Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

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The key is omission.
Remove our verses and ......poooof... postrib rapture is born!!!
 
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Then said Martha unto Jesus Lord if thou hadst been here
my brother had not died.But I know even now whatsoever
thou wilt ask of God God will give it thee. Jesus saith unto
Thy brother shall rise again Martha saith unto him I know
that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day

John 11:21-24 KJV

I posted a number of scriptures in this thread which you virtually ignored and accused me of ommision
which seems to be your favorite cliche. I did omit the one above so I bring it to your attention now because
one of your arguments appears to be that the last day can mean any one of the days mentioned
In the above passage Jesus omitted to ask Martha when she thought was the last day He also omitted
to mention a Pre Trib rapture. Actually there is more to be said about the last day/day of the lord but it would require
more time and posssibly another thread to explain it all. I expect you would ignore it anyway.
Ignore what?
She was probably right.

But who exactly made Martha a doctrinal guide??

You actually hinge your belief on a little girls assertion?

But what,if anything,makes that true.

Have you not seen ONLY THE DEAD IN CHRIST are raised at the rapture.???

What are you thinking you proved?
 
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Matt 25, sheep goats is a parable of the Second Coming and Great White Throne Judgement

Matthew 24, is the future abomination, great tribulation, second coming and resurrection.

1 Thess 4:14-17, is the second coming last day resurrection.

Revelation 14, second coming last day resurrection

Revelation 19 marriage supper takes place" after the second coming and final judgement seen in Rev 19
I send you to a vivid picture of the bride gathered.....

And you 100% skip it to do a sheep/goat overview of some other dynamic.


Now that is bizarre.
 
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The rapture is hidden.

It is a hidden mystery.

Some can not even read about it in the bible

They literally can not make themselves see the rapture verses.
 
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Ignore what?
She was probably right.

But who exactly made Martha a doctrinal guide??

You actually hinge your belief on a little girls assertion?

But what,if anything,makes that true.

Have you not seen ONLY THE DEAD IN CHRIST are raised at the rapture.???

What are you thinking you proved?
The Holy Spirit that worked in her to both will and do His good pleasure made Martha a doctrinal guide. Its what prophets do declare the thoughts of God not seen

Six times the phase the "last day" is used in John in the same way . The same day in the twinkling of the eye (not a literal thousand years.), The letter of the law death is cast into the judgment fire of God never to rise and condemn through corruption another entire creation .all the dirt.

The parable (Revelation 20) must be properly divided using the prescription in 2 Corinthians 4:18 .It uses the temporal corrupted things seen to reveal to us the hidden spiritual understanding .The gospel of faith.

The metaphor "thousand years" like all the metaphor in that parable must be properly divided if we are to seek the approval of the author of our new born again faith
 

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Ignore what?
She was probably right.

But who exactly made Martha a doctrinal guide??

You actually hinge your belief on a little girls assertion?

But what,if anything,makes that true.

Have you not seen ONLY THE DEAD IN CHRIST are raised at the rapture.???

What are you thinking you proved?
I think Ive proved its a waste of time trying to have an intelligent discussion with you.
 
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@John146

Yes the GWT has already started and is going on continuously as people die.

The Old Testament saints were in the Abraham’s bosom section of hell. The rich man was in the torment section of hell. These were all taken out of hell, some to everlasting life and some to everlasting contempt exactly as Daniel said would happen.


Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
 

John146

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@John146

Yes the GWT has already started and is going on continuously as people die.

The Old Testament saints were in the Abraham’s bosom section of hell. The rich man was in the torment section of hell. These were all taken out of hell, some to everlasting life and some to everlasting contempt exactly as Daniel said would happen.


Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
If this is true, the devil has already been cast into the lake of fire. Also, the heaven and earth have already fled away. This happens before the GWTJ. But, your view can’t be true since none of this has occurred yet.

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
 
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If this is true, the devil has already been cast into the lake of fire. Also, the heaven and earth have already fled away. This happens before the GWTJ. But, your view can’t be true since none of this has occurred yet.

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
The devil IS NOT a being, it’s your 46 chromosomes.
 
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That statement confirms that you do not really believe the Bible. The devil is a SPIRIT BEING, as are all angels, evil or good.
“Ye are of your father the devil”. Did your spirit being devil sire children? No he did not. So here again, you will toss those words right out of the Bible as usual.

Forty and six years was the temple in building, yet Jesus was referring to his 46 chromosome dna body.

“Get thee behind me Satan”. Was Peter Satan? Was peter possessed by Satan? No he was neither, Jesus was referring to his FLESH. Another verse you can toss out lol.
 
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46 chromosomes tempted the Lord in the wilderness.🤓
That’s exactly right, Jesus was tempted in his mind with EVERYTHING you and I are tempted with. Did an angelic being tempt you to not believe every word written on the Bible or is that your FLESH twisting scripture to make five gospels out of one gospel? Wa that your46 chromosome DNA or was it a spirit being?
 

John146

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That’s exactly right, Jesus was tempted in his mind with EVERYTHING you and I are tempted with. Did an angelic being tempt you to not believe every word written on the Bible or is that your FLESH twisting scripture to make five gospels out of one gospel? Wa that your46 chromosome DNA or was it a spirit being?
Five gospels😂

The devil or as you see him (46 chromosomes) to were around before God created man.

Speaking of every word in the Bible, where is 46 chromosomes? Are you going outside the Bible to define it?
 
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Five gospels😂

The devil or as you see him (46 chromosomes) to were around before God created man.

Speaking of every word in the Bible, where is 46 chromosomes? Are you going outside the Bible to define it?
Lol you don’t know that human dna is in the Bible? The serpent spoke 46 words to Eve in the garden.... hint hint, what is the serpent.
 
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You people are like biblically illiterate. No wonder y’all think I’m insane.