Are there any God ordained feasts I can partake in?

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posthuman

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While every part of the Law, even every part of the scripture, testifies of Christ, who is salvation, keeping the feasts according to that Law is definitely not the plan of salvation.

That is, no one is saved by keeping the feasts, and the keeping of them wasn't given as a requirement for salvation to us as having become believers. Paul said, for example, that 'christ our Passover lamb has been sacrificed' -- He is the substance of the shadows given by the feasts. How could we be required to sacrifice another lamb, when our Lamb, the Lamb of God has been given once for all?

They are beautiful pictures of Him and His work, that we ought all get to know. Pictures of Gods salvation that were revealed in the reality, Jesus Christ.
 

posthuman

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And remember, if Jesus came to us today as a brick mason, or carpenter, went in to any one of the Churches of this land, and said, only those things He said before, most churches would label Him as a Legalist and drive Him out of their presence.

I hope you find what you are looking for.
It'd be pretty weird if Christ came back and acted like He had not already fulfilled the Law and given Himself once and for all to perfect forever all who He is making holy...
 

beta

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Religious traditions or man and not from God are a hard thing to overcome, and have been around since the Golden calf and their man made "Feasts unto the Lord".

So it is a difficult topic to discuss. People who adhere to man made traditions will be against or ignorant of God's Holy Days.

I can only give you my perspective, which is a perspective that has chosen, as close as I can, the Ways of God and not the religious ways of man. No SDA, AOG, Methodist, Baptist, No Pope, No Hebrew Roots, not a Jew, I just believe in the Bible, All of it.

Yesterday was "Feast of Weeks, or Pentecost. When to first Church of Christ gathered on this Holy Day they were blessed. But Pentecost without Feast of Unleavened Bread means nothing, and Feast of Unleavened bread without Passover means nothing.

I believe that those who truly seeking God, with all their heart, will find Him. It would be wrong for me to tell you what to do, but not wrong showing you His Word and letting Him Direct you.

In Leviticus 23 God lays out the highlights of His Salvation Plan, if you can except it.

1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

It is important to note that this "Lord" is the Word which became Flesh in the person of Jesus. This Lord created "ALL THINGS" according to the New Testament, including the following Holy Days.

2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.

So Jesus, as the Word, made a point to tell His People that the Following Holy Days are HIS Feasts, not man's, not the Jews, Not from Moses, or any other entity. These Feasts belong to the "Word which became Flesh".

3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.

It is also a Biblical Fact that the First Holy Day the Word which became Flesh created was His Sabbath. This kind of sheds some light on the Word's of the Christ "for the Son of Man is Lord, even of the Sabbath Day".

This is a hard pill to swallow for "Many", who come in Christ's name, and say Lord, Lord, but do not what He says. It also exposes the phrase "Jewish tradition" as not true when applied to God's Sabbath and Holy Days.

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So after the weekly Sabbath the Holydays begin with Passover. I have always found it fascinating that most mainstream religions consider Passover as the "END" of God's Salvation plan. "it is finished" they cry. But the Word which became Flesh created just the opposite. According to HIS Salvation plan, Passover is the Beginning of salvation.

Then comes Feast of Unleavened bread, which represents our new life which is to be free from Leaven (Representing sin). It is a 7 day feast which represents our whole life "after Passover". It has a Sabbath on the First day and a Sabbath on the Last day. This is why there were two Sabbaths the week of Christ's death.

After that comes Pentecost. You can't properly observe Pentecost, or "Feast of Weeks" or "Feast of First fruits" as it is also called, unless one counts correctly from Unleavened bread. These feasts were aligned with "harvest" practices to foreshadow "things to come".

Jesus was the very first "first fruit", the very first person to actually be "born of God" in His Resurrection. This was symbolized in the OT by the "first sheaf" (a handful of stalks and cereal grass, "an omers worth") to be waved before the Eternal God by the Priest on the morning after His Resurrection. This "lifting up" and "waving" then coming back down shows how Jesus was "lifted" before coming back down.

