Baptized With The Holy Spirit
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Here is what I mean: This is a direct quote from Vines Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words - a very standard and accepted Bible dictionary:
baptizo = "to baptize," primarily a frequentative form of bapto, "to dip," was used among the Greeks to signify the dyeing of a garment, or the drawing of water by dipping a vessel into another, etc. Plutarchus uses it of the drawing of wine by dipping the cup into the bowl (Alexis, 67) and Plato, metaphorically, of being overwhelmed with questions
Those definitions and examples don't even come close to proving or saying that in every instance of its use that baptizo means "to immerse."
baptizo = "to baptize," primarily a frequentative form of bapto, "to dip," was used among the Greeks to signify the dyeing of a garment, or the drawing of water by dipping a vessel into another, etc. Plutarchus uses it of the drawing of wine by dipping the cup into the bowl (Alexis, 67) and Plato, metaphorically, of being overwhelmed with questions
Those definitions and examples don't even come close to proving or saying that in every instance of its use that baptizo means "to immerse."
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Except the inspired word here. The word for baptized in Mat 3:6 is
βαπτίζω baptízō, bap-tid'-zo; from a derivative of G911; to immerse, submerge; to make whelmed (i.e. fully wet); used only (in the New Testament) of ceremonial ablution, especially (technically) of the ordinance of Christian baptism:—Baptist, baptize, wash.
βαπτίζω baptízō, bap-tid'-zo; from a derivative of G911; to immerse, submerge; to make whelmed (i.e. fully wet); used only (in the New Testament) of ceremonial ablution, especially (technically) of the ordinance of Christian baptism:—Baptist, baptize, wash.
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There is no such thing as a universal invisible body made up of all believers. The "body" is an illustration of each and every NT church of the Lord Jesus Christ. Collectively, all believers are the family of God, not "the church". The family of God is not a covenant relationship. Israel and the Father are in covenant relationship (Old). Jesus and His espoused bride are in covenant relationship (New). Every child of God has a parent-child relationship with the Father, but Jesus and His bride (His churches collectively) are a Bridegroom-Bride, or Husband-Wife (covenant or marital) relationship, though the relationship has not been consumated yet.
Believers are immersed before they are fellowshipped into the local church. That's why John the Baptist was sent -- to prepare a material for Jesus to build that first church that He pastored for about three years or so.
Believers are immersed before they are fellowshipped into the local church. That's why John the Baptist was sent -- to prepare a material for Jesus to build that first church that He pastored for about three years or so.
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There is a command requiring Jesus' followers to walk in the Spirit, and
another command to be filled with the Spirit, but I've yet encountered
commands to be baptized with the Spirit and/or to be sealed with the Spirit.
Apparently those elements of the Christian faith are acts of God rather than
liturgical acts.
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There is a command requiring Jesus' followers to walk in the Spirit, and
another command to be filled with the Spirit, but I've yet encountered
commands to be baptized with the Spirit and/or to be sealed with the Spirit.
Apparently those elements of the Christian faith are acts of God rather than
liturgical acts.
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I am glad to see that some one has brought this point forward. Indeed, Jesus Christ is the Baptizer. As the Second Person of the Godhead manifested in the flesh, Christ does the "will" of His Father and the Holy Spirit does the "will" of Both. The Holy Spirit is sent by Jesus Christ to Regenerate an individual (single) and to empower His Church (corporate).
I believe it is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit not water baptism here is this Scripture.
1 Corinthians 12:13
The phrase "baptized into one body" in 1 Corinthians 12:13 is referring to baptism in the Holy Spirit. In the context of this passage, the apostle Paul is explaining that all Christians, regardless of their background or status, are united in one body by the Holy Spirit. This unity is not based on physical appearance or social status, but on the fact that all Christians have been baptized into the same Spirit.
The concept of baptism in the Holy Spirit is mentioned in several other places in the New Testament. In Acts 1:8, Jesus promises his disciples that they will "be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days hence." This promise is fulfilled in Acts 2:4, when the Holy Spirit descends upon the disciples and they begin to speak in tongues.
Baptism in the Holy Spirit is a powerful experience that can bring about a deep transformation in a person's life. It is a gift from God that empowers believers to live for him and to share his message with the world.
Help me Scripturally if I am wrong, please.
