Animals/Pets in Heaven

[Angel371]

could you tell your pastor to give you the scripture about animals being in heaven because I have learned the hard way if they cant prove it with the Word of God dont listen to it it is the devil speaking on his own resourses hope this blesses you
the only thing we should believe is the Word of God it cant lie it is for correction

 

[oyster67]

Toys? Worshipping God can take many different forms. We can create, build, hike, invent, swim, mountain-climb etc. in worship of God. Worship isn't relegated to prayer and singing.

Still reading that Heaven book by Randy Alcorn. Thanks for putting me onto it.

 

[Tintin]

Still reading that Heaven book by Randy Alcorn. Thanks for putting me onto it.

No worries, brother! It's so good, isn't it? Not a difficult read, but certainly comprehensive.

 

[VioletReigns]

Your example from 2 Sam 12.23 is the very same as that found in Gen 37.35....and refers to joining his son in the grave!



God is the God of all of us....that does not mean that we will see our loved ones again in Heaven.

Being reunited with earthly loved ones is NOT what Heaven is about.

Being with God is what Heaven is about.

All else means absolutely nothing.








And we will worship God forever...Amen.

I get your drift, Bowman about God being all there is. But your belief that we won't see each other in heaven is just your perception. You don't KNOW that what you believe is true. You're interpreting. Myself, I don't believe David would stop mourning because he was going to join his son 6 feet under. I believe in my spirit and heart that David quit mourning knowing he'd see his son face to face in glory. That's my perception.

We would be like absolute fools to say we can positively state what's on the other side. We won't KNOW until we get there... that is, unless God happens to fall on either of us in His weight of glory and reveal it to us before we get there. \/

 

[VioletReigns]

Also, all the hosts of heaven, the hosts of angels, see each other face to face. and Jesus said we will be like angels, in fact we will be higher than the angels. And John in Revelation spoke of seeing people and angels.

 

[Magenta]

However, as it is written:
“What no eye has seen,
what no ear has heard,
and what no human mind has conceived”—
the things God has prepared for those who love Him—

 

[Josefnospam]

pets are here to enjoy and thank God for but you do err when you speak of things in heaven. I like Motorcycles but I am pretty sure I wont ride one once there. We will be to busy praising and worshiping God than to tend to anything from this earth.

 

[Tintin]

However, as it is written:
“What no eye has seen,
what no ear has heard,
and what no human mind has conceived”—
the things God has prepared for those who love Him—

But He has given us hints and glimpses into the spiritual realm in His revealed word, the Bible.

 

[Agricola]

Animals do not sin they are innocent, I believe they do go to heaven.

Animals have no spirit, we have spirit soul and body. If animals did get new bodies, then chickens would need a numerous planets just to accommodate them all. Do you realise that billions of chickens are killed each year around the world? Factor in all the other animals killed for food along with the wild animals that have died and its clear we are not going be sharing the new earth with that lot!

 

[Bowman]

I get your drift, Bowman about God being all there is. But your belief that we won't see each other in heaven is just your perception. You don't KNOW that what you believe is true. You're interpreting. Myself, I don't believe David would stop mourning because he was going to join his son 6 feet under. I believe in my spirit and heart that David quit mourning knowing he'd see his son face to face in glory. That's my perception.

We would be like absolute fools to say we can positively state what's on the other side. We won't KNOW until we get there... that is, unless God happens to fall on either of us in His weight of glory and reveal it to us before we get there. \/

Will we see loved ones in Heaven?

Only if they are saved....and even then, will we care?

Scripture tells us that we will not remember this life, nor will it ever come to mind....thus, how could it possibly matter in the first place...?

We think that it matters to be with loved ones after death because that it all we can comprehend.....we cannot comprehend being in the presence of an infinite being in which we will forever be in awe, for all eternity.


This should bring you comfort...