Fascinating stuff and a great study and will change your understanding of the scriptures forever should you decide to trust God enough follow them.

Feast of Trumpets, which represent the 2nd coming of Christ to take over the Earth and rule the nations.

Day of Atonement, symbolizes the putting away of satan, and the placing of the worlds sin on it's head where it belongs.

Feast of Tabernacles (Booths) symbolizes the 1000 year reign under the Rule of the Christ and the "born children of God". This also is 7 day Feast.

Last Great Day, symbolizes the final judgment, "White throne Judgment" where all who died without the knowledge of Christ, (Those who died in ignorance) will get their fair trial to Salvation.

So as to my advice.

It is my belief that "MAN" and their practice of ignoring God's Word, but still wanting His gift, so creating another path to get it, has always been the problem.

We have the Pope, whose religion changes with the wind and the amount of money people are willing to give to them, we have the thousands of religious movements, Catholics, Baptists, AOG, Hebrew Roots, SDA, Methodists, JW, the list goes on and on and on.

Each one claiming their way is the right way. The only thing they all seem to have in common is they all "Transgress the commandments of God by their own religious Traditions.

So for my family and I, we stopped listening to them all and simply did as Jesus instructed.

John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

It has been my experience that when we study His Word, truly seeking to know Him, and follow the instructions of the things we can understand, He will lead us into His Truth.

This is the New Covenant, we no longer need fleshy priests or preachers to filter His Word, we all have direct access to it.


And remember, if Jesus came to us today as a brick mason, or carpenter, went in to any one of the Churches of this land, and said, only those things He said before, most churches would label Him as a Legalist and drive Him out of their presence.

I hope you find what you are looking for.


Great Post !!! I'm sure this will be helpful to Ben and his family.
I am glad you mentioned the Sabbath day as part of GOD's Holy Days Lev 23. It is the one to start keeping as God wants people to ''assemble on that day to hear instructions from Himself...so as I see it there is little point in keeping some other feast days without first keeping the Sabbath...which sadly is the 'stumbling-stone for christians.
 

beta

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While every part of the Law, even every part of the scripture, testifies of Christ, who is salvation, keeping the feasts according to that Law is definitely not the plan of salvation.

That is, no one is saved by keeping the feasts, and the keeping of them wasn't given as a requirement for salvation to us as having become believers. Paul said, for example, that 'christ our Passover lamb has been sacrificed' -- He is the substance of the shadows given by the feasts. How could we be required to sacrifice another lamb, when our Lamb, the Lamb of God has been given once for all?

They are beautiful pictures of Him and His work, that we ought all get to know. Pictures of Gods salvation that were revealed in the reality, Jesus Christ.
You are right...we no longer need to keep the feasts as they used to be kept. In spiritually observing them we keep in remembrance how God works all for our benefit from beginning to end.
Time spent in fellowship with the Father and His Son is all that is required on these Holy Days including Sabbath day.
 
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so as I see it there is little point in keeping some other feast days without first keeping the Sabbath...which sadly is the 'stumbling-stone for christians.
Christ is the rock of offense and stumbling stone to ... law keepers.

Why that? Because [they did] not [pursue it] by faith, but as [if] by works. They stumbled over the stone that causes people to stumble, just as it is written, ​“Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone that causes people to stumble, and a rock that causes them to fall, and the one who believes in him will not be put to shame.” Romans 9:32-33

Therefore the honor [is] for you who believe, but for those who refuse to believe, ​“The stone that the builders rejected, this one has become the cornerstone,” and ​“A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense,” ​who stumble [because they] disobey the word to which also they were consigned. 1 Peter 2:7-8
 
