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Hevosmies

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WHAAAAAAAATTTTTTT......get on a plane...I have a place for you.....HAHAHAH
Thanks bro!

You are in Australia right? Have you stocked up on food etc? One thing I learned from that TV show doomsday preppers is: DONT bury busses underground and try to live in them lol.
 
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You have left one VERY important clue out of your Formula. The 70th Week of Daniel BEGINS the Moment WHEN we are removed from this EARTH. He was speaking to Jewish Believers about the 70th Week of Daniel, the future Prophecy FOR ISRAEL. If you want to learn more about the 70 Week of Daniel and how it will end, read Zechariah 14.

EVERY REASON, because the Antichrist will make a covenant Peace Treaty with ISRAEL, and at the END OF THAT 7 year treaty, CHRIST COMES BACK TO MAKE WAR ON THE NATIONS. THEREFORE EVERYONE WILL KNOW WHEN THAT TREATY ENDS, because it will be all over the NEWS. REMEMBER NO ONE WILL KNOW THE DAY OR THE HOUR. ONLY PRETRIB FITS THAT.
Hi, I see that differently in regard to how the word antichrist singular, or antichrists plural work seeing they have a different functions

The question I would ask is, which Israel seeing all Israel is not the same Israel ? This seeing God uses the word Israel in two ways. (#1) those who have the Spirit of Christ in them called Emanuel , meaning God with us, as the bride of Christ which in the book of Acts he named "Christian" ..... denoting residents of the City of Christ named after her founder, Christ the husband. The saints on the other side of the cross having the same excellency in their bodies of death as us today... "Emmanuel"

And the other(#2) Israel natural unconverted man as a gentle.

2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

God named Jacob at birth a word meaning "deceiver" later his name was name was changed to "Israel" meaning as member of the kingdom of priests a prince(God calls us kings) a person that has power with God and with men, and has prevailed through Emmanuel ...God with us.

Genesis 32:27-29 King James Version (KJV) And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob. And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there.

Scriptures reveals many antichrists were there at the time 1 John was written .The Jews that denied Christ had come in the flesh as the fulfillment of prophecy are considered antichrists . I think today they might find some of the extreme groups that say a person must become a outward Jew and must be taught by man seen, relating to the flesh of a nation.... before they can be a member of the bride of Christ.

The veil is still rent.

They that refused to hear all things written in the law and the prophets as God's word to men as that needed to hear the gospel just as their gentile brothers God putting no difference between a Jew and a gentile purifying the hearts of both by a work of his faithfulness . I believe that is what the Holy Spirit is informing us of.

Acts 15:8-10 King James Version (KJV) And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

The time of reformation came two thousands years ago a "great tribulation" for a outward Jew trusting in his flesh one like ever before, or ever again .

1 John 2:21-23 King James Version (KJV) I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

They rejected both the father and the son in exchange for the oral traditions of men called a law of the fathers( Acts 22:3. )A law that made the law of our one Father in heaven to no effect.
 
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Thanks bro!

You are in Australia right? Have you stocked up on food etc? One thing I learned from that TV show doomsday preppers is: DONT bury busses underground and try to live in them lol.
No.... am in the U.S.....many trips to Australia......have 50 acres in Missouri in Mark Twain National Forest...you can google....on a spring fed creek and about 35 k to nearest town population 2500.......HAHHA
 

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Yes I was aware of it. I saw it a few weeks ago when it came back up. I am Christian and always have been but being a mixture of Iberian and Hebrew by race I have a more Orthodox mind about the state of Israel. I'm not sure if you have heard of Haredim and Zionism and see the difference between them but I don't agree that the state of Israel will be what many think.

In short I think that the earth took a nation that God removed from power in ad70 and sat it back up thinking that they were suppose to and in fact who will rise in it is the man of sin. I do believe that the New Jerusalem will descend as the Scripture states but also that mankind created an image of the one God had removed in 1948 and that in error many Christians worship it and will take the man of sins mark thinking they are being sealed by God instead.

