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Even if what you ponder is not what i ponder It might still interest me.

I love talking about Jesus, the bible ect...
Ok, back to what we agree on....the Holy Spirit is the Father, His spirit...how did you come to that?
 
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Ok, back to what we agree on....the Holy Spirit is the Father, His spirit...how did you come to that?
Well Jesus says the Father is the One and only true God. We also know that the Holy Spirit is God, and that God is a Spirit....sooo, I just put 1 and 1 and 1 together. If the Father is the only one and true God, and the Holy Spirit if God, and God is a Spirit, then the Holy Spirit must be the Spirit that God is, the Father Himself.
 
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Than provide all the many credible and verifiable sources of information you promised to provide so that I may qualify them instead of merely posting a link to a thread where I answered your question and you refused to acknowledge it.
I didnt promise to provide anything to you and you failed to address the post that I keep asking for answers to. Continue to expose yourself with lies by all means.
 
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Indeed there is.

It means exactly what it says. In Matt 3:16 all of heaven was opend to Jesus and even Jesus had to go through this experience to understand it. After that event he was not the same man and did the works of the SPirit, up to that point he did the works of the law. Paul said in 1 Cor that the first man Adam was of flesh and the second man Adam was of PSirit, that which is first is flesh then that which is Spirit, this is reflected in Jesus when Gods PSirit came to the man and opend heaven to him. And the same is reflected in us all who recieve from God the same.

If any of you are to understand it you have to go through the same process as he did. Jesus refered to the process as born again. It happend in Paul on the road to Damascus, Moses on the mountain, Adam in the garden, 120 in an upper room and in me the same. It is the way of God that we become like Him, one with Him, He in you and you in Him as one, same spirit, same mind, same everything. Understanding of that, His heaven, the place God dwells intells Christ in you. Gods SPirit in you.

There is only one thing on this planet that is perfect. It cant be changed, doent change and is the same yesterday as today. It cant be goverened by law and you cant fabricate it and it is a SPirit and it resides in man. That spirit is love for God is love.

Is that so difficult to understand and accept in you for yourself. Christ in you, love in you, God in you? God really is love. His abode really is in man. Luke 17:20-21, Behold, the kingdom of God is in you, it does not come with observation.

How simple can it be, and how difficult you do make it.
So tell us what the experience is?

Whats involved in this mystical process?

Why dont you tell us already?

Does it involve talking gibberish?

You dont need to write an essay just give us it straight.
 
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The call of a forerunner is a ''Sacred Charge'', it is a prophetic call to refuse to settle for anything less than radical pursuit of God and His purposes for this generation. We as forerunners challenge the ''Church'' to live in wholehearted pursuit of Jesus. Forerunners operate in the power of the Holy Spirit, preparing ourselves to prepare others for the Lord's return.
It seems 4runners simply condemn people for falling short of Gods perfect standards, which they themselves cannot even keep themselves.

Hypocrites in short.
 
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Well Jesus says the Father is the One and only true God. We also know that the Holy Spirit is God, and that God is a Spirit....sooo, I just put 1 and 1 and 1 together. If the Father is the only one and true God, and the Holy Spirit if God, and God is a Spirit, then the Holy Spirit must be the Spirit that God is, the Father Himself.
darn, I had hoped for more.
 
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darn, I had hoped for more.
Sometimes it is just that simple. Like when Jesus says...( speaking of the Holy Spirit in John 14:18) ''I'' (Jesus) will not leave you comfortless ''I'' (The Holy Spirit) will come to you.

Its that simple, but of course I could give a convoluted, collegiate answer if you would prefer ;)


God is one and has always been one. Jesus is the man God became. Jesus did not exist before incarnation as God the Son. In His per-incarnate state, He existed as the Father, God Himself. Now the two of them are in heaven together, God the Father and the man He became, the Son of God, Jesus Christ. The problem is that when I say the Father became a man people think it means I believe he stopped being an eternal Spirit after incarnation and that heaven was empty. This is not what I believe. God the Father continued to exist as a transcendent, unlimited Spirit, while also becoming a man. The Father did not become confined to a human existence. It is not as though the omnipresent Spirit of God transformed Himself into a man, to the exclusion of His existence as the Holy Spirit.

When God assumed a human existence with a complete human mind, psyche, will, and emotion etc. He was distinct from the Father while he continued to exist as the Father in heaven. As a genuine human being, Jesus was and is distinct from the Father. This is because of His humanity not because he is the second person of the Trinity. While I confess that the deity of the Son did pre-exist incarnation, I do not see that deity as the second person of the Trinity, known as " God the Son ", and separate from the Father or Holy Spirit, but rather as the uni-personal God of the old testament. Yahweh, the Father, the Great I Am.


Concerning the Holy Spirit, I believe He is the Spirit of God the Father and not a separate person of the Trinity, the third person known as " God the Holy Spirit. " The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God, He is the Spirit of the Father, He is the Spirit of Christ. God is a Spirit, the Holy Spirit. There is one God not three, nor are there three persons that create one God. He is one uni-personal God that He Himself became flesh. There is no such person as God the Son nor God the Holy Spirit but only God the Father, the Son of God and the Spirit of God.
 
