Apologetics: witnessing to atheists
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Regarding John 5:46, "For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me." Thank you for providing a verse indicating how Jesus interpreted the OT in light of the NT.
An example of Paul doing so is found in GL 4:21-31. Another is RM 2:17-29. In RM 3 Paul explains that the Jews were entrusted with the OT law for the purpose of leading them to the NT Gospel of Christ, and he asks at the end, "Do we then nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather we uphold the law." HB 7:18-10:1 explains that the OT law is superseded by NT grace. IOW, we should interpret the OT in light of the NT.
An example of Paul doing so is found in GL 4:21-31. Another is RM 2:17-29. In RM 3 Paul explains that the Jews were entrusted with the OT law for the purpose of leading them to the NT Gospel of Christ, and he asks at the end, "Do we then nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather we uphold the law." HB 7:18-10:1 explains that the OT law is superseded by NT grace. IOW, we should interpret the OT in light of the NT.
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Yes, I do. It's encouraging for me as well to know that someone (and that someone being you) is able to rationalize with logic and understanding without letting emotions get in the way while realizing that we are fallible in understanding as well. I can relate to this very well; I have a family where it seems that I'm the only one who is able to trust God without emotions in the way. Also, it seems that I'm the only one in my family that has a want to engage in theological Biblical discussions and my family doesn't want to take the time to talk about those things. It might be because of the reason you suggested, "I think many Christians prefer singing, praying, story-telling and entertaining sermons over systematic Bible study because they require less mental work." This is certainly true at my church, which has about 1,000 people, and my family I believe also doesn't want to take the time to talk about such deep theological topics because it might offend what they believe in which they hold to these beliefs very strongly and are strongly, EMOTIONALLY attached to them. I've bet you heard or at least heard something like, "why study theology? Isn't experiencing God better than knowing the deep theological things?".
He said it superseded it which means replaced
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Its not a replacement, the NT is a continuation of God's Word
(1) Apologetics: witnessing to atheists - Christian Chat Rooms & Forums
Its not a replacement, the NT is a continuation of God's Word
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Well, my quest/hunger for learning more of GW after "walking the aisle" has been long and I have published what I have learned on a website <truthseekersfellowship.com> where I say that my reason for writing it is simply to share my fallible faith with others, hoping they will find what I have learned helpful for understanding ultimate truth. As truthseekers, whenever we encounter someone who has a contradictory understanding, we want to learn which is the better belief, to admit when we are wrong, and to change our opinion. As people-lovers we want to share our knowledge with other truthseekers, so that we may fellowship (2TM 4:3-4, 1JN 1:3).
Not what Paul or Jesus taught, The only thing that changed with God's law is where it was placed, from tables of stone to tablets of the heart Exo 34:28 Heb 8:10
The only laws that changed according to scriptures are the commandments contained in ordinances- that had to do with the earthy sanctuary Heb 9:9-10 Eph 3:13 Col 2:14-17 not the Ten Commandments including the Sabbath commandment, that started at Creation, when God made everything good..
God of the OT said He would not alter the words of His covenant Psa 89:34 they stand sure forever and ever Psa 111:7-8 why God of the NT -Jesus- taught not a dot or tittle can pass from His law until ALL- all means all is fulfilled and that is when Jesus comes in the clouds.
I'm sorry you do not understand grace- it does not give us freedom to sin, we all have sinned and deserve death, that's why no one is saved by the law, we are saved by grace through faith. Do those with faith no longer obey God? No. Does grace mean we can sin? Why would someone in Christ why to live with sin any longer? Sin is breaking God's law 1 John 3:4 His version, not mans.
The only laws that changed according to scriptures are the commandments contained in ordinances- that had to do with the earthy sanctuary Heb 9:9-10 Eph 3:13 Col 2:14-17 not the Ten Commandments including the Sabbath commandment, that started at Creation, when God made everything good..
God of the OT said He would not alter the words of His covenant Psa 89:34 they stand sure forever and ever Psa 111:7-8 why God of the NT -Jesus- taught not a dot or tittle can pass from His law until ALL- all means all is fulfilled and that is when Jesus comes in the clouds.
I'm sorry you do not understand grace- it does not give us freedom to sin, we all have sinned and deserve death, that's why no one is saved by the law, we are saved by grace through faith. Do those with faith no longer obey God? No. Does grace mean we can sin? Why would someone in Christ why to live with sin any longer? Sin is breaking God's law 1 John 3:4 His version, not mans.