For, behold, I create new heavens and new earth. And the former things shall not be recalled, and they shall not go up on the heart. However, be glad and rejoice forever in what I create. For, behold, I create in Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy. And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in My people. And the voice of weeping and the voice of crying shall no longer be heard in her. There shall not still be an infant of days, or an old man that has not filled his days. For the youth shall die the son of a hundred years, but the sinner the son of a hundred years shall be accursed. And they shall build houses and live in them; and they shall plant vineyards and eat their fruit. They shall not build, and another live in them; they shall not plant, and another eat. For like the days of the tree are the days of My people; and My elect shall grow old to the work of their hands. They shall not labor in vain, nor bring forth for terror. For they are the seed of the beloved ones of Jehovah, and their offspring with them. And it will be, before they call, I will answer. While they are speaking, then I will hear. Isa 65.17 - 24

 

[VioletReigns]

Will we see loved ones in Heaven?

Only if they are saved....and even then, will we care?

Scripture tells us that we will not remember this life, nor will it ever come to mind....thus, how could it possibly matter in the first place...?

We think that it matters to be with loved ones after death because that it all we can comprehend.....we cannot comprehend being in the presence of an infinite being in which we will forever be in awe, for all eternity.


This should bring you comfort...



For, behold, I create new heavens and new earth. And the former things shall not be recalled, and they shall not go up on the heart. However, be glad and rejoice forever in what I create. For, behold, I create in Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy. And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in My people. And the voice of weeping and the voice of crying shall no longer be heard in her. There shall not still be an infant of days, or an old man that has not filled his days. For the youth shall die the son of a hundred years, but the sinner the son of a hundred years shall be accursed. And they shall build houses and live in them; and they shall plant vineyards and eat their fruit. They shall not build, and another live in them; they shall not plant, and another eat. For like the days of the tree are the days of My people; and My elect shall grow old to the work of their hands. They shall not labor in vain, nor bring forth for terror. For they are the seed of the beloved ones of Jehovah, and their offspring with them. And it will be, before they call, I will answer. While they are speaking, then I will hear. Isa 65.17 - 24

Hey brother Bowman, I got to thinking today about how we mortals desire to be identified, accepted, loved, and approved of by each other. And I think I understand where you're coming from when you say it shouldn't really matter because God meets all of those needs completely. Nevertheless, God tells us to love one another on this earth and to treat each other the way we ourselves want to be treated.

Pondering it further, I can see more clearly what Jesus meant when He said, "If you do it unto the least of these My brethren, you've done it to Me." If we look at one another, not on the outward, but as a spiritual people whom God has created for His own pleasure, holy vessels whom His Spirit dwells in, we wouldn't be so obsessed with receiving from one another. We'd be free just to be God's holy vessels that He uses to pour out His love. We would be free just knowing Christ Jesus is glorifying Himself in us and drawing all men to Him.

As for heaven, I think if we could grasp the reality that we are God's holy vessels right NOW, we'd also realize that there will be no death, as Jesus said. The Lord said we already passed from death to life though Him. Perhaps we're blind to think that heaven is another place. Maybe heaven is the reality that we have RIGHT NOW in Jesus Christ. And once these bodies are worn out, that reality of Life in Christ won't be hindered by our "looking through a dark glass", as we struggle with now.

Could it be that when God said His name was "I Am" (Omnipresent) that His Eternal Presence is ours right now?

Just wondering.........

 

[RickyZ]

could you tell your pastor to give you the scripture about animals being in heaven because I have learned the hard way if they cant prove it with the Word of God dont listen to it it is the devil speaking on his own resourses hope this blesses you
the only thing we should believe is the Word of God it cant lie it is for correction

Scriptures have been given here. Having yet someone else tell you something you've already heard isn't going to help.

pets are here to enjoy and thank God for but you do err when you speak of things in heaven. I like Motorcycles but I am pretty sure I wont ride one once there. We will be to busy praising and worshiping God than to tend to anything from this earth.

I don't see harps and halos anywhere in the Bible. When I consider that everything we think we know about our portion of creation is only but a tenth of what's really out there, I can't help but think of what it's going to be like to stand at the dawn of a new creation knowing we'll have eternity to explore it with Him unimpeded. There's nations, there's cities, there's commerce and people moving about - Christ came to restore our little piece of exile to the bigger garden. I don't see any reason not to expect even more activity, not less.

 

[Bowman]

Hey brother Bowman, I got to thinking today about how we mortals desire to be identified, accepted, loved, and approved of by each other. And I think I understand where you're coming from when you say it shouldn't really matter because God meets all of those needs completely. Nevertheless, God tells us to love one another on this earth and to treat each other the way we ourselves want to be treated.

