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Friends, all of these threads in this particular question are foolish and unlearned questions and some foolish and unlearned answers. See Ephesians 2:23!

Christ was crucified. It does matter that He was crucified, and it just happens to be so that He died in Jerusalem almost 2000 years ago. As for spiritual harlotry, it was produced by the Filioque clause added to the Western (Frankish/Charlemagne, etc.) confession of faith of the popes of Rome since 1014 AD, and perhaps a good majority or large minority of Protestant denominations keep this Filioque tradition of men unaltered and unrepented of.
Can you put this in the form of a question please....j/k ;)

All jokes aside, there really has to be something more important for you to obsess over than whether or not the Holy Spirit precedes from the Father alone or the Father and the Son doesnt it? Beside they are all the same right....3 are 1 and stuff????
 
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Friends, all of these threads in this particular question are foolish and unlearned questions and some foolish and unlearned answers. See Ephesians 2:23!

Christ was crucified. It does matter that He was crucified, and it just happens to be so that He died in Jerusalem almost 2000 years ago. As for spiritual harlotry, it was produced by the Filioque clause added to the Western (Frankish/Charlemagne, etc.) confession of faith of the popes of Rome since 1014 AD, and perhaps a good majority or large minority of Protestant denominations keep this Filioque tradition of men unaltered and unrepented of.
If you were learned on the subject of the Whore of Babylon you may not have been trapped in its temple cult daughter, the EOC.

Pity.
 
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Imagine Jesus standing in front of you saying, "Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect." What would you tell Him?

Many today who say it is not possible to go one day without sinning cry, "THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!" So whom do they reprove by this argument? They reprove God, for commanding us to do something the fulfillment of which is impossible according to them. If a person says he cannot live one day without sinning, that person makes a statement of faith and belief in his own experience and not the Scripture

"Go, sin no more" John 5:14; John 8:11
Awake to righteousness, and sin not 1 Cor. 15:34
"Little children, sin not" 1 John 2:1
''Shall we continue in sin?" Romans 6:1, 2
"Stand in awe, sin not" Ps. 4:4
"He that committeth sin is of the Devil" 1 John 3:8
"Whosoever is born of God doth not sin" 1 John 5:18; 3:9
"Let not sin reign in your bodies" Romans 6:12"Sin shall not reign" Romans 6:14
 

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Imagine Jesus standing in front of you saying, "Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect." What would you tell Him?
Be ye therefore perfect, as your Father,.... This perfection is to be restrained to the subject Christ is upon, love to men, and not to be referred to any, or every other thing; wherefore, in Luke 6:36 it is, "be ye merciful, as your Father also is merciful"; and regards not a perfection of degree in that, but objects and quality: that is to say, not that men may, or can, or ought to be as perfect in love, as to the degree of it, as God is; that is impossible: the "as" here, is not a note of equality, but of likeness: such, who profess God to be their Father, ought to imitate him, particularly in their love to men, which ought to be extended to the same objects, as the divine goodness is; that, as he shows regard in a providential way to all men, good and bad, just and unjust, and his tender mercies are over all his works; so ought they to love all men with a natural affection, and hate no man, no, not their enemies: for he that loves only his friends, and not his enemies, loves imperfectly; he does not take in the whole compass of objects his love is to extend unto; and as God loves sincerely, and without dissimulation, so should they. To be "perfect", is to be sincere and upright: in this sense is the word often used, and answers to the Hebrew word which signifies the same: see Deuteronomy 18:13 which is the passage Christ seems to refer to here; and the sense is, be ye sincere and upright in your love to all men, as your heavenly Father is hearty and sincere in his affections to them.
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Be ye therefore perfect, as your Father,.... This perfection is to be restrained to the subject Christ is upon, love to men, and not to be referred to any, or every other thing; wherefore, in Luke 6:36 it is, "be ye merciful, as your Father also is merciful"; and regards not a perfection of degree in that, but objects and quality: that is to say, not that men may, or can, or ought to be as perfect in love, as to the degree of it, as God is; that is impossible: the "as" here, is not a note of equality, but of likeness: such, who profess God to be their Father, ought to imitate him, particularly in their love to men, which ought to be extended to the same objects, as the divine goodness is; that, as he shows regard in a providential way to all men, good and bad, just and unjust, and his tender mercies are over all his works; so ought they to love all men with a natural affection, and hate no man, no, not their enemies: for he that loves only his friends, and not his enemies, loves imperfectly; he does not take in the whole compass of objects his love is to extend unto; and as God loves sincerely, and without dissimulation, so should they. To be "perfect", is to be sincere and upright: in this sense is the word often used, and answers to the Hebrew word which signifies the same: see Deuteronomy 18:13 which is the passage Christ seems to refer to here; and the sense is, be ye sincere and upright in your love to all men, as your heavenly Father is hearty and sincere in his affections to them.
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If we love God with all our mind, heart, soul, and strength, and our neighbor as our self, then we would be perfect as the Father is perfect....wouldnt we? ;)
 

