISRAEL is PROTECTED.
Nice try..

Prophesy states the END result of this time which will PUT an END to the time of the gentile. ISREAL will repent. It is this time which brings israel to its knees, where like so many PEOPLE they have no choice, but to repent and call out to God, or die.

 

[UnderGrace]

They won!! Congrats!!

Well all I did was cheer .... LOL..... but .... What a fun Game!!

I am happy for Kyle Lowry he deserves this he has worked very hard for it and they do have such good sportsmanship as a team.

We The North

 

[azamzimtoti]

Then you consider Michael to be Jesus Christ?

Some commenters think so Mr Sas.

Look at the context of Michael in John's Revelation:

(Rev 12:7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, )

(Rev 12:8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. )

(Rev 12:9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.)

(Rev 12:10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. )

(Rev 12:11 “And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.)

Couple of points here for you to consider in regards to the above:

Is the dragon still in heaven and not yet cast out?

Has the salvation and the power of His Christ come or are we waiting for this?

All the above in Rev has a 1st century context, we know that Christ said his apostles and disciples would be persecuted and some killed "and they did not love their lives to the death" see Rev 2:10, Rev 6:11 and this corresponds with what Jesus stated:

(Mat 23:34 “Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city )

I could expand on this, I'm short on time today but I will remind you what John himself said when bracketing his work at the beginning and end with this:

(Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must shortly take place . . . )

(Rev 1:3 Blessed is he who reads . . . . for the time is near. )

(Rev 22:10 And he said to me, “Do not seal the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand. )

Daniel was told "to seal" the book because the time for fulfillment was hundreds of years in his future.

John was told "do not seal", therefore the events were at hand when he wrote, not 2000 years and counting.

(Dan 12:4 But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end . . . )

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Some commenters think so Mr Sas.

Do you?

Look at the context of Michael in John's Revelation:

(Rev 12:7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, )

(Rev 12:8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. )

(Rev 12:9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.)

(Rev 12:10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. )

(Rev 12:11 “And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.)

Couple of points here for you to consider in regards to the above:

Is the dragon still in heaven and not yet cast out?

Yes, He is still in the presence of God accusing the saints.

Has the salvation and the power of His Christ come or are we waiting for this?

Yes, But does not fit your point.

All the above in Rev has a 1st century context, we know that Christ said his apostles and disciples would be persecuted and some killed "and they did not love their lives to the death" see Rev 2:10, Rev 6:11 and this corresponds with what Jesus stated:

(Mat 23:34 “Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city )

I could expand on this, I'm short on time today but I will remind you what John himself said when bracketing his work at the beginning and end with this:

(Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must shortly take place . . . )

(Rev 1:3 Blessed is he who reads . . . . for the time is near. )

(Rev 22:10 And he said to me, “Do not seal the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand. )

Daniel was told "to seal" the book because the time for fulfillment was hundreds of years in his future.

John was told "do not seal", therefore the events were at hand when he wrote, not 2000 years and counting.

(Dan 12:4 But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end . . . )

In rev 1: 1 the word translated shortly in the greek actually means swiftly or quickly.

If you look at the events, They all occure, and swiftly comes to an end, with the return of Christ ONCE THEY START.

You also have to take revelation and fit them in with daniel. Because John is just taking Daniel’s prophesies and expanding them even more as more is revealed to him.

 

[iamsoandso]

Some commenters think so Mr Sas.

Look at the context of Michael in John's Revelation:

(Rev 12:7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, )

(Rev 12:8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. )

(Rev 12:9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.)

(Rev 12:10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. )

(Rev 12:11 “And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.)

Couple of points here for you to consider in regards to the above:

Is the dragon still in heaven and not yet cast out?

Has the salvation and the power of His Christ come or are we waiting for this?

All the above in Rev has a 1st century context, we know that Christ said his apostles and disciples would be persecuted and some killed "and they did not love their lives to the death" see Rev 2:10, Rev 6:11 and this corresponds with what Jesus stated:

(Mat 23:34 “Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city )

I could expand on this, I'm short on time today but I will remind you what John himself said when bracketing his work at the beginning and end with this:

(Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must shortly take place . . . )

(Rev 1:3 Blessed is he who reads . . . . for the time is near. )

(Rev 22:10 And he said to me, “Do not seal the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand. )

Daniel was told "to seal" the book because the time for fulfillment was hundreds of years in his future.

John was told "do not seal", therefore the events were at hand when he wrote, not 2000 years and counting.

(Dan 12:4 But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end . . . )

lol, Some commentators that are JW,SDA ect. do see Jesus and Michael as the same I was wondering about you...