Pondering it further, I can see more clearly what Jesus meant when He said, "If you do it unto the least of these My brethren, you've done it to Me." If we look at one another, not on the outward, but as a spiritual people whom God has created for His own pleasure, holy vessels whom His Spirit dwells in, we wouldn't be so obsessed with receiving from one another. We'd be free just to be God's holy vessels that He uses to pour out His love. We would be free just knowing Christ Jesus is glorifying Himself in us and drawing all men to Him.

As for heaven, I think if we could grasp the reality that we are God's holy vessels right NOW, we'd also realize that there will be no death, as Jesus said. The Lord said we already passed from death to life though Him. Perhaps we're blind to think that heaven is another place. Maybe heaven is the reality that we have RIGHT NOW in Jesus Christ. And once these bodies are worn out, that reality of Life in Christ won't be hindered by our "looking through a dark glass", as we struggle with now.

Could it be that when God said His name was "I Am" (Omnipresent) that His Eternal Presence is ours right now?

Just wondering.........

Great thoughts...

Seems, though, that Heaven is another dimension out of the present one that we can experience, as the Holy Bible indicates that God will create one last time and that will be for our eternal dwelling...and Rev provides a pretty graphic geography of what that 'place' will look like...

 

[Crustyone]

Heaven and the new earth will be separate. Remember that the New Jerusalem comes down from Heaven and God will reside in it to be with us. Also there will be a stream of living water running out from His throne. Symbolic or real I can't say for sure, but if the animals are going to eat grass there should have to be water somewhere. We won't be on our hands and knees worshiping God full time. We will probably be worshiping Him while we are building and planting as we are told that we will build and no one else will inhabit.(No renters) Also we will be sitting beneath fig trees. I suppose that God might just create these things for us, but a lot of people enjoy doing things with their hands, just like most people like to be around animals. God will give us a feast that will include meat when we first get there, but since there will be no killing, I can only speculate that He will create meat cuts to be cooked. It will certainly be possible.

 

[RickyZ]

That's an interesting theory. If the animals need water wouldn't we? And where does the idea of meat at God's feast come from? Maybe He'll serve veggie-burgers. He did intend us to be vegans after all.

 

[mpaper345]

The Bible says that people's spirits go upward,and all people's spirits go back to God who gave them,but animals spirits go downward and they do not have a soul.

Although we like pets companionship and comfort,there is no need for pets or animals to be in heaven,for we will not need their companionship in heaven because there will be no more tears,or grief,or pain there,and God did not create them for the purpose of going to heaven.

 

[Greggy]

Hi, everyone! I am new to this all and this is the first thing I have ever posted, so if this is not the way to do it, please tell me! Thanks
My pastor recently did I series of sermons on Heaven, and one entire sermon was about how there will not be animals or pets in Heaven. Even though it was a very nice service, I can't say that I agree with him. I have done my own studying on it lately and the more I read certain passages of the Bible, the more I disagree with the idea of having no animals in Heaven.
I'm just wondering what any of you think about this topic, and what passages give you those views.
Thank you all!
-Samantha

The lion will lie with the lamb is one that springs to mind.

Jesus loves animals He made enough of them and gave us a desire for them to.

 

[Greggy]

After reading the rest of the posts man dont you lot like to bring down and preach the doom and gloom

 

[RickyZ]

The Bible says that people's spirits go upward,and all people's spirits go back to God who gave them,but animals spirits go downward and they do not have a soul.

Although we like pets companionship and comfort,there is no need for pets or animals to be in heaven,for we will not need their companionship in heaven because there will be no more tears,or grief,or pain there,and God did not create them for the purpose of going to heaven.

I'm curious how, if animals just automatically go "down", and have no soul, how could the sacrifice of one have ever taken the place of a man losing his soul to sin?

In other words, if an animal is automatically doomed to hell, how could it then take the place of a human doomed to hell? You can't buy redemption from something that was never to be redeemed in the first place.

 

[Magenta]

The Bible says that people's spirits go upward,and all people's spirits go back to God who gave them,but animals spirits go downward and they do not have a soul.

Scripture poses the question:
Who knows if the human spirit rises upward and if the spirit of the animal goes down into the earth?

Where is it said they do not have a soul?