I have read several posts where people think getting baptized in water SAVES you.
No, getting baptized in water is something you do because by the Grace of GOD you were SAVED.
Getting Baptized is a WORK, and we are NOT saved by Works, but rather by the GRACE of GOD.
Ephesians 2:8-10 (HCSB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For you are saved by grace through faith, and this is not from yourselves; it is God’s gift—
[SUP]9 [/SUP] not from works, so that no one can boast.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] For we are His creation, created in Christ Jesus for good works {What we do AFTER we are SAVED.}, which God prepared ahead of time so that we should walk in them.
Malachi 3:6 (NKJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] "For I am the LORD, I do not change; Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.
Therefore if we can find ONE example of HOW God saved somebody, we will know HOW God saves EVERYONE.
Romans 4:3-4 (HCSB)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] For what does the Scripture say? Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him for righteousness.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Now to the one who works, pay is not considered as a gift, but as something owed.
NOT Saving FAITH plus Water Baptism - as far as we know Abraham was NEVER Baptized in Water.
Abraham Believed GOD and that Genuine FAITH that was a FREE GIFT from GOD, is all that it took for Abraham to be SAVED, therefore that is HOW GOD SAVES ALL MEN. Sure genuine LOVE for GOD, produces a desire to obey HIM, but a genuine desire to Obey HIM, will NEVER produce Salvation. THAT IS A FREE GIFT FROM GOD BY HIS GRACE.
GRACE = Receiving what we do not deserve and cannot EARN.
MERCY = NOT receiving what we DO deserve.
No, getting baptized in water is something you do because by the Grace of GOD you were SAVED.
Getting Baptized is a WORK, and we are NOT saved by Works, but rather by the GRACE of GOD.
Ephesians 2:8-10 (HCSB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For you are saved by grace through faith, and this is not from yourselves; it is God’s gift—
[SUP]9 [/SUP] not from works, so that no one can boast.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] For we are His creation, created in Christ Jesus for good works {What we do AFTER we are SAVED.}, which God prepared ahead of time so that we should walk in them.
Malachi 3:6 (NKJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] "For I am the LORD, I do not change; Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.
Therefore if we can find ONE example of HOW God saved somebody, we will know HOW God saves EVERYONE.
Romans 4:3-4 (HCSB)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] For what does the Scripture say? Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him for righteousness.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Now to the one who works, pay is not considered as a gift, but as something owed.
NOT Saving FAITH plus Water Baptism - as far as we know Abraham was NEVER Baptized in Water.
Abraham Believed GOD and that Genuine FAITH that was a FREE GIFT from GOD, is all that it took for Abraham to be SAVED, therefore that is HOW GOD SAVES ALL MEN. Sure genuine LOVE for GOD, produces a desire to obey HIM, but a genuine desire to Obey HIM, will NEVER produce Salvation. THAT IS A FREE GIFT FROM GOD BY HIS GRACE.
GRACE = Receiving what we do not deserve and cannot EARN.
MERCY = NOT receiving what we DO deserve.
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. {ordained: or, prepared}
11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: (Eph 2:9-16 KJV)
The works that don't save are those that Christ ablished, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, that is the Mosaic Law. We can look at Acts 15 and what happened at the Jerusalem council to see this issue addressed.
And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved. (Act 15:1 KJV)
2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.
3 And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren.
4 And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. {rose...: or, rose up, said they, certain}
6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.
13 And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me:
14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
22 Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:
24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth. {mouth: Gr. word}
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
(Act 15:1-29 KJV)
Notice verse one, there were men from Jerusalem telling the brethren they must be circumcised in order to be saved. When Paul went up to Jerusalem there were Pharisees who were believers who said the Gentiles need to be circumcised and keep the Law of Moses. These are the works that Paul is saying do not save. Nowhere does Paul reject good deeds. As a matter of fact he says those who continue doing good are seeking eternal life. If works played not role in salvation then all the doing good in the world wouldn't be seeking eternal life, yet Paul says that those who are doing good are seeking eternal life, therefore doing good is seeking eternal life. This is just the opposite of what many Christians claim. Paul's argument against works was directed to specific issue of his day and he most certainly is not saying that anything a person does is a work and that these cannot save. Many Christians reject the necessity of baptism based on this flawed idea of the works argument.