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Wow, you look away for two seconds and......So you mean kathryn and gracie seventy seven seven seven hundred and seven times seven hundred and seventyelevendyleven who I kind of suspected was a she but had blue letters were actually, umm, errr, darn, now I forgot what I was getting to.
Anyways, good job and God bless you blondie, utah, mits, kayla, and a host of other bereans defending the truth. I try to hang in and follow along, wish I was a bit quicker on the draw, but one finger fatty here....by the time I get a prayer or a joke typed, 5 ppl have been banned, 10 more have joined, and 15 new catholic threads are going full tilt defending the liberals rights to take guns away from the OSAS-except-sabbath-day-morning-cartoons-only-worshippers cult.
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It's hard to keep up, but God bless yous and thanks, there's still hope.
What am I saying?!?! The Lord Jesus Christ is our Saviour God and King,
Of COURSE there's hope, He already has the victory!
Anyways, good job and God bless you blondie, utah, mits, kayla, and a host of other bereans defending the truth. I try to hang in and follow along, wish I was a bit quicker on the draw, but one finger fatty here....by the time I get a prayer or a joke typed, 5 ppl have been banned, 10 more have joined, and 15 new catholic threads are going full tilt defending the liberals rights to take guns away from the OSAS-except-sabbath-day-morning-cartoons-only-worshippers cult.
.It's hard to keep up, but God bless yous and thanks, there's still hope.
What am I saying?!?! The Lord Jesus Christ is our Saviour God and King,
Of COURSE there's hope, He already has the victory!
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It was just for humor...I thought you guys were done arguing...it wasn't pointed at anyone...
Yes, all believers are overcomers in the eyes of God. We have the tools to overcome in the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit, but whether a believer makes it to spiritual maturity or gains the understanding needed for a right overcoming of spiritual error and strongholds and dies before he gets there, he is still a child of the living God and by his new birth has inherited the Kingdom.
We are not able in our own strength to grasp hold of the Kingdom. It is done in the power of the Holy Spirit at salvation and through submitting oneself to Jesus Christ and the word of God. He is the one who keeps us and works in our lives behind the scenes perpetually. We cannot lose the Kingdom by bad behavior any more than we can gain it by good behavior.
Also, I must add here that not everything we must overcome is based on our sin. Many strongholds are built up in us based on sin perpetrated against us.
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We are not able in our own strength to grasp hold of the Kingdom. It is done in the power of the Holy Spirit at salvation and through submitting oneself to Jesus Christ and the word of God. He is the one who keeps us and works in our lives behind the scenes perpetually. We cannot lose the Kingdom by bad behavior any more than we can gain it by good behavior.
Also, I must add here that not everything we must overcome is based on our sin. Many strongholds are built up in us based on sin perpetrated against us.
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Let me answer that and debunk the erroneous idea that Christians have quit being sinners, with one Bible quote and one observation; since we all know that violating the will of GOD is sinning.
1 Peter 2:13-15 (NKJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake, whether to the king as supreme,
[SUP]14 [/SUP] or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men--
The posted speed limit, most certainly is an ordinance of man.
SHALL I GO ON?
1 Peter 2:13-15 (NKJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake, whether to the king as supreme,
[SUP]14 [/SUP] or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men--
The posted speed limit, most certainly is an ordinance of man.
SHALL I GO ON?
What you believe is exactly what the gnostics believed during the early church period.
Irenaeus in Against Heresies about what gnostics believed
"Animal men, again, are instructed in animal things; such men, namely, as are established by their works, and by a mere faith, while they have not perfect knowledge. We of the Church, they say, are these persons. Wherefore also [the gnostics] maintain that good works are necessary to us, for that otherwise it is impossible we should be saved. But as to themselves, [the gnostics] hold that they shall be entirely and undoubtedly saved, not by means of conduct, but because they are spiritual by nature".
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"On this account, [the gnostics] tell us that it is necessary for us [Christians] whom they call animal men, and describe as being of the world, to practise continence and good works, that by this means we may attain at length to the intermediate habitation [of heaven], but that to [the gnostics] who are called "the spiritual and perfect" such a course of conduct is not at all necessary. For it is not conduct of any kind which leads into the Pleroma [heaven], but the seed sent forth [from heaven] in a feeble, immature state, and here [on earth] brought to perfection".
Irenaeus in Against Heresies about what gnostics believed
"Animal men, again, are instructed in animal things; such men, namely, as are established by their works, and by a mere faith, while they have not perfect knowledge. We of the Church, they say, are these persons. Wherefore also [the gnostics] maintain that good works are necessary to us, for that otherwise it is impossible we should be saved. But as to themselves, [the gnostics] hold that they shall be entirely and undoubtedly saved, not by means of conduct, but because they are spiritual by nature".
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"On this account, [the gnostics] tell us that it is necessary for us [Christians] whom they call animal men, and describe as being of the world, to practise continence and good works, that by this means we may attain at length to the intermediate habitation [of heaven], but that to [the gnostics] who are called "the spiritual and perfect" such a course of conduct is not at all necessary. For it is not conduct of any kind which leads into the Pleroma [heaven], but the seed sent forth [from heaven] in a feeble, immature state, and here [on earth] brought to perfection".
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