ARE WE THERE YET? 666

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Locoponydirtman

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lol. Which would work to explain those after the television was invented but not those from the first century until the tv who only had the Bible.
I don't think that in the first century they were talking about micro chips, and crypto currency type of money.
 
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I don't think that in the first century they were talking about micro chips, and crypto currency type of money.
No, but they were being led and inspired to write of what was coming.....even Daniel did not fully comprehend what he was being inspired to pen and or seeing in visions.....
 

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obedienttogod

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Have it your way then, and you will find you have to go through Tribulation. ONLY THOSE WHO ARE READY FOR THE BRIDEGROOM when HE COMES, will be Caught Up to go the Wedding. IF YOUR THEORY WAS REMOTELY CORRECT, I COULD WAIT UNTIL THOSE EVENTS TOOK PLACE TO GET READY? WRONG, because HE TOLD EVERYONE TO GET READY STARTING NOW!

Matthew 25:1-13 (ESV)
1 “Then the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went to meet the bridegroom.
2 Five of them were foolish, and five were wise.
3 For when the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil with them,
4 but the wise took flasks of oil with their lamps.
5 As the bridegroom was delayed, they all became drowsy and slept.
6 But at midnight there was a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Come out to meet him.’
7 Then all those virgins rose and trimmed their lamps.
8 And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’
9 But the wise answered, saying, ‘Since there will not be enough for us and for you, go rather to the dealers and buy for yourselves.’
10 And while they were going to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast, and the door was shut.
11 Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, lord, open to us.’
12 But he answered, ‘Truly, I say to you, I do not know you.’
13 Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.


Matthew 24:44 (HCSB)
44 This is why you also must be ready, because the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.



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I KEEPS READY !

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Being ready to meet Christ and preparing like it is possible we could go through the Tribulation does not interfere with one another, it just means you are prepared for anything. And just because I see God explaining that we will go through the Tribulation, does not mean, If He comes before Tribulation that I won't go with Him at that time. Just like it means, you believe in the pre-trib, but if God comes post trib, you will go through the Tribulation whether you like it or not!!

God is not a respecter of persons. What is going to happen to one, is going to happen to everyone, who is saved.

So threaten me with your propaganda all you like, my only suggestion to you is this...stock up on toilet paper and kleenex. When we go through the Tribulation, you will need these items the moment reality sets in for ya!!
 

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So threaten me with your propaganda all you like, my only suggestion to you is this...stock up on toilet paper and kleenex. When we go through the Tribulation, you will need these items the moment reality sets in for ya!!
If im going through the tribulation my plan is dying.

I got no interest in playing doomsday survival.
 

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Excellent point you are making.

The one thing I ask anyone who believes that Enoch, Daniel, Matthew, and Revelation's were written about the 68-70 A.D. Destruction, is we know much of this history from the point of view of Josephus, the Jewish Historian. And Revelation's speaks of one specific event, that if Josephus DOES NOT MENTION, then what happened in 68-70 A.D. was NOT the event spoken in the Bible.

That one specific event, the TWO WITNESSES!!

This particular event takes place for a grand total of 1,263 1/2 days

Revelation 11:
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And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.


Now, within a TWO YEAR period between 68 A.D. and 70 A.D, the total of 1,263 1/2 days is extremely SIGNIFICANT.
Why significant?

TWO YEARS = 730 DAYS
1,263 1/2 days = THREE YEARS AND 5 MONTHS

This means the TWO WITNESSES would have been there longer than the actual war lasted. And some how, between those TWO YEARS, the TWO WITNESSES are to be killed and rise again after 3 1/2 days.

So, it would be IMPOSSIBLE for Josephus to not have noticed this event. It would have been impossible for anyone to not have noticed this event. So IMPOSSIBLE, that we know it did not take place during the Destruction in 68-70 A.D.


Cracks me up when I present these facts to those who believe Revelation was speaking about the 68-70 A.D. Destruction. It's like they don't comprehend that if the Bible claims these witnesses were here for 1,263 1/2 days, to divide that by 365 (a one years time), it gives you 3 years and 5 months. Which 3 years and 5 months, is 1 year and 5 months LONGER than the entire 2 year Destruction between 68-70 A.D.!!


Everything is FUTURE From Rev. 4:1 ON.
 

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If im going through the tribulation my plan is dying.

I got no interest in playing doomsday survival.


I figure ultimately, I am going to die myself. But, I also believe, since I have been studying and have this urgency about certain subject matters concerning scripture and the end time (plus what I see happening in our technology). That I am going to do my best with God's help to steal possible sinners away from Satan.