1 Corinthians 12:13
The phrase "baptized into one body" in 1 Corinthians 12:13 is referring to baptism in the Holy Spirit. In the context of this passage, the apostle Paul is explaining that all Christians, regardless of their background or status, are united in one body by the Holy Spirit. This unity is not based on physical appearance or social status, but on the fact that all Christians have been baptized into the same Spirit.
The concept of baptism in the Holy Spirit is mentioned in several other places in the New Testament. In Acts 1:8, Jesus promises his disciples that they will "be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days hence." This promise is fulfilled in Acts 2:4, when the Holy Spirit descends upon the disciples and they begin to speak in tongues.
Baptism in the Holy Spirit is a powerful experience that can bring about a deep transformation in a person's life. It is a gift from God that empowers believers to live for him and to share his message with the world.
Help me Scripturally if I am wrong, please.
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Agreed.
Whereas a person may profess belief and harbor unbelief, they could still get wet through baptism in water. By that act, that person is, ironically, joyfully included among those who insist getting wet is required to go to heaven. Mind you: Baptism in water is important. And it is important for salvation. This salvation is one from the pursuit of our Enemy. The Enemy has no claim against a dead man.
However, the Spirit is not so slack as to immerse someone, unworthy, into the Body of Christ. He knows our thoughts and heart. He never baptizes unbelievers into the Body of Christ. This is that baptism that secures our place in Christ. Such an act is never left to the hands of men. When the Spirit places us in the Body we are secure in Him, in Christ. This is the salvation that ensures our life is eternal.
We should not be shocked to admit that what passes as the church today includes all kinds of unbelievers. Their doors are wide open to the world. So let's not act surprised to learn that those same unbelievers are often dunked in water and included in the roles of the "saved". The Spirit never baptizes them into the Body but they'll have a place in the pews without contention.
Whereas a person may profess belief and harbor unbelief, they could still get wet through baptism in water. By that act, that person is, ironically, joyfully included among those who insist getting wet is required to go to heaven. Mind you: Baptism in water is important. And it is important for salvation. This salvation is one from the pursuit of our Enemy. The Enemy has no claim against a dead man.
However, the Spirit is not so slack as to immerse someone, unworthy, into the Body of Christ. He knows our thoughts and heart. He never baptizes unbelievers into the Body of Christ. This is that baptism that secures our place in Christ. Such an act is never left to the hands of men. When the Spirit places us in the Body we are secure in Him, in Christ. This is the salvation that ensures our life is eternal.
We should not be shocked to admit that what passes as the church today includes all kinds of unbelievers. Their doors are wide open to the world. So let's not act surprised to learn that those same unbelievers are often dunked in water and included in the roles of the "saved". The Spirit never baptizes them into the Body but they'll have a place in the pews without contention.
Those are only two of the things done by the Holy Spirit. But there is no question whatsoever that Spirit baptizes or joins each believer to the Body of Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one Body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (1 Cor 12:13).
καὶ γὰρ ἐν ἑνὶ πνεύματι ἡμεῖς πάντες εἰς ἓν σῶμα ἐβαπτίσθημεν εἴτε Ἰουδαῖοι εἴτε Ἕλληνες εἴτε δοῦλοι εἴτε ἐλεύθεροι καὶ πάντες εἰς ἓν πνεῦμα ἐποτίσθημεν
καὶ γὰρ ἐν ἑνὶ πνεύματι ἡμεῖς πάντες εἰς ἓν σῶμα ἐβαπτίσθημεν εἴτε Ἰουδαῖοι εἴτε Ἕλληνες εἴτε δοῦλοι εἴτε ἐλεύθεροι καὶ πάντες εἰς ἓν πνεῦμα ἐποτίσθημεν
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I was trying to teach you something you've probably never heard. Protestants got their Universal Church Theory from the Catholics. Neither of which understand exactly what took place on the Day of Pentecost.
Matthew 15:12-14 states, "Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended . . . But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch."
Matthew 15:12-14 states, "Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended . . . But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch."
Water Baptism has been compared to the Burial of Jesus [full immersion]. and when we come out of the water, it's the same when He Resurrected.
Colossians 2:12. And you were buried with him in baptism, and in it you arose with him, because you believed in the power of God who raised him from among the dead.
Colossians 2:12. And you were buried with him in baptism, and in it you arose with him, because you believed in the power of God who raised him from among the dead.