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Well, Jesus Christ was a Jew and not a christian. The followers of Christ where called christians. We as christians celebrate sunday as restday, because Jesus rose up on a n sunday and the First christians gathered together in an sunday for Service.
If we would be Jews we had to participate the feasts which God gave Mose in Exedus and Leviticus together with the Sacrifices.
So I See the sunday and the Lords Supper as Feast which God gave to us who follow Jesus. Everything else are man Made traditions.
The word Sabbath is not a time sensitive word to begin with. Any time and location we hear the word and harden not our hearts we have entered His Sabbath, not according our own works or will. We work it out the free gift not work to obtain it .He works in us to both will and do His good pleasure called a imputed righteousness

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Sunday Sabbath is a day we can work to get the gospel out into the world, a day when our servile work is not required. One day to put aside the plow and bring the gospel to our neighbor. The rest is rest from our own daily works (40 hour) needed to eat food for there bodies of death and provide shelter.
 

Blik

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I don't think there are any feasts for Christians similar to the ones in the Old Testament.

I'd go with the idea that the kingdom of God isn't about things like eating and drinking.

Also, I really appreciate the calm tone of your OP.
So if we use the words legalistic, and the fact that the kingdom of God isn't about eating and drinking then we can use these words not to obey God?

You are living in your body and if you do anything it is with the body. So if anything you do to worship God can be labeled legalistic, then you are just dead in the water.

When you obey God with the feasts you are eating the food you eat does nothing but how in the world are you going to sit down at a table with your family of God's people and celebrate the Lord without eating? Is it then the celebrating and worship you are doing or is it the food you eat?

All this is just excuses not to do what God tells us to do.
 

Nehemiah6

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All this is just excuses not to do what God tells us to do.
God has told us what to do in the New Testament. New Testament means New Covenant, and New Covenant means that the types and shadows of the Old Covenant have been fulfilled in Christ -- who is THE REALITY.

So which feast did the Lord Jesus Christ give to the Church? Just one feast -- the Memorial Feast of the Lord's Supper.

If you try to go beyond that, you are actually IN DISOBEDIENCE (no matter how good it looks to you).
 

Blik

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God has told us what to do in the New Testament. New Testament means New Covenant, and New Covenant means that the types and shadows of the Old Covenant have been fulfilled in Christ -- who is THE REALITY.

So which feast did the Lord Jesus Christ give to the Church? Just one feast -- the Memorial Feast of the Lord's Supper.

If you try to go beyond that, you are actually IN DISOBEDIENCE (no matter how good it looks to you).
When Christ fulfilled all that was foretold of Him, there was nothing either foretold or that Christ said that told us to stop believing in all God the Father had promised and taught. Christ added, Christ did not take away, Christ even told us so.

If you signed a contract with another person, then you signed an additional one you would not say that because of the new contract it automatically did away with the old one. Yet that is what you are accusing your God of.

We have one God, eternal and magnificent, not two Gods. One old and not to be listened to or believed and a young one who is a rebel and modern. That is from a Greek myth. We have one God who is truth. They speak the same truth.
 

Dan_473

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So if we use the words legalistic, and the fact that the kingdom of God isn't about eating and drinking then we can use these words not to obey God?

You are living in your body and if you do anything it is with the body. So if anything you do to worship God can be labeled legalistic, then you are just dead in the water.

When you obey God with the feasts you are eating the food you eat does nothing but how in the world are you going to sit down at a table with your family of God's people and celebrate the Lord without eating? Is it then the celebrating and worship you are doing or is it the food you eat?

All this is just excuses not to do what God tells us to do.
no excuses, this is what God tells us to do

In everything,therefore,*treat people the same way you want[j]them to treat you, for*this is the Law and the Prophets.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew7&version=NASB
 

OneFaith

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Yeah, dinner. (and breakfast, and lunch, and snacks). We need to pray before we eat. The old testament feasts represent the church's love feasts today (potlucks). Also partaking of the Lords Supper. God is in all we do. "Whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of Christ, giving thanks to God through Him."
 

Nehemiah6

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When Christ fulfilled all that was foretold of Him, there was nothing either foretold or that Christ said that told us to stop believing in all God the Father had promised and taught. Christ added, Christ did not take away, Christ even told us so.
I don't believe you have a clue about the New Covenant, and neither do you want to really know. Just remember that God was extremely displeased with the feasts and fasts of Israel WHILE THEY DISOBEYED HIM.
 