Here is the key to all of this, in my opinion.

The reason there won't be any pre-trib happening, is because God has given all of us ample time to choose Him or the world. And if suddenly, a couple billion people just vanish from the planet, it gives these people who continue to deny God a real clue what is happening. And since we know in the last days even the saved will "fall away and a great delusion will take place, that means even the sinners will be even more deluded."

And revealing a Second Coming before the Tribulation begins, would break this delusion. And I do not see God doing that at all!!
 

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Not to dimiss the OP but have you considered the mark to be a symbol like for example the star of david that the jews had to wear and they couldnt buy or sell cos they had this symbol on them, which they were forced to wear for ID purposes. . And then they were put in the ovens in the holocaust...yea that really happened.

The star of david is shown to be actually an occult symbol. It has six sides adding up to 666. Orignally it was solomons seal and he apparently got into witchcraft and sorcery and was obssesed with money.
You might be on to something here. A few years back, my son and I were praying and Holy Spirit spoke these words, "A storm is coming, Saturn." I've not yet been able to see what this entails, but did recently find out that the Star of David is occultic. Was very surprised to say the least! It has to do with the god of Saturn and idolatry.

And also...the true symbol of Israel is the menorah. Lots more to this and am sure much yet to see.

Islam?
 

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Being ready to meet Christ and preparing like it is possible we could go through the Tribulation does not interfere with one another, it just means you are prepared for anything. And just because I see God explaining that we will go through the Tribulation, does not mean, If He comes before Tribulation that I won't go with Him at that time. Just like it means, you believe in the pre-trib, but if God comes post trib, you will go through the Tribulation whether you like it or not!!

God is not a respecter of persons. What is going to happen to one, is going to happen to everyone, who is saved.

So threaten me with your propaganda all you like, my only suggestion to you is this...stock up on toilet paper and kleenex. When we go through the Tribulation, you will need these items the moment reality sets in for ya!!

You are one that always thinks that glass is half empty, instead of half full, am I right?

You said that totally backwards. When you totally trust the LORD for everything, you will expect him to send the Archangel to CALL US OUT TO GO TO THE WEDDING OF THE LAMB, AT AT ANY MOMENT; THEREFORE YOU WILL ALWAYS BE READY WHEN WE HEAR THAT TRUMPET AND THE SHOUT:

Matthew 25:6 (HCSB)
6 “In the middle of the night there was a shout: ‘Here’s the groom! Come out to meet him.’


2 Peter 3:3-4 (HCSB)
3 First, be aware of this: Scoffers will come in the last days to scoff, living according to their own desires,
4 saying, Where is the promise of His coming? Ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they have been since the beginning of creation.”
 

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Outside what Yeshua personally told us in Matthew 24, this is my other reason to believe there will be NO PRE-TRIB taking place...



Here is the key to all of this, in my opinion.

The reason there won't be any pre-trib happening, is because God has given all of us ample time to choose Him or the world. And if suddenly, a couple billion people just vanish from the planet, it gives these people who continue to deny God a real clue what is happening. And since we know in the last days even the saved will "fall away and a great delusion will take place, that means even the sinners will be even more deluded."

And revealing a Second Coming before the Tribulation begins, would break this delusion. And I do not see God doing that at all
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obedienttogod

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You are one that always thinks that glass is half empty, instead of half full, am I right?

You said that totally backwards. When you totally trust the LORD for everything, you will expect him to send the Archangel to CALL US OUT TO GO TO THE WEDDING OF THE LAMB, AT AT ANY MOMENT; THEREFORE YOU WILL ALWAYS BE READY WHEN WE HEAR THAT TRUMPET AND THE SHOUT:

Matthew 25:6 (HCSB)
6 “In the middle of the night there was a shout: ‘Here’s the groom! Come out to meet him.’


2 Peter 3:3-4 (HCSB)
3 First, be aware of this: Scoffers will come in the last days to scoff, living according to their own desires,
4 saying, Where is the promise of His coming? Ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they have been since the beginning of creation.”


You really struggle in being able to identify people!! Might also be why, you believe the Holy Spirit personally told you pre-trib.

But here is why there will be NO PRE-TRIB:

Here is the key to all of this, in my opinion.

The reason there won't be any pre-trib happening, is because God has given all of us ample time to choose Him or the world. And if suddenly, a couple billion people just vanish from the planet, it gives these people who continue to deny God a real clue what is happening. And since we know in the last days even the saved will "fall away and a great delusion will take place, that means even the sinners will be even more deluded."

And revealing a Second Coming before the Tribulation begins, would break this delusion. And I do not see God doing that at all!!
 

