Baptism of fire
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you're not FIGHTING anything with scripture! if its was true you would!
BUT ITS LIES AND YOU CAN NOT DEFEND IT.
you're on your own then....you and all the others who push that OTHER GOSPEL which is leading to another christ.
anything i post is for people who care about TRUTH over their own "ministries" and are willing to face they were deceived by dispensationalist deceivers.
people who "don't want to know" are NOT overcomers. they are APOSTATES.
BUT ITS LIES AND YOU CAN NOT DEFEND IT.
you're on your own then....you and all the others who push that OTHER GOSPEL which is leading to another christ.
anything i post is for people who care about TRUTH over their own "ministries" and are willing to face they were deceived by dispensationalist deceivers.
people who "don't want to know" are NOT overcomers. they are APOSTATES.
I don't think you understand that scripture correctly. i say this because there is no 'fire' in that particular scripture. If someone can convince me otherwise please post up what you might think is the truth.
God is a consuming fire yes, He consume His enemies with His fire so God's fire is not something you wane mess with.
God is a consuming fire yes, He consume His enemies with His fire so God's fire is not something you wane mess with.
Yes, the bush was burning yet it was not consumed because God wanted Moses attention.. God the great 'I AM' He is Jesus Christ too.
Yes His angels is ministers to Him, they are like flaming warriors that 'devours' God's enemies.
The same as above...
Yes God is a consuming fire, He devours His enemies. He is also the Lion of Judah in fact God has 365 Names in the scripture.
Yea i wouldn't mess with that fire.
Yes His angels is ministers to Him, they are like flaming warriors that 'devours' God's enemies.
The same as above...
Yes God is a consuming fire, He devours His enemies. He is also the Lion of Judah in fact God has 365 Names in the scripture.
Yea i wouldn't mess with that fire.
R
These are two different things.
It easy to take them and put them together and form a question form something from it.
The fire Jesus is refers to is the fire of hell in matthew 3:10. But the fire of the Holy Spirit is not the fire of hell. It is as we read that every man's works will be tried by fire, and that which is good will remain but that which cannot withstand the fire will be burned up.
Now, we heard that there are many vessels that the potter has formed, some to honor and some to dishonor. Even as gold and silver are purified by the fire, so is one who is baptized with this baptism.
No one is baptized by hell (If I understood the question correctly.)
May Jesus bless you.
It easy to take them and put them together and form a question form something from it.
The fire Jesus is refers to is the fire of hell in matthew 3:10. But the fire of the Holy Spirit is not the fire of hell. It is as we read that every man's works will be tried by fire, and that which is good will remain but that which cannot withstand the fire will be burned up.
Now, we heard that there are many vessels that the potter has formed, some to honor and some to dishonor. Even as gold and silver are purified by the fire, so is one who is baptized with this baptism.
No one is baptized by hell (If I understood the question correctly.)
May Jesus bless you.
D
And I believe this people that dont believe in the holy fire are post tribber if I am not mistaken...
They say they have the truth, but they dont...
They think because the word fire is used for bad, it cannot be use for good
For example water
Water is good to drink
but it also bad because people can drown
and what about the word spirit
We know the word spirit is for demons, but it is also use for angels and God.
and what about angels... We know angels are the angel of God, but also they are demons...
John 8:32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.
Find the truth my friends..... It will set you FREE
They say they have the truth, but they dont...
They think because the word fire is used for bad, it cannot be use for good
For example water
Water is good to drink
but it also bad because people can drown
and what about the word spirit
We know the word spirit is for demons, but it is also use for angels and God.
and what about angels... We know angels are the angel of God, but also they are demons...
John 8:32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.
Find the truth my friends..... It will set you FREE
R
Well, I don't know anything about these things.
Jesus showed me very clearly that I am not to learn from people about him. And I was very saddened when he showed me the mess that was going on. I could not believe how many people believed the numerous phony gospels and messages, that came from prominent pulpits. But most of those pulpits will lead many to the pit.
So I don't know what ''holy fire'' is. I don't count on my weak brain to understand it, but if the Lord said he will baptize me with the Holy Spirit and with Fire, I say, ''LORD, GIVE ME YOUR HOLY SPIRIT, AND YOUR FIRE!!''
And if the Lord says, that bad trees get cut down and thrown into the fire, I say, ''LORD DELIVER ME FROM THE FIRE!!!''
May Jesus bless you.
Jesus showed me very clearly that I am not to learn from people about him. And I was very saddened when he showed me the mess that was going on. I could not believe how many people believed the numerous phony gospels and messages, that came from prominent pulpits. But most of those pulpits will lead many to the pit.
So I don't know what ''holy fire'' is. I don't count on my weak brain to understand it, but if the Lord said he will baptize me with the Holy Spirit and with Fire, I say, ''LORD, GIVE ME YOUR HOLY SPIRIT, AND YOUR FIRE!!''
And if the Lord says, that bad trees get cut down and thrown into the fire, I say, ''LORD DELIVER ME FROM THE FIRE!!!''
May Jesus bless you.
R
Amen, his blood washes away sins.
We can make this a discussion with nothing in-between, as I love to discuss these things. I am not trying to prove anything. Not at all.
There are many things that I would LOVE to discuss, but I cannot, until I see if someone is there to discuss with.
So, let's discuss this, and make this a good thread.
What I said was that the fire tries the DEEDS of the man. So that any deeds that don't hold up, will be worthless to him. This is the trying by fire.
But what this requires is a solid understanding of baptism. The Lord has not made it 100% clear about this baptism to me yet, so I cannot assume any knowledge about it, neither will I accept any until the Lord shows me.
But he has shown me a LITTLE about the fire as purification. Now, if fire gets onto wood, it will burn, or hay, it will burn, or stubble, it will burn. But silver and gold are purified by fire, not burned. They do not consume away, though they do melt.
So, with this small mind, I cannot assume anything. If it is good to be gold and silver, I desire to be gold and silver (speaking of spiritual things), and if it is bad to be gold and silver, I desire to be wood and stubble. But I want my deeds to stand the fire, so I am sure gold and silver is best.
Because after the smith purifies the gold and silver of its natural elements, he can then beat it and shape it into a tool that he could use to carry out his work. But it has to be purified first.
Many things the Lord gives to reveal to us our old natures and the natures of himself, and the nature of those who abide in him.
May Jesus bless you.
We can make this a discussion with nothing in-between, as I love to discuss these things. I am not trying to prove anything. Not at all.
There are many things that I would LOVE to discuss, but I cannot, until I see if someone is there to discuss with.
So, let's discuss this, and make this a good thread.
What I said was that the fire tries the DEEDS of the man. So that any deeds that don't hold up, will be worthless to him. This is the trying by fire.
But what this requires is a solid understanding of baptism. The Lord has not made it 100% clear about this baptism to me yet, so I cannot assume any knowledge about it, neither will I accept any until the Lord shows me.
But he has shown me a LITTLE about the fire as purification. Now, if fire gets onto wood, it will burn, or hay, it will burn, or stubble, it will burn. But silver and gold are purified by fire, not burned. They do not consume away, though they do melt.
So, with this small mind, I cannot assume anything. If it is good to be gold and silver, I desire to be gold and silver (speaking of spiritual things), and if it is bad to be gold and silver, I desire to be wood and stubble. But I want my deeds to stand the fire, so I am sure gold and silver is best.
Because after the smith purifies the gold and silver of its natural elements, he can then beat it and shape it into a tool that he could use to carry out his work. But it has to be purified first.
Many things the Lord gives to reveal to us our old natures and the natures of himself, and the nature of those who abide in him.
May Jesus bless you.