Are we in the end times ?
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You may disagree with me, but I'll defend your right to disagree with me!
Ease my mind? Due to unending multiple disease, pain, and isolation issues, the great tribulation is not something I fear, as day-to-day life has been, for me, for years, just short of a never-ending nightmare. But...
I can do all things in Messiah, who strengthens me. - bible
His grace is sufficient for me. - bible
His peace surpasses all understanding -bible
The Lord is my strength and my power...He will never leave me! - bible
I am on the road...to my home...in the New Jerusalem...and when I get there, there will be no more death, no more mourning, no more crying...or pain. Hallelujah!
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You are correct in saying the coming (resurrection and the Millennium. This is my understanding. Lord foretold of the antichrist which will be 7 year years long but the Lord's time table is not the same as the antichrist. When the covenant is made with many starts the tribulation, 1260 days later he takes his seat in the temple claiming to be god, 30 days later on the 1290th day the abomination of desolation is placed, then on the 1335th day of the tribulation ( Blessed day in Dan 12 ) begins the Day of the Lord for a thousand years. There is 1185 left after the day of the Lord begins in which the Lord pours out the bowl judgements. The antichrist reign during the beginning of the dy of the Lord and why the bowl judgements are so terrible.
If we apply this question to the church or assembly Christ is building - we would say there are no signs because as believers in the church age, we are not instructed to look for signs. However, we were given the signs, as told by Jesus Christ, upon Jewish ground. Therefore, we do know some of the signs. There are also prophetic signs given in the OT but I will use only those spoken of by Christ:
Mat 24:7-8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there shall be famines and earthquakes in divers places. But all these things are the beginning of travail.
What is "travail"? The beginning of the birth pains. So nation rising against nation and famine and earthquakes are the beginning of the end times. I think we would all agree, that wars are very prevalent today. Additionally, that war has been extreme in just the last hundred years. WWI and WWII, Korea and Vietnam, Afghanistan and Kuwait, just to mention a few of the big ones. Famine has become an ever increasing global problem. Food production is stretched to the limit. Earthquakes, seem to be on the rise, if not in number, the intensity of each. Volcanic eruptions are taking place all around the globe. These are just the birth pangs.
Mat 24:10 And then shall many stumble, and shall deliver up one another, and shall hate one another.
Is not the hatred for fellow man on the increase? People are vilified for their beliefs, whether they are about religion, politics, are way of life. In Religion - not just Islam vs. Christianity but within so-called Christian circles. People lash out at others because those do not hold to what they believe. Erroneous Doctrine should be dealt with but not through slanderous speech and name calling. One should always listen closely before giving answer. In Politics - The Republicans hate the Democrats who hate the Independents. The liberals can't stand the conservatives. In way of life - People hate being told what they do or think is wrong. People want to do what is good in their own sight. Sound familiar? People are up in arms over "race", when it should be called "ethnic differences". All of humanity is of the same "race" but we do have ethnic variety. Homosexuality is being forced upon Heterosexuals' and we are told by our government, that if we don't conform, we could be penalized by law. People are surgically changing their sex. Is this not of the last days?
Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall arise, and shall lead many astray.
Is not the state of the churches, today, the worst ever seen? Doctrine is no longer taught as it should be. In power and truth. Most church goers, today, don't even know what their church believes. The church teaches "Christian Liberty", instead of sound Doctrine. We have never seen such an attempt by church leaders, as today, to compromise Doctrine and push to find common ground among various belief systems. The "world" church cannot be far behind. Churches, full of false prophets, tell people that it is "okay" to practice homosexuality - God Loves You - completely in contradiction to the Bible. Some churches ordain them. Women are ordained as Pastor/Teachers, forbidden by the Bible. The end results, leading many astray.
Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall be multiplied, the love of the many shall wax cold.
Have we ever seen a time, when the love of fellow man has grown so uncaring. My daughter saw an accident the other day, where a car went off the freeway and burst into flame. She said many motorist stopped. To give aid? NO - to video the incident with their phones. Only two men went to the driver's aid. A police officer told me recently, they were trying to find this guy, who keeps running around the clubs in Scottsdale, NAKED. He told me, 'People video him and put it on YouTube but they don't call the police.' Lawlessness increases hatred and decreases love. Is not our world, country and cities become like Sodom and Gomorrah?
