Are we saved with a "dead" faith?

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I love this one



Again, How can one possibly come to Christ, if they do not know they have sinned and become conscious of that sin? in order to repent and seek Gods grace and forgiveness..

This happens BEFORE one is saved, NOT AFTER..
Yep, the christian knows in their heart they should not Li, steal, kill commit adultery and those who do know it are legalists-right

All you are doing I getting mire and more desperate
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Your embarrassing yourself now.
No, I am not embarrassed..you need to stop puffing yourself up. I am perfectly fine, Because I am basing everything on God and his love and forgiveness. Nothing to be embarrassed about there.
The law being placed within ys means we know how God wants us to live and in our hearts we want to obey.
No. thats not true, God gave us a new heart, A heart empowered by his love and forgiveness, This makes us want to do his will. Not because of some law. Your stuck on law. and when you are shown it, you deny it. yet here you are again being stuck on law.

I didn't say Tha made mw good. So do you not want to obey God in your heart?
How else could one do good in your belief, It must be because God put law in your hears, and made them want to do good (oh wait, thats what you said.. Amazing isnt it,, )
[quot]Your response I frankly very sad. But you will try anything wo nt you because scripturally you have nowhere to go[/QUOTE]

Yeah whatever, keep puffing yourself up. Your the one making yourself look bad.. Because you got hurt that someone questioned your belief system.
 
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Yep, the christian knows in their heart they should not Li, steal, kill commit adultery and those who do know it are legalists-right

All you are doing I getting mire and more desperate
according to paul in romans 1. The non christian knnows in their heart they should not do those things either.

so your stuck in a rut!


Romans 1:
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; [SUP]29 [/SUP]being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality,[SUP][c][/SUP] wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, [SUP]30 [/SUP]backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, [SUP]31 [/SUP]undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving,[SUP][d][/SUP] unmerciful; [SUP]32 [/SUP]who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.




Next!
 
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Put the rep on your list and save it for a future post of mine. :cool:
lol.. honestly, I think I could rep most posts you make sis.. :eek:

sorry if I am coming acrossed as nasty in here this morning, forgive me
 
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according to paul in romans 1. The non christian knnows in their heart they should not do those things either.

so your stuck in a rut!


Romans 1:
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; [SUP]29 [/SUP]being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality,[SUP][c][/SUP] wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, [SUP]30 [/SUP]backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, [SUP]31 [/SUP]undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving,[SUP][d][/SUP] unmerciful; [SUP]32 [/SUP]who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.




Next!
This is the covenant I will make with them after that time says the lord
I will write my laws in their minds and place them on their hearts


I guess Jeremiah and the writer of Hebrews who repeated it got it wrong. But apostle eg is here to tell us the real truth lol
 
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This is the covenant I will make with them after that time says the lord
I will write my laws in their minds and place them on their hearts
Yep.

But that is not saying what you think it is.

God did it by givng them a heart of love, Jesus tried to explain this, but I guess that is to hard to understand. It is called the LAW OF LOVE..



I guess Jeremiah and the writer of Hebrews who repeated it got it wrong. But apostle eg is here to tell us the real truth lol
Nope they did not get it wrong, you are interpreting it wrong, because your stuck on law (commands) . and not Gods character (love.) which is called the law of love.
 

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And lying I cool eh
What's he lying about? I believe he asked you to show PROOF of where he's lied. And you haven't. I know e-g ALOT better and longer than you, and I KNOW he's NOT a liar.
 

mailmandan

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Faith that saves is alive, not dead. Ephesians 2:5 - even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 8 through faith..

A dead faith merely claims to be genuine but demonstrates by the lack of works that it's dead (James 2:14). That is not genuine faith which is alive together with Christ but is an empty profession of faith.
 
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What's he lying about? I believe he asked you to show PROOF of where he's lied. And you haven't. I know e-g ALOT better and longer than you, and I KNOW he's NOT a liar.
I am not perfect either. Thats why I need people like you, Crossnote, Mailmandan, achildofgod and many others to keep on me.. Iron sharpens iron..
 
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What's he lying about? I believe he asked you to show PROOF of where he's lied. And you haven't. I know e-g ALOT better and longer than you, and I KNOW he's NOT a liar.
He's made numerous statements about what I supposedly state and cannot bring any posts of mine forth where what he claims I have stated I have actually dtated
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Faith that saves is alive, not dead. Ephesians 2:5 - even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 8 through faith..

A dead faith merely claims to be genuine but demonstrates by the lack of works that it's dead (James 2:14). That is not genuine faith which is alive together with Christ but is an empty profession of faith.
yes, a dead body can do nothing, it has no power. A dead faith is no different the thing which gives it life is not present. It is useless. It is not faith at all. that is why it will do no work.
 
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Yep.

But that is not saying what you think it is.

God did it by givng them a heart of love, Jesus tried to explain this, but I guess that is to hard to understand. It is called the LAW OF LOVE..





Nope they did not get it wrong, you are interpreting it wrong, because your stuck on law (commands) . and not Gods character (love.) which is called the law of love.
So if a christian bears false witness they are not conscious of sin in regard to lying but because they know they didn't live as they should. Wonder how many would agree with you
Nah, the covenant is worded correctly
 

blue_ladybug

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If faith is dead, then it isn't faith, is it? lol
 
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So if a christian bears false witness they are not conscious of sin in regard to lying but because they know they didn't live as they should. Wonder how many would agree with you
Nah, the covenant is worded correctly
Well many legalists would agree with you. In fact many of them would make an excuse and probably say they were not even lying, they were just saying something to protect someone or whatever lame excuse they give

A true child of God will realize he thought of self. and in that moment put the needs of himself over the needs of the one he lied to. And that would cause him to repent. and turn back to God. (the thought of some command which says do not bear false witness does not even have to come across his mind, it is not even needed)

Your stuck on rules and regulations dude, they will not help you.