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Sometimes it is just that simple. Like when Jesus says...( speaking of the Holy Spirit in John 14:18) ''I'' (Jesus) will not leave you comfortless ''I'' (The Holy Spirit) will come to you.

Its that simple, but of course I could give a convoluted, collegiate answer if you would prefer ;)
I think you may have but lets get back to the HS....you and I know it is from the Father. Do you agree or disagree that the Holy Spirit is a person or no?




God is one and has always been one. Jesus is the man God became. Jesus did not exist before incarnation as God the Son. In His per-incarnate state, He existed as the Father, God Himself. Now the two of them are in heaven together, God the Father and the man He became, the Son of God, Jesus Christ. The problem is that when I say the Father became a man people think it means I believe he stopped being an eternal Spirit after incarnation and that heaven was empty. This is not what I believe. God the Father continued to exist as a transcendent, unlimited Spirit, while also becoming a man. The Father did not become confined to a human existence. It is not as though the omnipresent Spirit of God transformed Himself into a man, to the exclusion of His existence as the Holy Spirit.

When God assumed a human existence with a complete human mind, psyche, will, and emotion etc. He was distinct from the Father while he continued to exist as the Father in heaven. As a genuine human being, Jesus was and is distinct from the Father. This is because of His humanity not because he is the second person of the Trinity. While I confess that the deity of the Son did pre-exist incarnation, I do not see that deity as the second person of the Trinity, known as " God the Son ", and separate from the Father or Holy Spirit, but rather as the uni-personal God of the old testament. Yahweh, the Father, the Great I Am.


Concerning the Holy Spirit, I believe He is the Spirit of God the Father and not a separate person of the Trinity, the third person known as " God the Holy Spirit. " The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God, He is the Spirit of the Father, He is the Spirit of Christ. God is a Spirit, the Holy Spirit. There is one God not three, nor are there three persons that create one God. He is one uni-personal God that He Himself became flesh. There is no such person as God the Son nor God the Holy Spirit but only God the Father, the Son of God and the Spirit of God.
 
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I think you may have but lets get back to the HS....you and I know it is from the Father. Do you agree or disagree that the Holy Spirit is a person or no?
I guess that would depend on your definition of person-hood? I would say no, God is not a person, He is God. The Holy Spirit is THE SPIRIT that God is, not a person.
 
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I guess that would depend on your definition of person-hood? I would say no, God is not a person, He is God. The Holy Spirit is THE SPIRIT that God is, not a person.

I agree completely but you and I will face opposition to that.
 
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I agree completely but you and I will face opposition to that.
Thats fine. I am used to opposition. It come with the territory. When you believe and teach truth, you will have many oppose you.
 
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Thats fine. I am used to opposition. It come with the territory. When you believe and teach truth, you will have many oppose you.
yes lets start with this....what else do you believe?
 
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I am going to try to lay down, but it has been good talking to you Naphal, and look forward to many more conversations.

Welcome to CC, bro.
 
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yes lets start with this....what else do you believe?
Thats a long list.

I a nut shell, I believe God is One, and Jesus is God in the flesh. That God is able to sanctify His Bride in the here and now, and that the pretrib doctrine is a lie from Satan.

Those are my main beliefs.

Also anything to do with Calvinism such as total depravity, predestination, limited atonement, irresistible grace, and OSAS are all from satan as well, and are destroying the American church.

I have many other beliefs, but in a nut shell that is were I stand.

I have written 3 books

''How then shall we live''

''The sword is coming''

And ''New Creation''

I am going to write another entitled '' Days of vengeance, and the victorious church''
 
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yes lets start with this....what else do you believe?
Let me help you out. He believes in the false doctrine of sinless perfectionism in thought, deed and act.

I.E. Christians must cease from sinful acts COMPLETELY (keep the law perfectly like Jesus did), and if you disagree then he condemns you to hell.
 
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Let me help you out. He believes in the false doctrine of sinless perfectionism in thought, deed and act.

I.E. Christians must cease from sinful acts COMPLETELY (keep the law perfectly like Jesus did), and if you disagree then he condemns you to hell.
Not one of these accusations are true, but that is no surprise. Like I said when you speak the truth satan rises up and sends many to oppose you.

Off to bed now

God bless you Naphal.
 
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Thats a long list.

I a nut shell, I believe God is One, and Jesus is God in the flesh. That God is able to sanctify His Bride in the here and now, and that the pretrib doctrine is a lie from Satan.

Those are my main beliefs.

Also anything to do with Calvinism such as total depravity, predestination, limited atonement, irresistible grace, and OSAS are all from satan as well, and are destroying the American church.

I have many other beliefs, but in a nut shell that is were I stand.

I have written 3 books

''How then shall we live''

''The sword is coming''

And ''New Creation''

I am going to write another entitled '' Days of vengeance, and the victorious church''
So you are Wayne Muller?
 
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Not one of these accusations are true, but that is no surprise. Like I said when you speak the truth satan rises up and sends many to oppose you.

Off to bed now

God bless you Naphal.
so you dont believe Christians should be sinless in though, deed or act?

make up your mind!