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Like your twisting of marriage? True marriage is not how we view it today. In God's eyes all flesh is in unison to the spirit given it. I'm me for better or worse, till death pull us apart! That is why the woman (spirit) is free to marry another upon the death of the husband (flesh).
 
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#22
it is easy to prove the truth if you just
get your bible
e-swod
or concordance and just click on the word
get the real meaning
and 90 percent of the arguments vanish

the interesting thing is
the false hearted people when exposed they never acknowledge they were wrong they go away and come back later with a new argument

I think it would be good on chat that if there is a disagreement
and verses are presented
until on a certain point
the weight of evidence is taken and the jury says
the weight of verses and evidence shows this or that.
with acknowledgement of who was correct
then you can bring another word or verse in.
 
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#23
Like your twisting of marriage? True marriage is not how we view it today. In God's eyes all flesh is in unison to the spirit given it. I'm me for better or worse, till death pull us apart! That is why the woman (spirit) is free to marry another upon the death of the husband (flesh).
exactly

you tell me i am twisting
when you are

If the spouses die you may remarry
if they are alive they may not
 
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#24
exactly

you redifine the word PUT AWAY as DEATH
which it is not
you twist

the original word is DIVORCE
while still alive

thanks for bringing it up

they turned the word DIVORCE into a word that LOOKS LIKE DATH
exactly!
they twisted it
why didnt they just lie and say DEATH instead of put away?

becasue they want it twisted



"Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:" -Matthew 5:27.

"But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." -Matthew 5:28.

no twisting there


"But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away (DIVORCE - look it up)
his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery." -Matthew 5:32.

no twisting there

"And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away (DIVORCE - look it up) his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery." -Matthew 19:9.

no tisting there

"He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness," -Matthew 19:18.

"And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, (DIVORCE - look it up)
and marry another, committeth adultery against her." -Mark 10:11.

"And if a woman shall put away(DIVORCE - look it up)
her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery." -Mark 10:12.

"Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother." -Mark 10:19.

"Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery." -Luke 16:18.

"Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother." -Luke 18:20.

"And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst," -John 8:3.

"They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act." -John 8:4.

"Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?" -Romans 2:22.

"For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." -Romans 13:9.

"Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness," -Galatians 5:19.

"For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law." -James 2:11.

"Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:" -2 Peter 2:14.

"Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds." -Revelation 2:22.
 
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#25
so'to expose the twisting God provided another verse

"And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away (DIVORCE - look it up) his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery." -Matthew 19:9.

dead people cant marry

so put away does not mean death!
it means DIVORCE

it is divorce!

you cant win sorry.

Dicorce is the wine of babylon fornication

pretty good twist you had there
you a pastor?
 
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exactly

you tell me i am twisting
when you are

If the spouses die you may remarry
if they are alive they may not
1 Corinthians 7

39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.
 
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#27
That is an example of a very sly twist which you could only learn in a seminary
thats why they have seminaries it takes them three years who to twist the Bible to fit their doctrines that are not biblical
 
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#28
Back to perversion

they take common redefined words to misapply them
like saying PUT AWAY is DEATH

it is not.
 
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#30
But if w=both are alive they may not remarry
I never said dead people partners cannot remarry
that is your false accusation

I have always sauid those who are alive and divorce may not remarry


if your partner dies you may remarry as long as the other partner was not married
in the lord
 
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#31
"And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away (DIVORCE - look it up) his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another (non dead person), committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away(she is still living) doth commit adultery." -Matthew 19:9.
 
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#32
Bible says it not me
I dont minde what you do
God minds what you do
he said NO DIVORCING AND REMARRYING
orr you are in adultery
 
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#33
back to perversinon
thank you for the good example how churches twist bible texts, build strawmen and then falsly attribute things not said to obfuscate the topic and continue on in sinning.
 
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#34
When the church started to believe one cannot stop sinning the rest is history.
 
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so'to expose the twisting God provided another verse

"And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away (DIVORCE - look it up) his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery." -Matthew 19:9.

dead people cant marry

so put away does not mean death!
it means DIVORCE

it is divorce!

you cant win sorry.

Dicorce is the wine of babylon fornication

pretty good twist you had there
you a pastor?
When a man who is gay tries to be straight, he had divorced his spirit. But remember the flesh and the spirit are inseparable until death. What that means is somehow someway that man (flesh) will go back to his spirit whether in thought or in deed and the result being:

Jeremiah 3

3 They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the Lord.
 
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#36
you cannot marry one who is put away
dead people dont marry
so
whoever marries one who is DIVIRCED is in adultry

God never said whoever marries a widow
God said whoever marries a DIVORCEE is in adultery
thanks for letting me clarify again.

Rev 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
Rev 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.



imagine what God will do with perversionists
 
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But if w=both are alive they may not remarry
I never said dead people partners cannot remarry
that is your false accusation

I have always sauid those who are alive and divorce may not remarry


if your partner dies you may remarry as long as the other partner was not married
in the lord
why think like this? Remember our patriarchs? They had multiple women and yet you believe this?

In the days of chain slavery, the songs and words being used by them were coded so that the masters did not know the plan. That is how the bible is written as well.
 
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#38
Because Jesus told us to
thats why

learn to obey
 
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#39
God is the King
he tells us what to do
we obey in love
He has promises that in the last days
we should not be in adultery.

it is called sanctification
 
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#40
faith is obedience
why should eve be given an apple and not able to eat it?
its a test

so is divorce remarriage
it is a test
who do you love
self or God?

those who obey will go through the plagues, its worth it