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Here is what Jesus told Nicodemus when Jesus was asked the same question.

Being born again is the only way to have eternal life.

To be born again, you believe and accept that you fall short of God's perfect standard.

Believe ON the work that Jesus has done on YOUR behalf. To believe is to be in agreement with what God says is true and changing your mind about trying to obtain your salvation by your own works.

You believe and accept this truth with your heart and mind completely and fully.

Remember no one puts their hands to the plow and looks back, you are sold out on this truth or you are not. This is what makes your change of mind (repentance) acceptable to God.
This is not biblical at all. In the book of Acts people simply believed that Jesus was the messiah and were saved. What you've described here is traditions of men.
 
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JohnLove, why the (removed) do you have the word 'love' in your username when you don't display love here?
 
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The Holy Spirit now permanently dwells in all Christians. But during the Old Testament times and prior to Jesus' ascension, the Holy Spirit came upon God's people when He chose.
A sinner is of the devil, and God will never reside in the same house as the devil.
Jesus told us who it is God will be in.
(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”
(John 14:21) “Anybody who receives my commandments and keeps them will be one who loves me; and anybody who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and show myself to him.”
 
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A sinner is of the devil, and God will never reside in the same house as the devil.
Jesus told us who it is God will be in.
(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”
(John 14:21) “Anybody who receives my commandments and keeps them will be one who loves me; and anybody who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and show myself to him.”
True enough. But that's very different to a sinner being equivalent to a demon. Your biblical hermeneutics are terrible! Also, obedience to God is our response to Him, it's not what saves us.
 
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JohnLove, why the crap do you have the word 'love' in your username when you don't display love here?
Do you have any idea what it means to be in Jesus Christ our Lord and God? Or to have Jesus Christ in you?

(1 John 2:5 -6) “Whoever says, 'I know him' without keeping his commandments, is a liar, and truth has no place in him. But anyone who does keep his word, in such a one God's love truly reaches its perfection. This is the proof that we are in God. Whoever claims to remain in him must act as he acted.”
(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”

(John 14:21) “Anybody who receives my commandments and keeps them will be one who loves me; and anybody who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and show myself to him.”
 

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A sinner is of the devil, and God will never reside in the same house as the devil.
Jesus told us who it is God will be in.
(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”
(John 14:21) “Anybody who receives my commandments and keeps them will be one who loves me; and anybody who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and show myself to him.”
If no true believer is a sinner, then so much for Christ's rebuke of five of the seven churches to repent in Revelation. For if anyone needs to repent of anything, then they have committed sin. Yet, if they repent then the will be forgiven, for that is Christ's purpose for the rebuke, for He says, "Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent."
 
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If no true believer is a sinner, then so much for Christ's rebuke of five of the seven churches to repent in Revelation. For if anyone needs to repent of anything, then they have committed sin. Yet, if they repent then the will be forgiven, for that is Christ's purpose for the rebuke, for He says, "Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent."
So you believe Apostle John was wrong, and the Holy Spirit should not have included John’s words in the bible?

(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who is a child of God sins because God's seed remains in him. Nor can he sin, because he is a child of God. This is what distinguishes the children of God from the children of the devil: whoever does not live uprightly and does not love his brother is not from God” New Jerusalem bible

(1 John 2:5 -6) “Whoever says, 'I know him' without keeping his commandments, is a liar, and truth has no place in him. But anyone who does keep his word, in such a one God's love truly reaches its perfection. This is the proof that we are in God. Whoever claims to remain in him must act as he acted.”

(1 John 3:5-6) “Now you know that he appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen him or known him.”
 
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Do you have any idea what it means to be in Jesus Christ our Lord and God? Or to have Jesus Christ in you?

(1 John 2:5 -6) “Whoever says, 'I know him' without keeping his commandments, is a liar, and truth has no place in him. But anyone who does keep his word, in such a one God's love truly reaches its perfection. This is the proof that we are in God. Whoever claims to remain in him must act as he acted.”
(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”

(John 14:21) “Anybody who receives my commandments and keeps them will be one who loves me; and anybody who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and show myself to him.”
Yes, I do actually. I'll just leave you to play with yourself. Maybe the rest of us should follow suite.
 
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True enough. But that's very different to a sinner being equivalent to a demon. Your biblical hermeneutics are terrible! Also, obedience to God is our response to Him, it's not what saves us.
Being saved is not the same as one going to the kingdom of heaven with Jesus Christ. And you have no scripture that says saved mean one will go to God’s kingdom forever.
 
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i would say i am a fringe Christian being as so many have told me i am not a Christian.
 
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Tintin

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Being saved is not the same as one going to the kingdom of heaven with Jesus Christ. And you have no scripture that says saved mean one will go to God’s kingdom forever.
Goodbye, crazy person.
 
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DiscipleDave, why did you come back under another username?
And why won't he answer my question as to when it was that he last sinned? Can you say demonic hypocrite?
 
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Yes this is true, do you know what I meant by misfit



I was thinking that you meant that you had not received your glorified body yet.
Stranger in a strange land?
 
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I named Johnlove a false teacher. I also name him a false prophet. I dare say I may have to name him the anti christ.
You Johnlove have been marked and may God have mercy on your soul for bringing in such foul dark satanic doctrine. I rebuke you satan in the name of Jesus. Johnlove by your own admission you are no longer a Christian you brought in false doctrine. You have lied. You continue to point fingers at everyone trying to expose everyone elses corruption. You have turned Christianity into a demon and witch hunt. Take your holier than thou approach to the satanic church. You Johnlove have been marked as a spreader of false teachings. Everyone don't believe a single thing that comes from Johnlove his twisted idea of salvation comes straight from the pits of hell. Know it for what it is heresy.
 

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(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who is a child of God sins because God's seed remains in him. Nor can he sin, because he is a child of God. This is what distinguishes the children of God from the children of the devil: whoever does not live uprightly and does not love his brother is not from God” New Jerusalem bible
how long are you going to go on with this epicly bad, misleading translation of this passage, that has so many times been patiently explained to you to be in error?

what is it you have against God's children?

this is the Wife of the Lamb you are maligning -- would you even speak this way to a mere human man's wife?
so where do you get the audacity to impugn the Bride of the Lord?
 
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And if no one can stop sinning even when they have the holy spirit then can you tell me Johnlove this one. Why did Jesus die on the cross? Would it not have been easier to just get the holy spirit in everyone therefore getting rid of sin and eliminating the need to have Jesus be the savior of mankind? See how your argument does not hold water? So I suggest you do some things Johnlove.

I suggest that you get on your knees and pray that Jesus forgives your heresy. You have brought in false teaching and brought forth stumbling blocks to believers. I suggest you search your soul and get right with God and fast. Time is short. Jesus can come back at any moment. Time is ticking.