Blik

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Yeah, dinner. (and breakfast, and lunch, and snacks). We need to pray before we eat. The old testament feasts represent the church's love feasts today (potlucks). Also partaking of the Lords Supper. God is in all we do. "Whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of Christ, giving thanks to God through Him."
How can you say that God is in everything you do when if you won't obey Him? God didn't direct you to have potlucks, but over and over God directs you to celebrate His plan of salvation for you with the feasts.

If you say "yes Lord" to His direction to give thanks, why say "no Lord" to celebrating His plan of salvation for you?
 

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Well to tell you the truth ben my families biggest feast and event is Thanksgiving. We all gather to give testamony of the year past and ask for blessings for the year to come. Paul said always give thanks. We have incorporated a national holiday into it's true meaning to the one that deserves the praise.
 

Blik

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Well to tell you the truth ben my families biggest feast and event is Thanksgiving. We all gather to give testamony of the year past and ask for blessings for the year to come. Paul said always give thanks. We have incorporated a national holiday into it's true meaning to the one that deserves the praise.
Paul said to always give thanks, but it is your decision to give thanks on Thanksgiving Day, it is not the Lord's direction.
 

Blik

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I don't believe you have a clue about the New Covenant, and neither do you want to really know. Just remember that God was extremely displeased with the feasts and fasts of Israel WHILE THEY DISOBEYED HIM.
Have you studied the covenants? You accuse me of not knowing them. Of course!!! I know what Christ means to us, what He does for us. Can you tell me exactly what the "old covenant" is that is all gone now you say because we have a new one. What is it that Christ did away with? Can we sin now, with no bad effect on our life? Must we use animals for our repentance and if not why not? Did Christ replace God? Did Christ change what God told us? What is the difference between Christ the Son and God the Father? Have YOU studied enough to answer these questions with truth?
 

graceNpeace

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When the Romans killed the Jewish church fathers and put in the gentile church fathers, they brought in what their mothers had taught them---from pagan religions. If you study what these men taught as if it was from God you would not be accepting their ideas as if it was truth. When we replace the blood of Christ with the symbolic blood of Christ that animals were, we are not to replace God's commands because of this.

When Christ (who is God) taught that doing what God gave man to lead him to God was not the end of worship, it must lead to actual worship it is not saying that what God gave man to do was wrong and bad. It is saying the such as dietary laws and circumcision were to lead them to worship, they were not worship.

God told of His plan for our salvation with the feasts. God explained that we were to celebrate this plan forever. Christ did this, and we are to follow Christ. Paul did this and we are to follow Paul.

God did not give us Christmas, it is man made. God did not give us Easter, that word is not in scripture. It is a corruption of Passover. The world took over Christmas. Easter now is hats, clothes, bunnies, eggs. God protected His feasts.

God said to celebrate his plan of salvation through the feast forever, Christ said He speaks for God. Christ said He did not change anything the Father told us.
Mindless propaganda - pay it no heed...
 

Nehemiah6

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Have you studied the covenants? You accuse me of not knowing them. Of course!!! I know what Christ means to us, what He does for us. Can you tell me exactly what the "old covenant" is that is all gone now you say because we have a new one. What is it that Christ did away with? Can we sin now, with no bad effect on our life? Must we use animals for our repentance and if not why not? Did Christ replace God? Did Christ change what God told us? What is the difference between Christ the Son and God the Father? Have YOU studied enough to answer these questions with truth?
Bottom line: Do you -- or do you not -- believe that Christians have only one "feast" -- the Lord's Supper?
 

graceNpeace

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If you want to celebrate a feast - celebrate the Lord's Supper - it is never just a wafer of "cardboard" and a sip of red grape juice or wine when instituted!
It was a true meal - a proper feast...

Forget about the Hebrew Roots crowd and their obsession with the Sinaitic covenant, we are New covenant believers!