Again I am Christian by faith and always have been and so also believe the New Jerusalem will descend to the earth and I await it.

GOD keeps HIS PROMISES and He promised there would always be descendants of ISRAEL.

The 144,000 an equal number from each Tribe, will be Sealed from Harm in each of their MORTAL BODIES, to repopulate ISRAEL. That is because the WORLD's Armies under the Antichrist, will annihilate them, ONLY the 144,000 will escape through the VALLEY, when the LORD SETS FOOT on the Mt. of OLIVES, see Zechariah 14.

HE promises those that LOVE HIM will exist for a 1000 Generations. Most of the time that represents INFINITY. But even if that is Literal, it could be 75,000 YEARS.


Exodus 20:6 (HCSB)
6 but showing faithful love to a thousand ⌊generations⌋ of those who love Me and keep My commands.

Exodus 34:6-7 (HCSB)
6 Then the LORD passed in front of him and proclaimed: Yahweh—Yahweh is a compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger and rich in faithful love and truth,
7 maintaining faithful love to a thousand ⌊generations⌋, forgiving wrongdoing, rebellion, and sin. But He will not leave ⌊the guilty⌋ unpunished, bringing the consequences of the fathers’ wrongdoing on the children and grandchildren to the third and fourth generation.

1 Chronicles 16:15-18 (HCSB)
15 Remember His covenant forever— the promise He ordained for a thousand generations,
16 ⌊the covenant⌋ He made with Abraham, swore to Isaac,
17 and confirmed to Jacob as a decree, and to Israel as an everlasting covenant:
18 “I will give the land of Canaan to you as your inherited portion.”


AS YOU CAN SEE, Mortal Israelites will inhabit the LAND throughout the entire 1000 Year KINGDOM.

We will be there and reign as PRIESTS in our IMMORTAL BODIES.
 

Hevosmies

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About the 144 000 ^

Has anyone noticed ONE TRIBE is NOT mentioned? The tribe of DAN.
 

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Hi, I see that differently in regard to how the word antichrist singular, or antichrists plural work seeing they have a different functions

The question I would ask is, which Israel seeing all Israel is not the same Israel ? This seeing God uses the word Israel in two ways. (#1) those who have the Spirit of Christ in them called Emanuel , meaning God with us, as the bride of Christ which in the book of Acts he named "Christian" ..... denoting residents of the City of Christ named after her founder, Christ the husband. The saints on the other side of the cross having the same excellency in their bodies of death as us today... "Emmanuel"

And the other(#2) Israel natural unconverted man as a gentle.

2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

God named Jacob at birth a word meaning "deceiver" later his name was name was changed to "Israel" meaning as member of the kingdom of priests a prince(God calls us kings) a person that has power with God and with men, and has prevailed through Emmanuel ...God with us.

Genesis 32:27-29 King James Version (KJV) And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob. And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there.

Scriptures reveals many antichrists were there at the time 1 John was written .The Jews that denied Christ had come in the flesh as the fulfillment of prophecy are considered antichrists . I think today they might find some of the extreme groups that say a person must become a outward Jew and must be taught by man seen, relating to the flesh of a nation.... before they can be a member of the bride of Christ.

The veil is still rent.

They that refused to hear all things written in the law and the prophets as God's word to men as that needed to hear the gospel just as their gentile brothers God putting no difference between a Jew and a gentile purifying the hearts of both by a work of his faithfulness . I believe that is what the Holy Spirit is informing us of.

Acts 15:8-10 King James Version (KJV) And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

The time of reformation came two thousands years ago a "great tribulation" for a outward Jew trusting in his flesh one like ever before, or ever again .

1 John 2:21-23 King James Version (KJV) I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

They rejected both the father and the son in exchange for the oral traditions of men called a law of the fathers( Acts 22:3. )A law that made the law of our one Father in heaven to no effect.
Malachi 3:6 (NRSV)
6 For I the LORD do not change;
therefore you, O children of Jacob, have not perished.

