Are you RIGHTEOUS?
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If you trust in God, You will.
If your doing it to save yourself. Then you will not, even if you think you are.
For a man who deny's he teaches works, that is all that ever comes out of your mouth.. Have you reported yourself yet for teaching a works based gospel like you promised you would report (all works people)
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So then,
Please define the nature and extent of a person's obedience or lack of obedience and when they have enough to earn salvation?
Jesus is perfect obedience if we are less than Him we fail, Yes or No?
So we all fail Yes or No?
So God grants eternal life even though we fail Yes or No?
Our effort gains us eternal life Yes of No?
That is the question you seem to avoid.
Please define the nature and extent of a person's obedience or lack of obedience and when they have enough to earn salvation?
Jesus is perfect obedience if we are less than Him we fail, Yes or No?
So we all fail Yes or No?
So God grants eternal life even though we fail Yes or No?
Our effort gains us eternal life Yes of No?
That is the question you seem to avoid.
I was having a very pleasant conversation with Rosemary.
I said that she posted everything exactly as the bible states and that she is right
and some on these threads do not know as much as she knows. I stand by that statement.
She said she is born again and knows Jesus.
She said she sinned last week and was aware of it.
We sin everyday but that's OK, God forgives us.
She said she got back up and kept going.
She said she trusts God.
She's saved and safe and trying to obey God.
As He wishes.
See. Wasn't that easy?
And it didn't take a Whole page.
It takes a Whole page when we want the bible to say what we want it say
Instead of accepting what it does say.
Jesus made everything very simple.
We make everything very complicated.
I said that she posted everything exactly as the bible states and that she is right
and some on these threads do not know as much as she knows. I stand by that statement.
She said she is born again and knows Jesus.
She said she sinned last week and was aware of it.
We sin everyday but that's OK, God forgives us.
She said she got back up and kept going.
She said she trusts God.
She's saved and safe and trying to obey God.
As He wishes.
See. Wasn't that easy?
And it didn't take a Whole page.
It takes a Whole page when we want the bible to say what we want it say
Instead of accepting what it does say.
Jesus made everything very simple.
We make everything very complicated.
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Who does? Anyone who does this is depending on self. Not God, the victory is in Jesus, not in us or our ability or lack of..
No one does Stephen, Thats all a made up thing you have either been falsely taught by your pastors, or conjured up in your own mind. .
You know it is prety amazing, People like myself, DC, PennEd, undergrace, Stonesfire, Grace777, GB9, Arial and many others (I know I have missed some people forgive me if I have) has been preaching this since we first got here, Are you know just figuring this fact of the christian way of life out? Or are you still in denial that we believe and preach these very things?
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and if something happens, And she falls (say like a death in the family, or some debilitating disease or whatever) and she stops walking,
She will still be saved, Still be in heaven to spend eternity with us all. because God loved her the same the day he died for ALL her sin, The day he made her alive in Christ, the day he justified her, they day he gave her the spirit as a seal, and and the day she got mad at God and started to lose faith.
He loved her at her worse, No matter how low she gets, she will never get worse than she was before she came to christ.
This is the hope which sustains us all. this is the thing which keeps our faiht in tact, If this is not true, we have no hope. and we are all but on a lake of thin ice ready to break through and perish at any moment,
That is not rest, thats hell on earth.
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Yeah right.....ad how did you start your post....making a mouthy dig.....
Originally Posted by FranC
Seems to me YOU Know more than many here on this thread !
be careful, when you get so mad at someone, you stop starting to see what they say, and you make mistakes like this. Lets be better than they are, and repent when we fail to do so.
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I understand everything you say. No worries there. You hate what we believe and I hate what you believe. It is not personal but .... you did diss a group of people and then you used someone else to elevate your beliefs I see that as condescending.
Does this mean I do not get the answer to my questions and I was playing so nice with you.
Does this mean I do not get the answer to my questions and I was playing so nice with you.