Belief in God: Is it logical?

[homwardbound]

Searching, they know down deep something is missing and love is the most difficult thing for science to understand.

No flesh understands and or knows true Love of God and can't Fathom it or see it until born again in the Spirit of God where is the only place God can be worshipped
John 4:23 But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
John 4:24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

 

[homwardbound]

But it doesn't have to be one God. It just has to be FAITH
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to homewardbound : I know what you mean, brother, when you said 'something put this all together.' Right there, we know that we can either have faith that 'someone' put it altogether or 'some thing,' because 'something,' I don't think works for atheists or Christians, does it ?

Something made this Earth happen . No, some thing, a big bang or a big God or a big God who caused a big bang. Those, kind of, are our ONLY choices, aren't they. Or, do you believe in aliens, someones we've never REALLY seen but, maybe, through your faith in seeing flying saucers in photos, or, hearing stories of people who were abducted by aliens.

Hmmm, I don't see any bible on alien abductions anywhere, no proof, like a bible that has been believed, through faith, by more people than any other religion in the entire 9 billion plus people world.

Yeah, I know WHAT I choose to believe and it's not a 'what' at all, actually, it's a 'who,' it's a 'some One.'

Funny you speak Alien. Is Christ not an Alien!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Is this world his? NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so he is an Alien.
Let us see and he was taken up on a cloud, is that Logical?
No matter what, God is LOVE, and this planet world of Humans can't figure that out being born of the flesh.
Just read 1 Cor. 13:4-13 in the flesh and see your failure in the flesh.
Then ask God for the born again nature and receive this type of Love in 1 cor. 13:4-13 in the Spirit.
And you know no flesh will enter the kingdom, that unless born again in God's Spirit we shall not see the kingdom.
What??? become Aliens ourselves to this world, being born again and loving all as God does, never taking away another's free will. Now is that Love or what.
So are we Alien's or not when born again? we are aren't we to this worlds jealous ways

 

[homwardbound]

@Angela53510


Now, as for how I deal with any mistakes I make, If I had to break my approach to life into five key points they would be as follows:

1) Self-Growth: I continually try to better myself, even if my quest goes against the status quo or the established hierarchy.

2) No Limitations: Most of the limitations we have are self-imposed. Through the process of self-reflection, I can identify my own purpose and meaning and cast of these imposed limitations.

3) Creative Destruction: I don’t fear failure. I embrace failure as a learning opportunity. The problem arrises when you cannot deal with failure.

4) Reluctant Leadership: I have a responciblity to set an example through demonstration. If I see a need in my community & posess the talent and will to address it, it becomes a duty (in other words, don’t take positions for egocentric reasons)

5) Passing the Torch: I have to know when it is time to step aside so future generations can progress. Holding a position of authority for to long can lead to complacency in both the leaders and the followers.

“Dealing with my sins” falls under the category of creative destruction. I admit that I’m going to make mistakes. I don’t define myself by these mistakes, but rather how I respond to them (ie. do I reflect, learn, grow and make amends?).

I like what you wrote here and I see most not all Christians doing the same as you just posted, yet they add a belief in God to be able to do this, Belief does do a lot, if there are no doubts.
And so since no one is or can be obedient to God 100% in and of themselves, (If there is a God) as I hear you might believe this or might not, since you are asking other opinions about God being real the creator of all.

Just look around at the creation, forget about what man has built or building in all his wisdom. Take a deep breath, do you feel that, did man make this? is it just here? how did it get here? in all your life at 22, you seem to me to have attained much knowledge. And tell me can you by the time you die here on earth know all there is to know? Let's say by the time you die, out of 100% knowledge to know you got 20% of it, is that a fair assessment? So out of the other 80% to learn and know, could there not be a creator to this planet and universe known today as God?
Now the only book that has ever survived the farthest is the Bible. Christ's resurrection and death never came to nothing.
And is still here to this day.
I do not know your family or their interpretation of the word. I do know this though if I do not Love as God loves which is unconditional, then I can't nor will claim to know God.
I say since I believe God created us all, how can anyone ever say that God does not love us. If you were the creator and your creation slipped up through free choice unto death, would you do your best to restore them by love or force them to love?

this is what God did for us all through his Son it is a done deal and up to us whether we believe God or not
[h=3]Colossians 1:22[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]22 [/SUP]in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight—

The above is God's restoration for you to be back in the arms of a loving God and then by this you do those things you said you are after to do.