Genesis 45:7 (CSBBible)
7 God sent me ahead of you to establish you as a remnant within the land and to keep you alive by a great deliverance.

2 Kings 19:30-31 (ASV)
30 And the remnant that is escaped of the house of Judah shall again take root downward, and bear fruit upward.
31 For out of Jerusalem shall go forth a remnant, and out of mount Zion they that shall escape: the zeal of Jehovah shall perform this.

Isaiah 10:20-22 (HCSB)
20 On that day the remnant of Israel and the survivors of the house of Jacob will no longer depend on the one who struck them, but they will faithfully depend on the LORD, the Holy One of Israel.
21 The remnant will return, the remnant of Jacob, to the Mighty God.
22 Israel, even if your people were as numerous as the sand of the sea, ⌊only⌋ a remnant of them will return. Destruction has been decreed; justice overflows.

Zechariah 8:12 (HCSB)
12 “For they will sow in peace: the vine will yield its fruit, the land will yield its produce, and the skies will yield their dew. I will give the remnant of this people all these things as an inheritance.

Psalm 103:9 (HCSB)
9 He will not always accuse ⌊us⌋ or be angry forever.

Jeremiah 3:12 (ESV)
12 Go, and proclaim these words toward the north, and say, “‘Return, faithless Israel, declares the LORD. I will not look on you in anger, for I am merciful, declares the LORD; I will not be angry forever.

Micah 7:18 (NIV)
18 Who is a God like you, who pardons sin and forgives the transgression of the remnant of his inheritance? You do not stay angry forever but delight to show mercy.


GOD IS NOT FINISHED WITH ISRAEL!
 

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GOD keeps HIS PROMISES and He promised there would always be descendants of ISRAEL.

The 144,000 an equal number from each Tribe, will be Sealed from Harm in each of their MORTAL BODIES, to repopulate ISRAEL. That is because the WORLD's Armies under the Antichrist, will annihilate them, ONLY the 144,000 will escape through the VALLEY, when the LORD SETS FOOT on the Mt. of OLIVES, see Zechariah 14.

HE promises those that LOVE HIM will exist for a 1000 Generations. Most of the time that represents INFINITY. But even if that is Literal, it could be 75,000 YEARS.


Exodus 20:6 (HCSB)
6 but showing faithful love to a thousand ⌊generations⌋ of those who love Me and keep My commands.

Exodus 34:6-7 (HCSB)
6 Then the LORD passed in front of him and proclaimed: Yahweh—Yahweh is a compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger and rich in faithful love and truth,
7 maintaining faithful love to a thousand ⌊generations⌋, forgiving wrongdoing, rebellion, and sin. But He will not leave ⌊the guilty⌋ unpunished, bringing the consequences of the fathers’ wrongdoing on the children and grandchildren to the third and fourth generation.

1 Chronicles 16:15-18 (HCSB)
15 Remember His covenant forever— the promise He ordained for a thousand generations,
16 ⌊the covenant⌋ He made with Abraham, swore to Isaac,
17 and confirmed to Jacob as a decree, and to Israel as an everlasting covenant:
18 “I will give the land of Canaan to you as your inherited portion.”


AS YOU CAN SEE, Mortal Israelites will inhabit the LAND throughout the entire 1000 Year KINGDOM.

We will be there and reign as PRIESTS in our IMMORTAL BODIES.

lol, I think you misunderstood what I said considering your response do you know the views of Zionism and Haredim(Orthodox)? I am neither of the two I am Christian. Why I'm asking is based on the way you word things.

The Jews have as many "camps" in Judaism as we do in Christianity and so for instance "Haredim" (orthodox) are against the government type "state of Israel". The groups(several) that are "Orthodox" want a religious type theocracy(religious state) run by the Sanhedrin and desire to reestablish it.