Mar 13:12 And brother shall deliver up brother to death, and the father his child; and children shall rise up against parents, and cause them to be put to death.
While this particular "sign" has not yet risen to it's zenith in our nation (U.S.), in many countries this is taking place. Has there ever been a time when the family institution has been in such disarray? People marrying and divorcing like some one changing socks. Persons out of wedlock, having children everywhere and aborting those they care not for. Parents neglecting their duties to each other and their children. Children thumbing their noses at the authority of their parents. Sons threatening their mothers with physical harm.
Are we in the last days? I will let you decide. All I can say is: "Come Lord Jesus".
Mat 24:7-8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there shall be famines and earthquakes in divers places. But all these things are the beginning of travail.
What is "travail"? The beginning of the birth pains. So nation rising against nation and famine and earthquakes are the beginning of the end times. I think we would all agree, that wars are very prevalent today. Additionally, that war has been extreme in just the last hundred years. WWI and WWII, Korea and Vietnam, Afghanistan and Kuwait, just to mention a few of the big ones. Famine has become an ever increasing global problem. Food production is stretched to the limit. Earthquakes, seem to be on the rise, if not in number, the intensity of each. Volcanic eruptions are taking place all around the globe. These are just the birth pangs.
Mat 24:10 And then shall many stumble, and shall deliver up one another, and shall hate one another.
Is not the hatred for fellow man on the increase? People are vilified for their beliefs, whether they are about religion, politics, are way of life. In Religion - not just Islam vs. Christianity but within so-called Christian circles. People lash out at others because those do not hold to what they believe. Erroneous Doctrine should be dealt with but not through slanderous speech and name calling. One should always listen closely before giving answer. In Politics - The Republicans hate the Democrats who hate the Independents. The liberals can't stand the conservatives. In way of life - People hate being told what they do or think is wrong. People want to do what is good in their own sight. Sound familiar? People are up in arms over "race", when it should be called "ethnic differences". All of humanity is of the same "race" but we do have ethnic variety. Homosexuality is being forced upon Heterosexuals' and we are told by our government, that if we don't conform, we could be penalized by law. People are surgically changing their sex. Is this not of the last days?
Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall arise, and shall lead many astray.
Is not the state of the churches, today, the worst ever seen? Doctrine is no longer taught as it should be. In power and truth. Most church goers, today, don't even know what their church believes. The church teaches "Christian Liberty", instead of sound Doctrine. We have never seen such an attempt by church leaders, as today, to compromise Doctrine and push to find common ground among various belief systems. The "world" church cannot be far behind. Churches, full of false prophets, tell people that it is "okay" to practice homosexuality - God Loves You - completely in contradiction to the Bible. Some churches ordain them. Women are ordained as Pastor/Teachers, forbidden by the Bible. The end results, leading many astray.
Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall be multiplied, the love of the many shall wax cold.
Have we ever seen a time, when the love of fellow man has grown so uncaring. My daughter saw an accident the other day, where a car went off the freeway and burst into flame. She said many motorist stopped. To give aid? NO - to video the incident with their phones. Only two men went to the driver's aid. A police officer told me recently, they were trying to find this guy, who keeps running around the clubs in Scottsdale, NAKED. He told me, 'People video him and put it on YouTube but they don't call the police.' Lawlessness increases hatred and decreases love. Is not our world, country and cities become like Sodom and Gomorrah?
Mar 13:12 And brother shall deliver up brother to death, and the father his child; and children shall rise up against parents, and cause them to be put to death.
While this particular "sign" has not yet risen to it's zenith in our nation (U.S.), in many countries this is taking place. Has there ever been a time when the family institution has been in such disarray? People marrying and divorcing like some one changing socks. Persons out of wedlock, having children everywhere and aborting those they care not for. Parents neglecting their duties to each other and their children. Children thumbing their noses at the authority of their parents. Sons threatening their mothers with physical harm.
