Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

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John146

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Lol you don’t know that human dna is in the Bible? The serpent spoke 46 words to Eve in the garden.... hint hint, what is the serpent.
Satan is cast into the lake of fire. Who is this a reference to? Man's DNA makeup?
 
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The serpent on the pole was that an angelic devil or the son of Man coming in the flesh?
 
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Satan is cast into the lake of fire. Who is this a reference to? Man's DNA makeup?
The permanent death of the 46. We die get a new body the 46 is finished.
 
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He was the anointed cherub, a son of God. But I’m sure you disagree.
Of course I disagree because I don’t care who or what Satan is, I just want to know Gods truth.

By the way 146, what COVERS our soul? 46 chromosomes that construct our FLESH.
 
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The Bible is one BIG riddle and y’all ain’t getting the riddle.
 
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@John146

Have you ever wondered what a messenger of Satan is? Well it’s poor eye sight, leukemia, cancer and any other genetic disorder known to man.

What was Paul’s thorn, his messenger from Satan? Was it it not his genetic disorder that caused him to have poor eyesight?
 
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Why do you think the Bible even mentions Paul’s big letters and poor eyesight? Because I t’s a riddle. It’s a clue to reveal WHAT Satan is. Why did the serpent speak EXACLTY 46 words to Eve in the garden in the KJV? Why did the Israelites look at the serpent in order to be healed?

This goes on and on and on and it’s right there in front of y’all’s faces and you STILL can’t see it even after someone TELLS YOU it’s there.
 
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I get the riddle, and it sure isnt what you falsely espouse.
Why would Jesus come back to this planet when heaven is our final destination? What purpose would it serve?
 

Truth7t7

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Why would Jesus come back to this planet when heaven is our final destination? What purpose would it serve?
You remove the truth of God's words through symbolic allegory, your folly has no end.

This existing earth will be destroyed by fire, and replaced with a New Heaven, Earth, and New Jerusalem in the "Eternal Kingdom"!

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved
, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
 

Truth7t7

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The serpent on the pole was that an angelic devil or the son of Man coming in the flesh?
You now by sleight of words, are turning Jesus Christ into an angelic devil, what's next?
 
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You remove the truth of God's words through symbolic allegory, your folly has no end.

This existing earth will be destroyed by fire, and replaced with a New Heaven, Earth, and New Jerusalem in the "Eternal Kingdom"!

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved
, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Actually Jesus returning from the grave with all power and glory IS NOT an allegory. You are like the Jews who killed Christ, they sought for an earthly kingdom when Jesus repeatedly told them his kingdom was not of this world. Why are you looking for an earthly kingdom when Jesus specifically told you and the Jews that there wouldn’t be one?
 
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You now by sleight of words, are turning Jesus Christ into an angelic devil, what's next?
No, I’m not turning Jesus into an angelic devil, people who think the serpent is an angelic being are turning Jesus into an angelic devil. If I’m not mistaken, you are one of those who do that.

The serpent is human dna. Now do you see why Moses lifted up the serpent and the people looked and lived. That’s what you need to do because you’re worm dieth not.
 

Truth7t7

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The serpent is human dna. Now do you see why Moses lifted up the serpent and the people looked and lived. That’s what you need to do because you’re worm dieth not.
You continue to bend, twist, and change Gods truth.

You falsely use the word "You're" in direct relationship to "Worm Dieth Not"

God's words clearly states "THEIR"!

As You "Falsely Claim"

Your assault upon christian doctrine and Gods words of truth are unspeakable!

Isaiah 66:24KJV
24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

Mark 9:44-45KJV
44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
 
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No it’s not but it’s the biblical one. Jesus said that any one that believes in him will never die. The only thing about us that dies is this body. Unless Jesus lied, then we MUST be taken out of this body prior to its death. I don’t know why this is rejected so badly, it is the only way to reconcile what Jesus said and the only way to reconcile that it is appointed unto man once to die.

Besides that, we are supposed to comfort one another with these words. How is it a comfort to me or someone who lived a thousand years ago to think that some group of believers way off in the future will be raptured and won’t face death when Jesus said ALL BELIEVERS of all times will never have to face death.
They called it the resurrection or at least being with the Lord. No one called the after death “the rapture.”
 

oyster67

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You continue to bend, twist, and change Gods truth.

You falsely use the word "You're" in direct relationship to "Worm Dieth Not"

God's words clearly states "THEIR"!
I see no twisting, bending, or changing of meaning in this.