Context of the singlular reference n scripture regarding head coverings , is when speaking out in prayer or prophecy. No mention of worship at all in that related passage.
4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.
5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head.
Now, you can claim it is silent or private prayer if you like, we can't prove it one way or the other, but we can't claim prophecy is silent or private. It is from the root word meaning to bring forth - and the context of 1 cor 11 is in the assembly.
There is no mention of "Worship" in the context at all.
Perhaps better to pretend it does not exist if using whilst "proving" your point about women being silent.
Also many of the same people would argue that prophesy has NOW ceased... and that a womans prayer is to be silent in church NOW.
So IF the woman cannot speak - PRAY or PROPHESY (teach or speak out the word of God), why is she wearing a head covering again? Once more, Worship isn't mentioned in the verse or context.
Personally I have zero issue with being silent, I do understand how many perceive certain verses, and why many disagree on this matter also - using scripture - and I do not argue both sides appear to be right there in the text.
I do find it odd that the same people demanding others hold to their view - or claim they are not observing the scripture if they do not. often totally ignore the context of the singular mention of when women should wear a head covering.
Of all the verses, this portion is pretty straight forward and the least confusing. It plainly says what it says and needs no explanation to be understood. It may appear to be contradictory, but that s because we are flawed, not the text. If we have to throw out a verse to keep our standpoint, or twist and complicate it awkwardly to get around the fact it just doesn't line up with our conclusions, we really need to be less dogmatic about those conclusions.
Divisions arise when we become divisive with scripture and quote what agrees with us, and we dismiss or try to nullify what disagrees with our way of understanding.
Worse still, we try to twist it to our narrative, to make it seem as if it proves our point somehow. Eek, and we have all done it even if we do not realise it. Myself included of course. Perhaps it is unwittingly, and perhaps we do it sincerely believing know what we are talking about, regardless of the fact we don't have it all right all the time.
It would be much nicer if we could say on such occasions, the scriptures say this... I take that to mean this.... but I confess I don't know why this other verse says this... It seems not to entirely line up with the understanding I got from the other few scriptures on the issue, but given it is just a singular verse, my reasoning is the my view is the best conclusion I can come up with personally.
I have said my piece and I know it won't please everyone, but so be it. This issue is a divisive topic and I think the best we can do is agree to disagree where there are verses that don't fit either narrative, as is so often the case.
Hope it stays amicable.
God bless y'all
4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.
5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head.
Now, you can claim it is silent or private prayer if you like, we can't prove it one way or the other, but we can't claim prophecy is silent or private. It is from the root word meaning to bring forth - and the context of 1 cor 11 is in the assembly.
There is no mention of "Worship" in the context at all.
Perhaps better to pretend it does not exist if using whilst "proving" your point about women being silent.
Also many of the same people would argue that prophesy has NOW ceased... and that a womans prayer is to be silent in church NOW.
So IF the woman cannot speak - PRAY or PROPHESY (teach or speak out the word of God), why is she wearing a head covering again? Once more, Worship isn't mentioned in the verse or context.
Personally I have zero issue with being silent, I do understand how many perceive certain verses, and why many disagree on this matter also - using scripture - and I do not argue both sides appear to be right there in the text.
I do find it odd that the same people demanding others hold to their view - or claim they are not observing the scripture if they do not. often totally ignore the context of the singular mention of when women should wear a head covering.
Of all the verses, this portion is pretty straight forward and the least confusing. It plainly says what it says and needs no explanation to be understood. It may appear to be contradictory, but that s because we are flawed, not the text. If we have to throw out a verse to keep our standpoint, or twist and complicate it awkwardly to get around the fact it just doesn't line up with our conclusions, we really need to be less dogmatic about those conclusions.
Divisions arise when we become divisive with scripture and quote what agrees with us, and we dismiss or try to nullify what disagrees with our way of understanding.
Worse still, we try to twist it to our narrative, to make it seem as if it proves our point somehow. Eek, and we have all done it even if we do not realise it. Myself included of course. Perhaps it is unwittingly, and perhaps we do it sincerely believing know what we are talking about, regardless of the fact we don't have it all right all the time.
It would be much nicer if we could say on such occasions, the scriptures say this... I take that to mean this.... but I confess I don't know why this other verse says this... It seems not to entirely line up with the understanding I got from the other few scriptures on the issue, but given it is just a singular verse, my reasoning is the my view is the best conclusion I can come up with personally.
I have said my piece and I know it won't please everyone, but so be it. This issue is a divisive topic and I think the best we can do is agree to disagree where there are verses that don't fit either narrative, as is so often the case.
Hope it stays amicable.
God bless y'all
It's true, under that line of reasoning a woman could not prophesy in a congregation or anywhere.