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If we love God with all our mind, heart, soul, and strength, and our neighbor as our self, then we would be perfect as the Father is perfect....wouldnt we? ;)
we would be obeying the two great commandements spoken by Jesus, which are a summary of the Decalogue.

i'll issue you a challenge 4runner: listen to this sermon, and then tell me if you think you Love The Lord Thy God with all your heart, mind and soul - as He demands....everday, seamlessly.

from:
The Ten Commandments


No Other gods
Phil Johnson
The Ten Commandments
 
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My walk with the Lord is irrelevant to the truth of scripture. if i have been perfected God's word stands true. If I have yet to be perfected but am in the process god's word still stands true. If i am a full blown sinner, God's word is still true. Rather than focusing on my or others level and sanctification what we all need to do is believe God can perfect us, and yield to His calling on our lives.
 
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My walk with the Lord is irrelevant to the truth of scripture. if i have been perfected God's word stands true. If I have yet to be perfected but am in the process god's word still stands true. If i am a full blown sinner, God's word is still true. Rather than focusing on my or others level and sanctification what we all need to do is believe God can perfect us, and yield to His calling on our lives.
we will be perfected when Christ returns.

until then you me and everyone else is a sinner.
 
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we will be perfected when Christ returns.

until then you me and everyone else is a sinner.
When are Christians gonna ge the message that Christ came to give you His life, Christ in you? Either Christ be in you or not. Christ means to be anointed of Gods Spirit. If He is not returned, Christ in you, then you are still looking for Him. It is YOU who is suposed to be that person of Christ, anointed of God, same Spirit in you who was in Christ Jesus, walk as He walks, Same mind, same everything.
Crucify that flesh mentality and put on the Christ. I am crucifeied with Christ, I am no longer the same, never the less I live, yet not I, the one who is crucified, but Christ lives in me. ANOINTED OF GOD! Open your eyes to Him and see yourself as He and one with Him. Where do you guys get this other god that you worship that is suposed to come someday? The God of heaven is knocking at your door this day wanting to come to you, and make His abode in you. You act as if God is going to come as a man.
 
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When are Christians gonna ge the message that Christ came to give you His life, Christ in you? Either Christ be in you or not. Christ means to be anointed of Gods Spirit. If He is not returned, Christ in you, then you are still looking for Him. It is YOU who is suposed to be that person of Christ, anointed of God, same Spirit in you who was in Christ Jesus, walk as He walks, Same mind, same everything.
Crucify that flesh mentality and put on the Christ. I am crucifeied with Christ, I am no longer the same, never the less I live, yet not I, the one who is crucified, but Christ lives in me. ANOINTED OF GOD! Open your eyes to Him and see yourself as He and one with Him. Where do you guys get this other god that you worship that is suposed to come someday? The God of heaven is knocking at your door this day wanting to come to you, and make His abode in you. You act as if God is going to come as a man.
Your doctrines are foreign.

I'm not the Messiah. And I'm not God....and you arn't either.

Jesus is not coming back as a man, He's coming back in the clouds in judgement.
 
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When are Christians gonna ge the message that Christ came to give you His life, Christ in you? Either Christ be in you or not. Christ means to be anointed of Gods Spirit. If He is not returned, Christ in you, then you are still looking for Him. It is YOU who is suposed to be that person of Christ, anointed of God, same Spirit in you who was in Christ Jesus, walk as He walks, Same mind, same everything.
Crucify that flesh mentality and put on the Christ. I am crucifeied with Christ, I am no longer the same, never the less I live, yet not I, the one who is crucified, but Christ lives in me. ANOINTED OF GOD! Open your eyes to Him and see yourself as He and one with Him. Where do you guys get this other god that you worship that is suposed to come someday? The God of heaven is knocking at your door this day wanting to come to you, and make His abode in you. You act as if God is going to come as a man.
Amen bro....
 
