I agree that the description in Joel 2:31 aligns with a similar description in the details of the 6th seal.
Of course, however, as you know I who once demanded a 21 Judgment event now understand the 7 Trumps contain all the judgments and the 7 vials finish off the 7 trumpet judgments. I am not a guy who can't see when God requires a reboot, some people are just not very likely to change opinions once they set in, I think that is why this was my calling long ago. But we agree here on this subset point.
I tend to agree with this - I have long believed that this was the case; however, the possibility exists for it to be somewhat shorter - depending on how quickly the Two Witnesses begin bringing about the Trumpet events with their prophecy/testimony.
The Two-Witnesses are the 1335, they show up 75 days before the 1260, when the Holy Spirit gave this to me I thought it was a Lying Spirit (we are told to try the spirits to see of the be of God) but I went through every point and nothing is out of alignment, the Two-witnesses even die at the 2nd Woe, of course they pray down the 3rd Woe before they die, their ministry is thus finished, I understand they die 75 days before the 3rd Woe ends because they show up 75 days before the Beast shows up at the 1260 middle of the week events. The whole "shorter" mention in Matt. 24 is just Jesus telling them why the Beasts reign is cut short (to only 1260 days), else no life would be left.
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It should be fairly obvious that I said this to make a point - to 'give you some of your own medicine' - to hopefully 'give you pause' - so that you might in some way be willing to reconsider your stance on this topic.
I am OK with correction, medicine, God shows me where I am wrong every day, you know why? I am willing to bein error, always, happy to be told so, because that means I am learning God's truths. 7 or so years ago when I had my heart attack, in short, I asked God why we have so many understandings of prophetic things in these end times when God was supposed to pour out His spirit and show us the church all things. And He answered me,
"Ron, you guys already know it all"
So, I understood what the Lord was telling me straight off. A lot of stuff we think we know we do not know because we got it from other men BEFORE God was willing to reveal these things, so now in these end times, He can't get us off of those old wrongheaded understandings like the 144,00 are Super Preachers, that is nowhere in the bible. But because of this we can't see that the 144,000 like the Woman is really just a CODE for All Israel who repent. And on and on it goes. Reading 1 Cor. 15 very carefully it is obvious that what the "CHANGE" means is we change from this physical body to a Spiritual body when web go to heaven, and thus leaving our body behind means in the blink of an eye we DIE. Now, when one reads like verses 40-52 it is very obvious that is what this means, but we have guys who insist we fly of in this body and go to heaven, or change into another "Glorious Body" on the way when Rev. 19 says Jesus gives us our new White Robes (Glorious Bodies) in heaven.
Lets see, in the verses it says this, no flesh can enter heaven, it says the Dead are raised without CORRUPTION, which means with no sin flesh, they are raised as Spirit Men. It says this in the passage watch this. You just have to back up a wee bit.
1 Cor. 15:44 It is sown a natural body;
it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
So, we just need to add it all up, the Dead are raised without corruption, meaning as Spirit Men. Then at the time of the Rapture those who are alive will be CHANGED, which means our Spirit Men, goes to be with the Lord, just like those raised from the dead, because no Sin Flesh can enter heaven. So, now add it all up and it is a GUGE DIFFERENCE, now we are not looking at a billion men who go missing, but a Billion Deaths !! Is this nuance important? Yes, very much so, if we can tell the normies what is coming, and then they see it come to pass, maybe that will make them see the light in time to chose God. Hey, normal men and when who do not know Christ, you will soon see a Billion Men & Woman all die at once, that is the Rapture. The facts do matter.
So, since that prayer, I asked God to always show me when I am wrong, we have to be ready to be wrong, and God can then whisper it to us. I had wrote a long blog citing Rome as THAT CITY in Rev. 17:18 when the holy spirit was like, Ron you are WRONG, look at what John actually SAW !! So I looked, and the vison is only 4 verses, and John saw Babylon, not Rome, which I inserted as meaning Rome because it was in John's time, like other people did. But I knew God whispered that to me for a reason so I relooked at the vision of 4 verses very carefully. I saw that Mystery (Musterion or Secret by God's Silence) was not a part of four descriptors, there was only three, Mystery was a HEADER like a Question Mark, then we got a Comma, it was never Mystery Babylon, vs. 7 confirms this, the Angel says come I will show you the Mystery of the Harlot AND the Beast she rides. Babylon was 1 of 3 descriptors. So, the Angel explained it all, we all just missed it and continued to call it Mystery Babylon mistakenly. These Three Descriptors explain who the Harlot is 100 percent.
Mystery (?)
1.) Babylon the Great ( Babylon was renowned worldwide for its
FALSE RELIGION )
2.) Mother of Harlots (
FALSE RELIGION was the original Harlotry unto God not False Government )
3.) Abominations of the Earth ( God is a jealous God, he hates all
FALLSE RELIGION )
Harlots in the city centers wore name tags so their clientele could see who they were when they were sent to the city center. We are getting Three NAME TAGS here, Babylon the Great, Mother of Harlots, and Abominations of the whole earth, these describe ALL FALSE RELIGION of All Time, this is why she sits n MANY WATERS, this is why she has the blood of the Saints (Jews and Prophets) AND the blood of the Martyrs of Jesus on her hands, she was on both sides of the cross. She wears Scarlet and Purple because they were exclusive colors that were expensive to create, only the Royals (Gov.) and Religious Orders (Harlot Religions mostly) could afford them. So, the Harlot (False Religion) RODE the Beast or False Governments down through the ages, they all had false religions intermingled in their Governments, from Egypt, to Babylon, to Greece and Rome.
The Harlot is False Religion, the 10 Kings (Complete E.U. Reunited) kills her off at the end (Rev. 17:16). Why, because unlike the other Beats, this last beast demands to be worshiped as the ONLY GOD. Rev. 18 is Babylon (The WHOLE WORLD) being Judged.
So, if I do not follow men's ideas, that is OK, because our calling is to be led by the Holy Spirit.
At the point where any of us truly believe we "cannot be in error" - it is at that point that we fall into error - even if only with regard to our attitude.
We can, and as just shown, I have been many times, the difference is when God reproves you, instead of GUESSING you now know, that you know, that you know. Its a totally different thing, as you know, than guessing or having a "BELIEF" and/or THESIS on something.
Because I believe it might be beneficial, I intend to spend some time today putting together a post that discusses those things you have said in posts #46 and #53 of this thread of which we actually seem to be in agreement.
Where 'our' [previous] conversation is concerned in this thread - please wait for it.
In the meanwhile, out of curiosity, I have a couple of questions for you...
Just how "young" do you think I am?
43-47 maybe a wee bit younger, not sure people can use younger pics. I been on your Youtube channel also, I watch everyone, I give everyone a look see. I just don't often interact. In am am nigh 60. Reading in bible school I could say 55 years, but I only count when my calling occurred at like 21-22.