 

[homwardbound]

I don't feel the belief in GOD is illogical for those that are predestined to believe.That is given to them before they ever come to exist and it manifests when its GODS will for that to occur in ones life.

And I see this is occurring in yours as well, praise be to God forever and ever

 

[homwardbound]

In mathmatical terms(since that this the MOST acceptable type of logic to all athiests) there are two improbabilities in math. Zero and Pi. Which is everything and nothing, because no matter how many times you divide zero you will always end up with zero and no matter how many times you divide Pi, you will never be able to end up with one number, Pi will always be Pi. Everything inbetween Zero and Pi will always be logical and the same no matter how you divide or multiply, subtract, ect.

1+1=2 <---That is a fact that will never change. You can change the structure of an equation and throw in fractions, multiplcation, decimals and the equation will change and equal something else but no matter what you do you will find a definite answer that will always be the same. See, this is life.

God is zero because it will never change, you cannot divide(dissect) it and it is the beginning and the end. Zero represents order in the mathematical world.

Pi is everything. It is chaotic and just...everything.

Most scientists are incapable of digging deeper and only see numbers, not answers. God gave us scientists so that we have formulas and processes to better understand the world around us and to understand that we are created in God's image which is why all Christians will tell you that God gave us logic and reason.

Not only was math and science created by early mesopotamians and arabs, but it was discovered in "the cradle of creation".

Well I see God as one, and 1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1 always =1. And each time one believes and stays with that belief they are one in God with God
Thanks for the post. Oh and also since God is the A-Z, and we get caught between the B and the Y, let us just move on through to the Z and see truth in God

 

[ob77]

Logic is necessarily for being able to understand the possible and the impossible. Unless it can be demonstrate that the rules of logic are invalid, gods must adhere to them. Currently all conceptualizations of gods at current fall under the following two categories: Logically Possible or Logically impossible.

Logically Imp

Something that is logically impossible is self-defaeating, fallacious or paradoxical. For example, Claiming that “A” is “not ‘a’” is a self-defeating statement and can be demonstrated as false. Practical Examples: it is logically impossible to 1) Draw a circular square, 2) Put joy in a box 3) Sink to the top of a lake 4) be perfectly good and commit acts of evil, etc.

While it is nearly impossible to text the existence of supernatural beings by conventional methods; In this sense, if a religion assigns traits, behaviours or characteristics to a god that are logically impossible we can know that such a being does not exist.


Logically Possible:

Something that is logically possible is potentially true. For example, if you were to see an odd stone formation it is not illogical to consider the possibility that someone designed it. For instance, Both Arches National Park in Utah and the Ale’s Stone Monument in Sweden appear designed; however, only one is man-made.

If something is logically possible we cannot claim with certainty that it is untrue. At this point, we can only weigh in on it being resolvable or unresolvable. If there is adequate evidence we can claim with a decent degree of certainty that it is (or is not) true. However, if there is not adequate evidence it is unresolvable and any comments on its accuracy are mere speculation. If it is unresolvable there is not justifiable reason to accept it as true or claim with certainty that it is false.

The Question:

How does God fit into all of this? Do you believe that God is logically possible? Do you think God is subject to these rules of logic? If yes, do you believe that there is adequate evidence to justify a belief in god, what evidence is this? If you think this is unresolvable, how do you rationalize your faith?

I believe that this post is b.s., that is what I believe, and since I believe it, it must be true, otherwise I would not believe it. Or would I believe it if it were a lie, Or would I believe it if it were..................stop posting nonsense.

 

[ob77]

I think you misunderstand Blain,

An example: It is impossible to move an immovable object. If you can move an immovable object then it is not immovable. This is a paradox, as such is it impossible to do. Arguing that God can preform paradoxes (ie. being perfectly good but committing immoral acts, drawing circular squares, etc.) Paradoxes leads to a conclusions that are logically unacceptable or self-contradictory.

Are you suggesting that logic does not apply to god? If so, how do you deal with these paradoxes?

mental masturbation.