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I don't think that in the first century they were talking about micro chips, and crypto currency type of money.
Me either...That's why I said it would apply possibly to the ones after the invention of tv(many do only know what was on tv of the subject or from somebody talking about it). Those from the first century onward up until the invention of radio,tv ect. would not have had a clue about rfid,cryptocurrency ect.
 

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Outside what Yeshua personally told us in Matthew 24, this is my other reason to believe there will be NO PRE-TRIB taking place...



Here is the key to all of this, in my opinion.

The reason there won't be any pre-trib happening, is because God has given all of us ample time to choose Him or the world. And if suddenly, a couple billion people just vanish from the planet, it gives these people who continue to deny God a real clue what is happening. And since we know in the last days even the saved will "fall away and a great delusion will take place, that means even the sinners will be even more deluded."

And revealing a Second Coming before the Tribulation begins, would break this delusion. And I do not see God doing that at all!!

You have left one VERY important clue out of your Formula. The 70th Week of Daniel BEGINS the Moment WHEN we are removed from this EARTH. He was speaking to Jewish Believers about the 70th Week of Daniel, the future Prophecy FOR ISRAEL. If you want to learn more about the 70 Week of Daniel and how it will end, read Zechariah 14.

EVERY REASON, because the Antichrist will make a covenant Peace Treaty with ISRAEL, and at the END OF THAT 7 year treaty, CHRIST COMES BACK TO MAKE WAR ON THE NATIONS. THEREFORE EVERYONE WILL KNOW WHEN THAT TREATY ENDS, because it will be all over the NEWS. REMEMBER NO ONE WILL KNOW THE DAY OR THE HOUR. ONLY PRETRIB FITS THAT.
 

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Here is a Thread that I started Jul 17th, 2017, that may be an eye opener, if you have not already seen it:

https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/third-temple-news.155526/
Yes I was aware of it. I saw it a few weeks ago when it came back up. I am Christian and always have been but being a mixture of Iberian and Hebrew by race I have a more Orthodox mind about the state of Israel. I'm not sure if you have heard of Haredim and Zionism and see the difference between them but I don't agree that the state of Israel will be what many think.

In short I think that the earth took a nation that God removed from power in ad70 and sat it back up thinking that they were suppose to and in fact who will rise in it is the man of sin. I do believe that the New Jerusalem will descend as the Scripture states but also that mankind created an image of the one God had removed in 1948 and that in error many Christians worship it and will take the man of sins mark thinking they are being sealed by God instead.

Again I am Christian by faith and always have been and so also believe the New Jerusalem will descend to the earth and I await it.
 
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Y'all watch too many sci-fi flix, or those miserable left behind atrocities.
I would agree . The idea of waiting two thousand years for technology to advance in order to reveal the mystery of the metaphorical number 666, the number of man as a sign some could seek after in to avoid walking by faith would make good sci fi stuff.

666 is not the patent number of chip technology .

When John said those words in Revelation I am sure he understood what they revealed .Which would refer to the sign of Cain a marked man who refused to buy spiritual truth and not sell it from the father of spirits. The punishment inflicted on him was more than he could bear as that which Christ alone could ,

Proverbs 23:23 King James Version (KJV) Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding

The buying and selling was not some sort of threat from the Holy Spirit to stock up on groceries as if we were concern our selves with the things of this world . We walk by faith and do not chase after a electronic signs and wonders gospel ,not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:


Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:
 

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So threaten me with your propaganda all you like, my only suggestion to you is this...stock up on toilet paper and kleenex. When we go through the Tribulation, you will need these items the moment reality sets in for ya!!
Back to the beginning, NO PROBLEM. I grew up with no running water in the house, and I REMEMBER HOW COLD THOSE BOARDS IN THE OUT HOUSE FELT. I remember what we used before we could afford TP. Pages Out of the old SEARS & ROEBUCK"S CATALOG. And even had to use Corncobs a few times. I know what it is LIKE to HAVE TO Hunt and Fish for Food; and I still have a bow in my closet, and have MADE MY OWN ARROWS SEVERAL TIMES. You will be the one in trouble, not me. HOWEVER, I am absolutely sure, GOD KEEPS HIS PROMISES:


Revelation 3:10 (GW)
10 Because you have obeyed my command to endure, I will keep you safe during the time of testing which is coming to the whole world to test those living on earth.


SURPRISE, WE WILL NOT BE LIVING ON THE EARTH AT THAT TIME.
 
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The word KEEP means to protect or guard from loss or harm.....NOT remove.....................what about the other 6 churches.....No such thing as a SPLIT rapture........so............