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Amen, the commandments contained in ordinances, the ceremonial law was fulfilled in Christ. Heb 9:9-10 Eph 3:13 Col 2:14-17 as it all pointed forward to Christ sacrifice who became our Passover Lamb. Heb 10:1-22 1 Cor 5:7 The moral law, stands forever Psa 111:7-8 Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18-30 Rev 22:14 John 14:15 Exo 20:6
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Yet you claim Jesus was a sinner and broke the commandments. You disagree with most of the teachings of Jesus including Mat 4:4
You don't understand the New Covenant and keep trying to force it to be established on better promises that God said it is established on Heb 8:6, not better/new laws, it still has God's law His version, just went from tablets of stone to tablets of the heart, with Him giving us His power to perform if we cooperate with Him through faith and love. You can't make something perfect converting the soul, written by our Perfect Savior more perfect. Hence why Jesus said I did not come to destroy the law- not a jot or tittle can pass, breaking the least of these commandments comes with some ramifications I would consider believing Jesus at His Word.
You don't understand the New Covenant and keep trying to force it to be established on better promises that God said it is established on Heb 8:6, not better/new laws, it still has God's law His version, just went from tablets of stone to tablets of the heart, with Him giving us His power to perform if we cooperate with Him through faith and love. You can't make something perfect converting the soul, written by our Perfect Savior more perfect. Hence why Jesus said I did not come to destroy the law- not a jot or tittle can pass, breaking the least of these commandments comes with some ramifications I would consider believing Jesus at His Word.
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Moses was a type of Christ and why Jesus mentioned him so much in the NT. Moses is mentioned 80 times in the NT.
There are many parallels from Moses leading people out of Egypt (the devils control) to their promise land. What the Israelites did, God's chosen people who most rebelled is what Christ is trying to do with us now to lead us into our Promise Land which is heaven. Sadly most rebel too against God Rom 8:7-8 not much has changed, but if we allow God to be God and to be King who wrote His own laws with His own finger and called them "My commandments" and we place our faith in Him to obey Him, not to be saved but through love and faith, we too can be lead on the narrow path back to reconciliation Rev 22:14 versus outside Rev 22:15 like many of the Israelites who also disobeyed Eze 20:13 Eze 20:21 that we are told not to follow their path of disobedience Heb 4:6 Heb 4:11
There are many parallels from Moses leading people out of Egypt (the devils control) to their promise land. What the Israelites did, God's chosen people who most rebelled is what Christ is trying to do with us now to lead us into our Promise Land which is heaven. Sadly most rebel too against God Rom 8:7-8 not much has changed, but if we allow God to be God and to be King who wrote His own laws with His own finger and called them "My commandments" and we place our faith in Him to obey Him, not to be saved but through love and faith, we too can be lead on the narrow path back to reconciliation Rev 22:14 versus outside Rev 22:15 like many of the Israelites who also disobeyed Eze 20:13 Eze 20:21 that we are told not to follow their path of disobedience Heb 4:6 Heb 4:11
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God's law of love lives in the hearts of Christians (RM 5:5), the OT sacrificial system fulfills its purpose and is superseded by the NT gospel of grace (HB 7:18-10:1), and obeying a myriad of OT commandments is changed to manifesting the fruit of the Spirit/love in its various manifestations (GL 5:22-23).
There is no sacrificial laws in the Ten Commandments- God's law of love. Exo 20:6 John 14:15 John 15:10 1 John 5:3-4 Rom 13:9
The sacrificial system was for breaking God's law until the Seed, which is Jesus, now when we sin and break God's law, we can go directly to Jesus when we confess and forsake our sins 1 John 1:9 Pro 28:13 when Jesus gives grace- forgives us- He says go and sin not more- He puts us back under the law because He does not what His children to sin 1 John 1:1 because that shows we belong to another 1 John 3:8 if we continue down this pass, not submitting to God's will- His law Psa 40:8 Heb 8:10 there will remain no more sacrifices for sin Heb 10:26-30. The choose is ours which path we end up on even if we don't realize it- Rom 6:16
The sacrificial system was for breaking God's law until the Seed, which is Jesus, now when we sin and break God's law, we can go directly to Jesus when we confess and forsake our sins 1 John 1:9 Pro 28:13 when Jesus gives grace- forgives us- He says go and sin not more- He puts us back under the law because He does not what His children to sin 1 John 1:1 because that shows we belong to another 1 John 3:8 if we continue down this pass, not submitting to God's will- His law Psa 40:8 Heb 8:10 there will remain no more sacrifices for sin Heb 10:26-30. The choose is ours which path we end up on even if we don't realize it- Rom 6:16
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Yes, Moses foreshadowed Christ, and we should not doubt that his attitude would be the same as expressed by John the Baptist in MT 3:11, "I baptize you with water for repentance, but after me will come one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not fit to carry, and He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire."
Moses was a type of the law. That's why he was not allowed to enter the promised land, ie the law is unable to lead God's people into perfection. Joshua, which is the Hebrew word for Jesus, is the type of Christ who led Israel into their inheritance. The law can only bring us to death, which is typified by Moses leading Israel to the Jordan River (which symbolizes the barrier of death), but no farther