Zionism is basically the same type government with an elected president,prime minister ect.(has nothing to do with religion) and is in power in the state of Israel now. The Orthodox camps/parties do not have enough support to win an election and don't think(most of them) that they are suppose to but instead wait for their Messiah to come and build the temple(other details I left out also). So kind of like in Samuel when they ask for a "king like the other nations" they have a political government with a prime minister at present.
 

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You have left one VERY important clue out of your Formula. The 70th Week of Daniel BEGINS the Moment WHEN we are removed from this EARTH. He was speaking to Jewish Believers about the 70th Week of Daniel, the future Prophecy FOR ISRAEL. If you want to learn more about the 70 Week of Daniel and how it will end, read Zechariah 14.

EVERY REASON, because the Antichrist will make a covenant Peace Treaty with ISRAEL, and at the END OF THAT 7 year treaty, CHRIST COMES BACK TO MAKE WAR ON THE NATIONS. THEREFORE EVERYONE WILL KNOW WHEN THAT TREATY ENDS, because it will be all over the NEWS. REMEMBER NO ONE WILL KNOW THE DAY OR THE HOUR. ONLY PRETRIB FITS THAT.



Even in Daniel chapter 12, Daniels dream includes the man standing on the water in white linen (we know Him as Yeshua our Lord and Savior). He (Yeshua our Lord and Savior) instructs Daniel of 2 time frames. One is the first 3 1/2 years of Tribulation, and the other is the second half.

Daniel 12:
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And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

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Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.


Verse 11 is the FIRST HALF of TRIBULATION. This is when the antichrist stops daily sacrifice and makes himself known as (G)od.

Verse 12 is the SECOND HALF of TRIBULATION. Notice what Yeshua claims about the second half. Blesses is he that waits and comes to the second half pf Tribulation.

Even in Daniel, Yeshua is showing Daniel the saved will be in the Tribulation, and will be considered blessed to make it to the second half of Tribulation.



The more you post, the clearer and obvious it is that you don't actually understand scripture at all.

I'm willing to bet (you won't admit it however), your idealism is not your own but is a family thing your grandparents believed, passed it down to your parents, and now you are trying push those wrong ideas onto me!!
 

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Back to the beginning, NO PROBLEM. I grew up with no running water in the house, and I REMEMBER HOW COLD THOSE BOARDS IN THE OUT HOUSE FELT. I remember what we used before we could afford TP. Pages Out of the old SEARS & ROEBUCK"S CATALOG. And even had to use Corncobs a few times. I know what it is LIKE to HAVE TO Hunt and Fish for Food; and I still have a bow in my closet, and have MADE MY OWN ARROWS SEVERAL TIMES. You will be the one in trouble, not me. HOWEVER, I am absolutely sure, GOD KEEPS HIS PROMISES:


Revelation 3:10 (GW)
10 Because you have obeyed my command to endure, I will keep you safe during the time of testing which is coming to the whole world to test those living on earth.


SURPRISE, WE WILL NOT BE LIVING ON THE EARTH AT THAT TIME.

I am a hillbilly redneck and a farmer who works in a machine shop. Hunting is my life, wildlife is my passion, and I am surrounded by 75 15k teeners...that is peeks of mountains over 15,000 feet. This does not include my training, per our wonderful government. I ain't worried about a thing, CornCob!!
 

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No.... am in the U.S.....many trips to Australia......have 50 acres in Missouri in Mark Twain National Forest...you can google....on a spring fed creek and about 35 k to nearest town population 2500.......HAHHA

Just a short story because your a Marine and will think it's funny,,,

Several years back a tornado came real close to my house(Made the walls move like waves). I told my wife that night I was going to dig a tornado seller right beside the back porch and when I got off work the next day her and my sons were about 3 feet in a 20x7 hole,lol

I used cross ties and telephone poles for the roof,with 3 feet of dirt on top sloped over 6mil plastic so water would run around it instead of in it. I/we ordered sand bags,lined the inside with 6mil plastic and it was angled to so my septic line went through the corner and h2o pipes went through the other. We wired it with ac/dc and then I went to army surplus and got nbc screw on gas mask filters and set it up with air over pressure.

