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...yeah...that might be misunderstood unless you're old enough to remember soap on a rope...that's the way I meant it just in case you were born sometime after the fad.
 

vic1980

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That is basically what is called existential Nihilism.

The Death of God is a very interesting topic and it does explain why the West is the way it is.

The Reformation in Germany and the processes after it, it destroyed Germany by the time the late 1800's, which is why I argue that Protestant Reformation is Nihilistic, because, I see what it did to Germany, it created Hegel and Marx both leading to Communism and Marxism. Look at America today, we are the most Protestant Country on Earth and if you compare 1700-1800 Germany and 1900-2018 America you will see a lot of parallels. The common trait of both countries is Protestantism. Germany created Marxism and America created Progressivism.
If you believe that the Protestant Reformation was Nihilistic , then you cannot understand what was at stake when the Papacy try to dictate Liberty of Conscience .

Did Rome have the right to coerce conscience and forbid free inquiry ? Perhaps you need to reconsider and refresh you mind upon this history , how many sacrifice there lives so that you could have The Word of God in your hands.

As for america being protestant , this has not been true for quite some time . For the foundation of Protestantism is Protest , intrusion of civil magistrates along with the arbitrary authority of the church. God Word is above all such powers neither the Bishop of Rome / Papacy and his anti Christ Doctrine or any other such power can stand above this truth. America as of now celebrates the papacy birthday at the White House , and the majority of evangelicals churches today , have been persuaded to aligned themselves with the RCC and its anti Christ .

The Holy Scriptures , calls this event that are taking place , the falling away of 2 Thessalonians 2:3

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;



Shalom
 
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Oh dear, I think we ran him off...now who will teach us??
I better go to bed before I get any more childish.
I'm actually capable of it.

I think I got so silly because the annihilationism threads hurt my head...
 
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Awww, I made bob sad because I don't understand his joke. :(
I don't know anything about New York City, that's probably why.
 

calibob

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I thought you were being silly. The cowboys sitting around the campfire when the cook breaks out a can of chili, one of them reads the label and says, "This stuffs made in New York City!" and they all got up and angrily asked "New York City?" then one said "get a rope"
 
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Oh yah, I googled it. It's not a chili commercial, it's a Pace Picante Sauce commercial. Which I didn't remember. And which explains the surprise emoji when I made my remark, which was just a silly reference to the "hot" Christmas gift one year when I was a kid. It was a bar of soap on a rope. And we had just been talking about the pope so...oh never mind, I'm an idjit! :LOL:
 

MarkWilliams

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Really, when did I ever say that? When have I objected to that?

What I don't agree with is your style of Christianity.

What I see is a lot of Fundamentalism and not a lot of intellectual thought. It is pure emotional response I see. No one can take on what I am saying and simply refer to what I say as "poo", that is not an argument that is a childish response. This is a childish response.

You want people to be converted to your belief, and you do everything possible to repel people from your beliefs.
You stated in your earlier posts that you don't think the Bible is reliable, you believe it doesn't have the complete word of God. You believe it's the Bible plus mans wisdom
 

calibob

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Hes gone Mark. But he thinks we are all fudamentalists, he's wrong on one count at least, I'm a progressive
 
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Okay bedtime.
Bob, I believe you and I gave the three stooges a run for their money tonight! :LOL:
It was like the whole "Who's on First" debacle/skit.
 

MarkWilliams

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Hes gone Mark. But he thinks we are all fudamentalists, he's wrong on one count at least, I'm a progressive
I consider myself a conservative, can we still be friends or are our different views irreconcilable.

I'm of the view, that Jesus finished the work of salvation on the cross so there's nothing new that we can add to the Gospel.

Also, there's nothing new in Gods universe. God has created everything and nothing more will ever be created and nothing new will ever be discovered. God never changes anything about Himself and He never changes His mind, everything remains unchanged forever.

I don't know how progressive people justify their view, that things are progressing or evolving when the Word of God says there's nothing new.
 

calibob

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I consider myself a conservative, can we still be friends or are our different views irreconcilable.

I'm of the view, that Jesus finished the work of salvation on the cross so there's nothing new that we can add to the Gospel.

Also, there's nothing new in Gods universe. God has created everything and nothing more will ever be created and nothing new will ever be discovered. God never changes anything about Himself and He never changes His mind, everything remains unchanged forever.

I don't know how progressive people justify their view, that things are progressing or evolving when the Word of God says there's nothing new.

Not a problem, the thing that bugs us is that the democratic party sold out to special interests also, serving their donners instead of the majority of voters leaving the system very one sided. Capitolism without Socialism is fascisim. Socialisim without Capitolism is Communism. Both are equaly bad. We need a level field to stay on course. That's all. So we rebelled against the democratic party.

The only thing I have against Republicans is they picked an 'A' moral nincompoop to be our leader. It is not your fault I know.
 

calibob

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I've had it. my ac is out, i live in a fiberglass coach and it was 100 today; its cool now g'night
 

jb

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Are Roman Catholics Christians
I know many Catholics who are fine Christians (washed in the Blood of the Saviour) and many who are not, and likewise I know many Protestants (washed in the Blood of Jesus) who are fine Christians and many who are not...

So, the upshot of this is that ALL people need a living faith in Jesus, not something else.
 

Jackson123

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Catholic encyclopedia say economic basis of reduction of Paraguay is sort of communist


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The economic basis was a sort of communism, which, however differed materially from the modern system which bears the same name, and was essentially theocratic. "The Jesuits", writes Gelpi y Ferro, "realized in their Christian commonwealth all that is good and nothing that is bad in the


The Jesuit Reductions of Paraguay, one of the most singular and beautiful creations of Catholic missionary activity, have contributed more than any other factor ...