Applying God's Word to Politics
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The real message behind Jesus' answer wasn't taxes, but authority and identity. If Caesar has authority to demand taxes of an individual, what does God have authority to demand? And if we render to Caesar things in his likeness, what should we, being in the image of God, render to Him?
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Really?
You think our intelligence is that low?
Do you know that this mindset of mixing politics with MAGA and The Bible is the opposite extreme of the trans agenda?
For example, just like the major has put some verses together here to defend his support of maga (like it's always the case with some Christians), the trans people also have put some verses together to justify that Jesus was a universalist, gender-neutral person.
Did you know that?
You think our intelligence is that low?
Do you know that this mindset of mixing politics with MAGA and The Bible is the opposite extreme of the trans agenda?
For example, just like the major has put some verses together here to defend his support of maga (like it's always the case with some Christians), the trans people also have put some verses together to justify that Jesus was a universalist, gender-neutral person.
Did you know that?
Israel was a Theocracy. That Temple tax was more or less the income tax at the time. It was one tenth of your profits for the year. No profits, no tax. Alot more fair than the sliding scale taxes....By the time our lORD WAS HERE THE FIRST TIME, THE entire system had been corrupted to the nth power. It hardly resembled the original intent of the collection.
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Yes, really.
Who is "our" [intelligence]?
Politics a.k.a. Government a.k.a. Rule is inescapable. I think God is allowing history to unfold in one aspect to allow men to try out all their theories to prove that we were never designed to rule ourselves apart from Him. Thus Jesus the Christ - YHWH's KING (Ps2) - the Only Absolute Ruler (Jude1:4) - The Only Lawgiver (James4:12). Until then I think He's created a very large sandbox for children to play in while He develops Sons for the eternal reality.
I think an interesting conversation can be had between @GWH (older generation) @ParticularWife (younger generation) and whoever else can add some perspectives to the new era obviously in formation.
Who is "our" [intelligence]?
Politics a.k.a. Government a.k.a. Rule is inescapable. I think God is allowing history to unfold in one aspect to allow men to try out all their theories to prove that we were never designed to rule ourselves apart from Him. Thus Jesus the Christ - YHWH's KING (Ps2) - the Only Absolute Ruler (Jude1:4) - The Only Lawgiver (James4:12). Until then I think He's created a very large sandbox for children to play in while He develops Sons for the eternal reality.
I think an interesting conversation can be had between @GWH (older generation) @ParticularWife (younger generation) and whoever else can add some perspectives to the new era obviously in formation.
Okay, so following along the lines of the trans ideology; let's pick something that's more closer to established Christianity.
Let's take Christians in Greece who make about 90% of the population who allow abortion up to 20 weeks or later depending on the circumstances and Christians in USA who make up about 50% of the population.
Do you think that God is telling:
a) Christians in Greece to abort babies at 20 weeks while telling Americans to not abort them at all? (0% chance)
or
b) Do you think that people are confused? (100% chance)?
Let's take Christians in Greece who make about 90% of the population who allow abortion up to 20 weeks or later depending on the circumstances and Christians in USA who make up about 50% of the population.
Do you think that God is telling:
a) Christians in Greece to abort babies at 20 weeks while telling Americans to not abort them at all? (0% chance)
or
b) Do you think that people are confused? (100% chance)?
Yes, Israel was founded as a Theocracy and, yes, was corrupted.
Yes, we could learn some things from their tax system. Thus the ongoing and never-ending debate in the US re: a flat tax.
So, how do we see if we can implement some Biblical wisdom into the nation God has allowed to form in history where it's citizens He has birthed them into in space and time are supposedly allowed a voice in it's policies? Or do we just sit it out and be passive as @ParticularWife seems to be alluding to in the case of the "Boomers"?
Yes, we could learn some things from their tax system. Thus the ongoing and never-ending debate in the US re: a flat tax.
So, how do we see if we can implement some Biblical wisdom into the nation God has allowed to form in history where it's citizens He has birthed them into in space and time are supposedly allowed a voice in it's policies? Or do we just sit it out and be passive as @ParticularWife seems to be alluding to in the case of the "Boomers"?
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I think we can see on forums like this that Christians are more than confused and that there is chaff among the [slow growing] wheat.
I also think that quoting statistics of how many are Christian in any nation is subject to scrutiny.
Please explain your previous comment about "our intelligence".
Please explain your focus on trans ideology.
I agree with you that some people who confuse politics with the Bible are very confused in many areas of the globe.
By "our intelligence" i meant that "are we that stupid for God to make us realize that Biden is a failure as an elected choice"?
That's the first meaning of "our intelligence". The second meaning is "are we that stupid that we confuse the Kingdom of God with some earthly nations in year 2024 at some random part of the globe?"
Also, I'm surprised you didn't get the trans ideology point.
It's very simple.
The trans ideology is the extreme opposite of the maga ideology when both groups try to pick verses out of the Bible to support their ideology.
In other words, the confusion as usual, is that people don't read the Bible with an open mind but with pre-concived notions to support their prior established beliefs before reading the Bible.
A trans person will look for verses which support "tolerance" and a Maga person will look for verses which "support" guns.
By "our intelligence" i meant that "are we that stupid for God to make us realize that Biden is a failure as an elected choice"?
That's the first meaning of "our intelligence". The second meaning is "are we that stupid that we confuse the Kingdom of God with some earthly nations in year 2024 at some random part of the globe?"
Also, I'm surprised you didn't get the trans ideology point.
It's very simple.
The trans ideology is the extreme opposite of the maga ideology when both groups try to pick verses out of the Bible to support their ideology.
In other words, the confusion as usual, is that people don't read the Bible with an open mind but with pre-concived notions to support their prior established beliefs before reading the Bible.
A trans person will look for verses which support "tolerance" and a Maga person will look for verses which "support" guns.