Are WOMEN Pastors Biblical??

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cv5

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Which verse is that? It seems to be missing from my Bible... and every Bible I've seen.
No, it's only missing from your heart and your mind. An extremely grave and serious matter. I would urge you to find out what the parable of the soils is all about. And how you would identify with it.
 

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1Tim 2:12
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
is woman here a wife or women in General?

PICJAG, 101G
 

cv5

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(Those who Are Infected) given over to the leaven of the Pharisees? :eek:

Strong words for a person who openly defies Gods clear words in disobedience, and your not alone.

Silence, Subjection, Obedience

1 Timothy 2:11-14KJV
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

1 Corinthians 14:33-35KJV
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 Timothy 3:-3-5KJV
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
Absolutely crystal-clear. Far too many times rebellion is the rule rather than the exception in the Church today.
 

101G

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Absolutely crystal-clear.
if it's so clear, is the term woman, here in 1 Timothy 2:12 "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."

is this woman applies to all women in general? yes or no

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101G

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to Truth7t7, you can answer, also, since both of you agree....
if it's so clear, is the term woman, here in 1 Timothy 2:12 "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."

is this woman applies to all women in general? yes or no
 

Truth7t7

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It's really a mute point. Women preach, teach and pastor and no one is going to stop them. The Spirit has moved on.
The "Spirit" Has Moved On?

Pinocchio's Nose Is Growing On That Claim!

Man can move in defiance to Gods words of truth below in (Disobedience), and God has the final word, dosent (HE) :giggle:

1 Corinthians 14:33-35KJV
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

2 Timothy 3:-3-5KJV
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
 

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No, it's only missing from your heart and your mind. An extremely grave and serious matter. I would urge you to find out what the parable of the soils is all about. And how you would identify with it.
You sound so high and mighty! :D
 

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@Truth7t7, and @cv5
if it's so clear, is the term woman, here in 1 Timothy 2:12 "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."

is this woman applies to all women in general in the church? yes or no.

I guess it's good to take your time in answering, because destruction is coming by the word of God.

PICJAG, 101G
 

Truth7t7

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to Truth7t7, you can answer, also, since both of you agree....
Rebellious Disobedience, To Gods Very Plain And Clear Words Of Truth

You Have Been Shown Several Times, No Further Explanation Is Needed.
 

cv5

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is woman here a wife or women in General?

PICJAG, 101G
Here you go.......copy and paste.
https://www.gotquestions.org/women-pastors.html

A third objection is that Paul is only referring to husbands and wives, not men and women in general. The Greek words for “woman” and “man” in 1 Timothy 2 couldrefer to husbands and wives; however, the basic meaning of the words is broader than that. Further, the same Greek words are used in verses 8–10. Are onlyhusbands to lift up holy hands in prayer without anger and disputing (verse 8)? Are only wives to dress modestly, have good deeds, and worship God (verses 9–10)? Of course not. Verses 8–10 clearly refer to all men and women, not just husbands and wives. There is nothing in the context that would indicate a narrowing to husbands and wives in verses 11–14.

The structure of 1 Timothy 2:11–14 makes the reason why women cannot be pastors perfectly clear. Verse 13 begins with “for,” giving the “cause” of Paul’s statement in verses 11–12. Why should women not teach or have authority over men? Because “Adam was created first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived” (verses 13–14). God created Adam first and then created Eve to be a “helper” for Adam. The order of creation has universal application in the family (Ephesians 5:22–33) and in the church.
 

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@Truth7t7, and @cv5
if it's so clear, is the term woman, here in 1 Timothy 2:12 "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."

is this woman applies to all women in general in the church? yes or no.

I guess it's good to take your time in answering, because destruction is coming by the word of God.

PICJAG, 101G
Thank goodness I replied......Imminent destruction has been averted.
 

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No, but I do serve the Mighty One.

Luke 9:35
And a voice came from the cloud, saying, “This is My Son, whom I have chosen. Listen to Him!”
Our Mighty One told us that we ought to be humble, and to treat each other with gentle kindness.
 