Are we in the last days? I will let you decide. All I can say is: "Come Lord Jesus".
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I don't like to boast, but I know how to count. If you don't better learn the wisdom.
As for the signs. Rising china vs declining usa - thucydides' assessment of peloponnesian war to the rise of athens, air-sea battle doctrine where war is avoided by threat of thermonuclear exchange, american generals saying the china engagement will result in massive loss.
The hegemon will flip soon, the options are limited. End of history is at hand.
Read about the 5th seal and just enjoy the show.
As for the signs. Rising china vs declining usa - thucydides' assessment of peloponnesian war to the rise of athens, air-sea battle doctrine where war is avoided by threat of thermonuclear exchange, american generals saying the china engagement will result in massive loss.
The hegemon will flip soon, the options are limited. End of history is at hand.
Read about the 5th seal and just enjoy the show.
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I have been praying that the reign of the Antichrist will not be able to occur for at least another 500 years.
The reality is that he will not be able to reign until "the power of the holy people has been scattered" (Daniel 12:7).
The church may let him reign while we are still on the earth; only if we are stupid.
"Where there are prophecies, they will fail" (1 Corinthians 13:8).
The reign of the Antichrist is not inevitable in this time;
As a matter of fact it is a doctrine of the Bible that he will not be able to reign for as long as the Holy Spirit is in the world, dwelling in the church.
As soon as the church is taken out, and the Holy Ghost with it, then and only then will that restraining factor be gone from the earth so that the agenda of the Antichrist will be able to be accomplished by the enemy of every man's soul.
The reality is that he will not be able to reign until "the power of the holy people has been scattered" (Daniel 12:7).
The church may let him reign while we are still on the earth; only if we are stupid.
"Where there are prophecies, they will fail" (1 Corinthians 13:8).
The reign of the Antichrist is not inevitable in this time;
As a matter of fact it is a doctrine of the Bible that he will not be able to reign for as long as the Holy Spirit is in the world, dwelling in the church.
As soon as the church is taken out, and the Holy Ghost with it, then and only then will that restraining factor be gone from the earth so that the agenda of the Antichrist will be able to be accomplished by the enemy of every man's soul.
The Psalm 83 war lasted from 1948 until 2010ish, as per 2017, that is not of God, He doesn't deal with the profane Horoscope, that's the Devil's domain. You have been hoodwinked on that one.
The Gog & Magog war comes after the Psalm 83 war, it is contingent upon peace between Israel and her IMMEDIATE neighbors, we know this because none of the nations named in the Gog/Magog war have a common border with Israel, thus the Abraham Accords meet this definition, and were a must before the end could come. The "Sign" in Rev. 12 is simply telling us where THAT BEAST (Satan) resides, in Heaven as we speak, before he gets cast down to earth. In Rev. 13 we are shown where that Beast resides, ON EARTH, because he arises out of the [Mediterranean] Sea. Then in Rev. 13, we are shown where THAT BEAST resides, in the Bottomless Pit. Rev. 15 starts off via a SIGN IN HEAVEN also, because the Angels are readying the 7 Last Vials of God's Wrath............IN HEAVEN !! It has nothing to do with a Horoscope sign that is if Satan.
The Gog & Magog war comes after the Psalm 83 war, it is contingent upon peace between Israel and her IMMEDIATE neighbors, we know this because none of the nations named in the Gog/Magog war have a common border with Israel, thus the Abraham Accords meet this definition, and were a must before the end could come. The "Sign" in Rev. 12 is simply telling us where THAT BEAST (Satan) resides, in Heaven as we speak, before he gets cast down to earth. In Rev. 13 we are shown where that Beast resides, ON EARTH, because he arises out of the [Mediterranean] Sea. Then in Rev. 13, we are shown where THAT BEAST resides, in the Bottomless Pit. Rev. 15 starts off via a SIGN IN HEAVEN also, because the Angels are readying the 7 Last Vials of God's Wrath............IN HEAVEN !! It has nothing to do with a Horoscope sign that is if Satan.