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I'm still waiting on entire volumes of credible data to qualify the strange one promised which I'll never see. For someone who expects so much from everyone else, he gives so little himself.

I am ignoring your post, you will get no answer
 
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Your doctrines are foreign.
His doctrine is foriegn to you, because you cannot discern spiritual things, because you are carnal therefore you cannot please God, but are indeed His enemy.

I'm not the Messiah. And I'm not God....and you arn't either.
No one is claiming to be God or Messiah
Jesus is not coming back as a man,
Ummm, you better re-read your Bible.
He's coming back in the clouds in judgement.
We meet Him in the air as He is returning to Earth.


Strangelove stop posting in this thread.
 
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I'm still waiting on entire volumes of credible data to qualify the strange one promised which I'll never see. For someone who expects so much from everyone else, he gives so little himself.
You are going to have to rephrase the question. I didnt undertsand what you are trying to say

Originally Posted by 4runner

I am ignoring your post, you will get no answer
This was directed at strangelove, not you or anyone else. Strangelove kept asking the same questions over and over even after receiving an answer multiple time. He wasnt being genuine, but was trying to cause strife and confusion. He was also cutting and pasting old responses to make them seem to say things that were not being said in the original context, He was being very deceptive, and I made a mature decision to stop enabling him. I have asked him many time over to stop posting in this thread, but he has refuse to honor my request because he is disrespectful, and unchristian.
 
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Your doctrines are foreign.

I'm not the Messiah. And I'm not God....and you arn't either.

Jesus is not coming back as a man, He's coming back in the clouds in judgement.
I know He is foreign to you, that is why you are waiting for Him to come. But to we who have received His coming are like Him. It is those clouds that keeps you from seeing the sky, and those clouds are your laws for tradition which keep Him at bay. Trust me He does come though through those clouds that hides Him from you.
And I agree you are not the messiah nor is any man, it is the messiah that resides in me, the one who came and delivered me from myself and those laws for tradition where you are that wont allow Him to come to you and be in you. And the same one who came and made His abode in Jesus in Matt 3:16 and opend all of heaven to that man as well.
 
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I'm still waiting on entire volumes of credible data to qualify the strange one promised which I'll never see. For someone who expects so much from everyone else, he gives so little himself.
It seems your not interested in discussing anymore:

LINK ::: Wow!
 
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His doctrine is foriegn to you, because you cannot discern spiritual things, because you are carnal therefore you cannot please God, but are indeed His enemy.

No one is claiming to be God or Messiah
Ummm, you better re-read your Bible.We meet Him in the air as He is returning to Earth.


Strangelove stop posting in this thread.
Erm....no.
 
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You are going to have to rephrase the question. I didnt undertsand what you are trying to say

This was directed at strangelove, not you or anyone else. Strangelove kept asking the same questions over and over even after receiving an answer multiple time. He wasnt being genuine, but was trying to cause strife and confusion. He was also cutting and pasting old responses to make them seem to say things that were not being said in the original context, He was being very deceptive, and I made a mature decision to stop enabling him. I have asked him many time over to stop posting in this thread, but he has refuse to honor my request because he is disrespectful, and unchristian.
All you need to do is tell me if you make mistakes which you define as accidental sins.

Pretty simple no?
 
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I know He is foreign to you, that is why you are waiting for Him to come. But to we who have received His coming are like Him. It is those clouds that keeps you from seeing the sky, and those clouds are your laws for tradition which keep Him at bay. Trust me He does come though through those clouds that hides Him from you.
And I agree you are not the messiah nor is any man, it is the messiah that resides in me, the one who came and delivered me from myself and those laws for tradition where you are that wont allow Him to come to you and be in you. And the same one who came and made His abode in Jesus in Matt 3:16 and opend all of heaven to that man as well.
How mystical of you. hooray.

Wheres the messuah residing in you bud?

Does he have a penthouse suite in yer pineal gland?!

LOLZ! :D