I heard the quickly,soon parts many times you do realize if you look at Isaiah,Joel ect. in the old testament that the Day of the Lord was spoken of by God as "quickly", "soon", "at hand" "nigh" from about 700bce onward right? If not I would suggest you do a word search on those and you will see that God has spoken in that manner as if soon,near,at hand ect. to him was as a blink of a eye.

So I wouldn't build an theology based on soon,near at hand without looking to see if he used the same terminology in some of the OT books also. Now I'm saying this because I know God said the day of the lord is at hand,near, and will not delay ect. 6-7 hundred years before Jesus was born so following your reasoning the day of the Lord could be argued to have taken place back then.

P.S. Zephaniah 1:14-18,,,Ezekiel 30:3-4,,,Joel 1:15,,Joel 2:1-2,,,Obadiah 1:15-16,,,Isaiah 13:6-9,,,Joel 3:13-14,,, all use the same near,soon,at hand type wording...

 

[azamzimtoti]

In rev 1: 1 the word translated shortly in the greek actually means swiftly or quickly.

If you look at the events, They all occure, and swiftly comes to an end, with the return of Christ ONCE THEY START.

No, the Greek does not give any indication that the events are delayed for 2000 years and then happen at break neck speed.

John uses tachos:

G5034 tachos takh'-os

from the same as G5036;

a brief space (of time), i.e. (with G1722 prefixed) in haste.

KJV: + quickly, + shortly, + speedily.
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Also based on G5036 is G5035

G5035 tachu takh-oo'

neuter singular of G5036 (as adverb);

shortly, i.e. without delay, soon, or (by surprise) suddenly, or (by implication, of ease) readily.

KJV: lightly, quickly.
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Looking at verses using G5034 we can be assured that "without delay" or "a brief space" of time is intended:

(Acts 12:7 Now behold, an angel of the Lord stood by him, and a light shone in the prison; and he struck Peter on the side and raised him up, saying, “Arise quickly!” And his chains fell off his hands.)

How can it be said that Peter was to get moving "quickly" when he got around to it? He was to get moving right away (in a very "brief space of time".)

Acts 22:18 “and saw Him saying to me, ‘Make haste and get out of Jerusalem quickly, for they will not receive your testimony concerning Me. )

Was Paul supposed to dally around looking for a turbo charged donkey that could execute a quick escape?

(Acts 25:4 But Festus answered that Paul should be kept at Caesarea, and that he himself was going there shortly. )

So was Festus going to hang around, check out a few Roman baths then head off quickly?

(Acts 16:20 And the God of peace will crush Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.)

Were the Romans expecting that when God around finally to bruising satan that it would happen quickly?

When John stated that the time is at hand and that the things would happen shortly the only honest thing to do is accept the events would happen in "a brief space" of time after he wrote them and ditch a theology that negates his statements.

 

[azamzimtoti]

The generations as two different kinds are in respect to Christ, the born again generation of faith or #2 the generation of Adam the evil generation natural unconverted that walks by sight (no faith)

No, there aren't two different kinds of generations - the Greek genea deals with a generation in time:

(Mat 1:17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations, from David until the captivity in Babylon are fourteen generations, and from the captivity in Babylon until the Christ are fourteen generations. )

(Luke 1:48 For He has regarded the lowly state of His maidservant; For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed. )

(Col 1:26 that is, the mystery which has been hidden from the past ages and generations, but has now been manifested to His saints )


G1074 genea ghen-eh-ah'

from (a presumed derivative of) G1085;

a generation; by implication, an age (the period or the persons).

KJV: age, generation, nation, time.

 

[garee]

No, there aren't two different kinds of generations - the Greek genea deals with a generation in time:

(Mat 1:17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations, from David until the captivity in Babylon are fourteen generations, and from the captivity in Babylon until the Christ are fourteen generations. )

(Luke 1:48 For He has regarded the lowly state of His maidservant; For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed. )

(Col 1:26 that is, the mystery which has been hidden from the past ages and generations, but has now been manifested to His saints )


G1074 genea ghen-eh-ah'

from (a presumed derivative of) G1085;

a generation; by implication, an age (the period or the persons).

KJV: age, generation, nation, time.

Those kind of generations of men (14:1) make up the "one" new generation of Christ" the spiritual seed Christ... not generations of men .The new creature. It was the end of the use of the fleshly genealogy mixed with faith.

The generation that will not pass away until all things are fulfilled is the generation of man the generation of evil The generation of Adam

Matthew 1 King James Version (KJV) 1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

(Luke 1:48 For He has regarded the lowly state of His maidservant; For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed. )

generations = of all nations

 

[azamzimtoti]

Those kind of generations of men (14:1) make up the "one" new generation of Christ" the spiritual seed Christ... not generations of men .The new creature. It was the end of the use of the fleshly genealogy mixed with faith.