101G

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Rebellious Disobedience, To Gods Very Plain And Clear Words Of Truth

You Have Been Show Several Times, No Further Explanation Is Needed.
never copy and past from someone else.
Thank goodness I replied......Imminent destruction has been averted.
as the scriptures states, Amos 5:19 "As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him."
so don't worry, here's you Imminent destruction of you KNOWLEDGE of the scriptures.... (smile). you didn't missed it, but the boat ... yes.

the term "WOMEN" here in 1 Timothy 2:12 is "WIFE", just as it was in 1 Corinthians 14:34, how do we know this, if one would just keep on reading the revelation will come, LISTEN,
1 Timothy 2:12 "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."
1 Timothy 2:13 "For Adam was first formed, then Eve."
1 Timothy 2:14 "And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."
1 Timothy 2:15 "Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety."

as in 1 Corinthians 14:34, this is speaking of "WIVES", for the ONLY woman to bear children is a MARRIED one. and on top of that all woman do not BARE CHILDREN, (being either Married, or not), be it a medical condition or not), so right there you statements, are flawed, as in 1 Corinthians 14:34, a big ERROR, and false statements.

the apostle are speaking of Married Women. again not women in GENERAL. because he perfer that many stay virgins.... (smile).

so destruction has come to this scripture for you, who believe that it applies to all women... (smile). see this comes from a LACK of, A. not reading, and B. no wisdom from God, to understand.

so destruction came for incorrect statements, and blind understanding.

so those scriptures, that you thought you knew your KNOWLEDGE, or the Lack there of, are "DESTROYED". by the word of God
Scripture, 1 Corinthians 1:19 "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."

PICJAG, 101G.
 

Truth7t7

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never copy and past from someone else.

as the scriptures states, Amos 5:19 "As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him."
so don't worry, here's you Imminent destruction of you KNOWLEDGE of the scriptures.... (smile). you didn't missed it, but the boat ... yes.

the term "WOMEN" here in 1 Timothy 2:12 is "WIFE", just as it was in 1 Corinthians 14:34, how do we know this, if one would just keep on reading the revelation will come, LISTEN,
1 Timothy 2:12 "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."
1 Timothy 2:13 "For Adam was first formed, then Eve."
1 Timothy 2:14 "And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."
1 Timothy 2:15 "Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety."

as in 1 Corinthians 14:34, this is speaking of "WIVES", for the ONLY woman to bear children is a MARRIED one. and on top of that all woman do not BARE CHILDREN, (being either Married, or not), be it a medical condition or not), so right there you statements, are flawed, as in 1 Corinthians 14:34, a big ERROR, and false statements.

the apostle are speaking of Married Women. again not women in GENERAL. because he perfer that many stay virgins.... (smile).

so destruction has come to this scripture for you, who believe that it applies to all women... (smile). see this comes from a LACK of, A. not reading, and B. no wisdom from God, to understand.

so destruction came for incorrect statements, and blind understanding.

so those scriptures, that you thought you knew your KNOWLEDGE, or the Lack there of, are "DESTROYED". by the word of God
Scripture, 1 Corinthians 1:19 "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."

PICJAG, 101G.
Willful Rebellion In Disobedience
 

Dino246

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No, it's only missing from your heart and your mind. An extremely grave and serious matter. I would urge you to find out what the parable of the soils is all about. And how you would identify with it.
It is an extremely grave and serious matter to add to the word of God.
 

notuptome

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It is sad because those churches that misunderstood what Paul intended and ban their women from teaching the bible or speaking under the anointing of the Spirit in various speaking gifts are not being built up by these individual members of the body as God intended. An entire chapter 1 Cor 12 is not trumped by one misunderstood verse. But I think that in a way this is also God's plan, it makes it easier to identify those who are infected (even given over) to the leaven of the Pharisees.
Rubbish.

For the cause of Christ
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notuptome

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It's really a mute point. Women preach, teach and pastor and no one is going to stop them. The Spirit has moved on.
The Holy Spirit has written Ichabod over the door. The glory of the Lord has departed. Judgment is certain to follow.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

101G

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it's amazing many christian act just like the Pharisees, "Don't heal anyone on the sabbath". that put the sabbath over SAVING a LIFE.
Matthew 12:9 "And when he was departed thence, he went into their synagogue:"
Matthew 12:10 "And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him."
Matthew 12:11 "And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?"
Matthew 12:12 "How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days."

Pharisees, in sheep clothing. the law is more important than a life saved.

PICJAG, 101G