In about three weeks Fort Polk picked it up and circled us with several Apaches and a little friend,lol they don't realize how quick the military could find them do they?lol
 

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You might be on to something here. A few years back, my son and I were praying and Holy Spirit spoke these words, "A storm is coming, Saturn." I've not yet been able to see what this entails, but did recently find out that the Star of David is occultic. Was very surprised to say the least! It has to do with the god of Saturn and idolatry.

And also...the true symbol of Israel is the menorah. Lots more to this and am sure much yet to see.

Islam?
I heard in some islamic countries they behead anyone who does not believe Allah and christians are treated the worst.

The star of david symbol, a hexagram, is also used in hinduism. It represents some chakra or other...I wont go into it, but it does have occult origins. I'm very distrubed that the flag of Israel features this symbol or mark. Zionism seems a bit of a set up.

In the Bible the promised land is not goi g to be called Israel. Its going to be named Beulah. See Isaiah 62:4
 

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between ad66-70 when the Jews revolted against Nero and minted their own coins who other than them were left to have taken it? Just curious since we know they didn't buy and sell with Nero's money(minted their own) and it would be hard to think they worshiped his image when they revolted against him.
Nero persecuted Christians. He blamed them for setting fire to Rome. He also had a 100 foot high statue of himself set up in Rome and was planning to have another one put in the Jerusalem Temple but died in AD68 before this was achieved. He was the first Emperor to make the worship of himself compulsory. Before this Emperor worship was a matter of personal choice. Revelation was addressed to
seven Churches in Asia not Judea. I doubt that the Zealots taking part in the revolt would have read it even if they had a copy. According to Eusebius Christians fled Jerusalem obeying Christs warning in Matthew 24.
 

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Nero persecuted Christians. He blamed them for setting fire to Rome. He also had a 100 foot high statue of himself set up in Rome and was planning to have another one put in the Jerusalem Temple but died in AD68 before this was achieved. He was the first Emperor to make the worship of himself compulsory. Before this Emperor worship was a matter of personal choice. Revelation was addressed to
seven Churches in Asia not Judea. I doubt that the Zealots taking part in the revolt would have read it even if they had a copy. According to Eusebius Christians fled Jerusalem obeying Christs warning in Matthew 24.

So you realize then that the Jews revolted and refused to worship Nero and minted their own money and not Romes? If so then they(Jews in the siege) did not fulfill Revelation 13 by receiving his mark to buy and sell with nor worship his image.
 

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I am a hillbilly redneck and a farmer who works in a machine shop. Hunting is my life, wildlife is my passion, and I am surrounded by 75 15k teeners...that is peeks of mountains over 15,000 feet. This does not include my training, per our wonderful government. I ain't worried about a thing, CornCob!!

Okay, I am convinced you KNOW HOW TO SURVIVE in the wild.
 

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lol, I'm 84 years old and so I'm gonna stay behind and buy you all as much time as I can HOOAH!!!
 

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If im going through the tribulation my plan is dying.

I got no interest in playing doomsday survival.

I hear you, BUT I AM CONVINCED IF YOU READ my The Calling Out Of The Bride thread, you are going with us to the Wedding of the Lamb. The only reason is I said that about my bow and that I know how to make arrows, was IF THE LORD Put it on my HEART to Save a Few More, I could survive. No matter how many SCOFFERS come, they will NEVER GET ME TO DOUBT in the REALITY of a PRETRIB RAPTURE.



2 Peter 3:3-4 (HCSB)
3 First, be aware of this: Scoffers will come in the last days to scoff, living according to their own desires,
4 saying, Where is the promise of His coming? Ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they have been since the beginning of creation.”
 

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READY OR NOT, JESUS OUR BRIDEGROOM IS COMING!


 

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