The generation that will not pass away until all things are fulfilled is the generation of man the generation of evil The generation of Adam

Matthew 1 King James Version (KJV) 1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

(Luke 1:48 For He has regarded the lowly state of His maidservant; For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed. )

generations = of all nations

Maybe they don't understand Greek on the planet you are from

 

[garee]

Maybe they don't understand Greek on the planet you are from

Beam me up Scotty or Seven of Nine. LOL.

Maybe they do not know the difference between the word generation (single) and generations (multiple) . or seed singular and seeds many?

Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Matthew 1:1 King James Version (KJV) The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

The book of the generation of the lamb of God slain from the foundation of the world

Matthew 1:17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations

42 = the generation of the seed..of Christ . the bride of Christ

 

[eternally-gratefull]

No, the Greek does not give any indication that the events are delayed for 2000 years and then happen at break neck speed.

No, But the greek does mean what I showed. Whether you agree or not does nto matter

And SCRIPTURE shows a gap (of unknown length) between the first and second comming of Christ. Between the time of the destruction of the city and the abomination which makes desolate. It even speaks of two different roman beasts or prts of the statue (some of which rome in Christ day NEVER fulfilled)

Scripture must be taken as a whole. ot picked apart.

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

No, But the greek does mean what I showed. Whether you agree or not does nto matter

[…]

Scripture must be taken as a whole. ot picked apart.

Correct.

The samples azamzimtoti supplied, of the noun form of this word (that is also used in Rev1:1, the word under discussion), must each be viewed within their own contexts, considering the surrounding clues which inform just what the "IN QUICKNESS [NOUN]," or you could say, "WITH SPEED [NOUN]," refers to in any given passage. The example he gave showed that these were to take place in the immediate time frame then present (based on the surrounding words, not on the actual word itself).

So, in Rev1:1, we see by the phrase just before it, that the thing that must be "IN QUICKNESS [NOUN]" is the same thing that 4:1 and 1:19c refer to, and that is the "future" aspects of the Book, "things which must come to pass" [one could say, the things prophesied to come to pass, or things which will certainly come to pass [because prophesied to do so!]), as well as the "to SHEW UNTO His servants" phrase, which "SHEW" word is also found in 4:1... and I believe the v.1 "to shew unto HIS SERVANTS..." includes the "servants of our God" in Rev7:3 (the 144,000).

This 1:1/4:1/1:19c/7:3 I believe correlates perfectly with how Matt22:7 speaks of the 70ad events [Lk21:23,20] needing to take place before the Matt22:8's "THEN SAITH HE to his servants" part can happen [i.e. the LATER 95ad "Revelation" given to John]. This necessarily must have been "said" AFTER the 70ad events of v.7 (this also agrees with how the Olivet Discourse shows the 70ad events [Lk21:12-24] must take place "BEFORE ALL [the beginning of birth pangs (8-11)]" just as verse 12 says.

Words ending in "LY" (and the word "soon") are ADVERBS, not NOUNS as is the word in Rev1:1.

The surrounding words (when compared with other verses in the general area of the first part of the Book) show us that it's not talking about the "which ARE [now]" things of the Book, but the things which come after the "WHICH ARE" section

(i.e. the "FUTURE" aspects of the Book, which happen to END with His Second Coming to the earth, Rev19, and which SEALS [Rev5] correlate with "the beginning of birth PANGS [PLURAL]" which Jesus spoke of [Olivet Discourse], and which INITIAL "birth PANG [SINGULAR]" of THAT, Paul spoke of in 1Th5:2-3/2Th2:2-3, and which involves the "presence/parousia" of the man of sin [his "be revealed" / "whose coming" aspect at the BEGINNING of the 7 yrs/70th Wk--not its MIDDLE, nor its END, JUST LIKE Dan9:27a (in its THREE parts--BEGINNING, MIDDLE, END of the 7 yrs--both Dan9:27[26] AND 2Th2 cover ALL SEVEN YEARS)])

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

EDIT to add: "both Dan9:27[26] AND 2Th2 cover ALL SEVEN YEARS--which I believe is the correlation of the "IN QUICKNESS [NOUN]" reference in Rev1:1 [/22:6]--the "IN QUICKNESS [NOUN]" period of time that ENDS with His Second Coming to the earth, Rev19 [so 1:1/1:19c/4:1 TO Rev19--and when one examines that section carefully, one can make out time markers that show exactly that (a 7-yr/2520-d period of time)])