Are we sinners?

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Are christians still sinners?

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KennethC

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kathryn said:
How do you think I can have affinity, oneness with other christians belief wise? Only through the holy spirit, there is no other way
Rom 8:9
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The Holy Spirit would not deny those facts about the Lord Jesus Christ !!!

It the spirit that is in you is denying those facts about the Lord I would suggest to quickly go and get prayed over as I will pray for you as well. Because that is the spirit of antichrist, not the Holy Spirit.

He can not deny Himself !!!
 
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kathryn

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Dec 22, 2015
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KennethC said:
The Holy Spirit would not deny those facts about the Lord Jesus Christ !!!

It the spirit that is in you is denying those facts about the Lord I would suggest to quickly go and get prayed over as I will pray for you as well. Because that is the spirit of antichrist, not the Holy Spirit.

He can not deny Himself !!!
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To be honest Kenneth it really doesn't bother me if you consider me a christian or not
However, I feel sorry for you getting led astray like many on the internet do
 
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KennethC

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kathryn said:
Kenneth, for your own sake trust the bible not man for required salvational belief
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I do trust God's word and the Holy Spirit in me that guides me, I am not listening to man.

Each one of those truths can be found in God's word, and in multiple places for that fact.............
 
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KennethC

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kathryn said:
To be honest Kenneth it really doesn't bother me if you consider me a christian or not
However, I feel sorry for you getting led astray like many on the internet do
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I am not just on the internet and use it as my only source.

I have over 6 years of in depth study sessions in the Word of God, and have the Holy Spirit who guides me in His truth as I study.

Jesus being the Son of God, being God, and being the Word of God are all stated clearly in His Holy Word.

Apostle John states this the clearest of all the Apostles or do you deny what John says ???
 
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kathryn

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KennethC said:
I do trust God's word and the Holy Spirit in me that guides me, I am not listening to man.

Each one of those truths can be found in God's word, and in multiple places for that fact.............
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So the holy spirit in you I telling you to reject the words of Christ as to required salvational belief?
 
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KennethC

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kathryn said:
As you appear not to care if ministers preach from the pulpit what to you is required salvational belief this conversation is over
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How many churches in the United States have you been to make such a claim that they don't teach these facts ???

I know of a number of churches here in the U.S. that do teach them because they are the foundation of faith in Christ, and you can not build on the foundation without having the foundation to go from !!!
 
Euphemia

Euphemia

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Dec 5, 2015
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Believers are overcomers in Christ.

KennethC said:
In Revelation 3 and 21 says only those who overcome will inherit, you are saying here that those that don't overcome will still inherit. We should believe the word !!!
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KennethC

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kathryn said:
So the holy spirit in you I telling you to reject the words of Christ as to required salvational belief?
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Where did I ever say to reject Jesus Christ words ???

I am starting to think you are a troll now just trying to seek out and cause strife, people like that usually get banned from here so please thread lightly.
 
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kathryn

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Dec 22, 2015
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KennethC said:
How many churches in the United States have you been to make such a claim that they don't teach these facts ???

I know of a number of churches here in the U.S. that do teach them because they are the foundation of faith in Christ, and you can not build on the foundation without having the foundation to go from !!!
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Then bring me some sermons from mainline churches that state if you believe Jesus is the son of God but not God himself you are condemned to hell( not whacko churches mainline ones)
 
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kathryn

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Dec 22, 2015
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KennethC said:
Where did I ever say to reject Jesus Christ words ???

I am starting to think you are a troll now just trying to seek out and cause strife, people like that usually get banned from here so please thread lightly.
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Who did Jesus say you had to believe him to be to inherit eternal life.
 
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KennethC

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Euphemia said:
Believers are overcomers in Christ.
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You said previously though that those who don't overcome will still go to heaven, now you are saying believers are overcomers in Christ.

That overcoming applies to sinful actions in our lives, the Holy Spirit helps us to overcome and have victory over them so they don't control our lives any more.

The overcoming is not just an inner spiritual action, but it also shows out in our outer actions as well.

How are we to be a light in the world if we still are stuck walking in darkness all the time ??? Can't happen !!!
 
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KennethC

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kathryn said:
Who did Jesus say you had to believe him to be to inherit eternal life.
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Jesus said if you deny Him you have denied the Father, if you deny the Father you have denied Him.

He also said if you deny to help others in need you have denied Him, and if you deny those who were sent by Him you also have denied Him.

The Holy Spirit and the Apostles were sent by Him to give His word, so to deny the Holy Spirit or anything the Apostles said in their epistles would be to deny Christ.

Read Luke 6:46-49 !!!
 
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blondieindahouse

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Jun 23, 2015
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kathryn said:
As you appear not to care if ministers preach from the pulpit what to you is required salvational belief this conversation is over
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Your deflecting again as your father does! Im asking you straight up! You are running from answering me. Why is that? Why cant you tell the truth? Is Jesus God? Yes or no?
 
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kathryn

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Dec 22, 2015
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You know the thing I loved to read you said Grace?

You couldn't remember all of the ten commandments

Neither could I lol before I ventured onto these websites
 
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KennethC

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kathryn said:
Then bring me some sermons from mainline churches that state if you believe Jesus is the son of God but not God himself you are condemned to hell( not whacko churches mainline ones)
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Why would a church say Jesus is the Son of God but not God Himself ???

That is not truth for them to preach that as He is both, and if you deny who Jesus is then you deny the Father its that simple !!!
 
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kathryn

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Dec 22, 2015
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blondieindahouse said:
Your deflecting again as your father does! Im asking you straight up! You are running from answering me. Why is that? Why cant you tell the truth? Is Jesus God? Yes or no?
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I've answered already
You and I both believe the same as to the substance of Christ.
I believe Christ is the son of God, the only true God I the father as Christ himself stated john 17:3
 
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blondieindahouse

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Jun 23, 2015
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KennethC said:
Where did I ever say to reject Jesus Christ words ???

I am starting to think you are a troll now just trying to seek out and cause strife, people like that usually get banned from here so please thread lightly.
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"It" already answered to james when grace"""" said hello! You can find it on the once saved always saved thread! It also said it was here for the eighth time after being banned indefinitly.
 
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blondieindahouse

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Jun 23, 2015
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kathryn said:
I've answered already
You and I both believe the same as to the substance of Christ.
I believe Christ is the son of God, the only true God I the father as Christ himself stated john 17:3
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yes or no! Jesus is God
 
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