BIBLE VERSES EXPLAINING SOME TEACHINGS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

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Jackson123

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John 21:25 King James Version (KJV)

25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

Let me make additional analysis

Is that verse above the reason pray to Mary is not in the Bible but it is one of the teaching of Jesus?

Not enough space to wrote please pray to Mary, Mary is when of heaven, God take her body to heaven.

Only need one line.

If we read bible, matt, mark, Luke john, a lot of repeatation story.

If the reason not enough ink, ink savings, why not delete the story that already in Matthew from mark ets.

So they have enough ink to wrote Mary is queen of heaven.

The fact that Mary as queen of heaven and able to hear billion catholic pray to her, not in the Bible is because she is not queen of heaven and not able to hear billions pray to her.

How ignorant is bible writer if not wrote the fact that pray to Mary will keep out a lot of trouble. If it is.

James 4:17 King James Version (KJV)

17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

Let it apply to this topic

Therefore to Him that know th that pray to Mary help and not wrote to him it is sin.

If apostle know pray to Mary help and not wrote in the Bible, to them it is sin.

I do not think apostle make this major mistake

Instead, I do believe catholic lie
 

garee

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I really don't understand the fascination about the flaws of the Catholic Church. Let's give some focus on the other denominations as well. It's as if some members feel threatened by this church.
The Catholic church is the only one that does it outwardly, boastfully, venerating (worshipping the flesh) of men for the work of Christ.

Its not the church "flesh and blood" that is the problem .But the idea that the Catholic doctrines as oral tradition of men. They do despite to the grace of God, as a damnable heresy, a word from where we get the word sect or opinions of a group of men.

They are the only sect I know that teaches Christ gives a unknow of amount of grace (a remnant) to all except for this Mary that they call the queen of Heaven. She according to Catholicism received the fullness of His grace (alone). Others again receive a unknown amount and must work suffering after they leave this realm under the sun, to fulfill a unknow amount of work as to a unknow degree of suffering in a place called purgatory, unknow in the scriptures .

Jesus, to the fullness of His grace alone, according to His work of faith, as a labor of His love alone. Do not leave earth without it .

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

No limbo in between. Either we beleive according to His work of faith that works in us to both will and do His good pleasure or we seek our own pleasure, called purgatory . A righteousness imputed to Christ sufferings alone, or a self righteousness imputed to the flesh .

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he Nin the name of the only begotten Son of God.
 

garee

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Amen. Let me ask you this, Our Lord suggests that some sins can be forgiven in the world to come. If this is the case then how does this happen and where does this take place?
God's word infallibly informs us neither in the world to come . No suggestion of sins forgiven in the world to come . Sin has no place in the world to come.
 

Nehemiah6

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I really don't understand the fascination about the flaws of the Catholic Church. Let's give some focus on the other denominations as well. It's as if some members feel threatened by this church.
Well it was jameen (evidently a Roman Catholic) who posted the OP so he is the one *fascinated* with his church and want to let the world know how wonderful it is.
 

tourist

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Well it was jameen (evidently a Roman Catholic) who posted the OP so he is the one *fascinated* with his church and want to let the world know how wonderful it is.
How right you are my good man. :)
 

Jackson123

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Anyone can refute the verses quoted and explain why it is incorrect to use those verses to justify a Catholic teaching.

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About oral tradition you give this verse. I do not know if delivered always mean oral. Paul wrote a letter as well. Yes oral or written doctrine by Paul are inspire by Holy Spirit and consistence, not oppose each other. Now we have written teaching. And I do believe that is enough,

My question is wich of catholic teaching come from apostle oral teaching and how you prove it?



1 Corinthians 11:2 King James Version (KJV)
2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
 
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Anyone can refute the verses quoted and explain why it is incorrect to use those verses to justify a Catholic teaching.

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Faith alone

I think there is a lot of discussion in this topic. Catholic misunderstood what is the definition of faith. Some people think faith in Jesus only mean believe that Jesus is God.

It is more than that. Faith in Jesus mean invite Jesus to be our leader, to let Him drives our life. Holy Spirit will be the King in all our decisions. It will produce good work, loving work.

Salvation is by faith alone, but there is correlation between faith and work.
 

garee

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About oral tradition you give this verse. I do not know if delivered always mean oral. Paul wrote a letter as well. Yes oral or written doctrine by Paul are inspire by Holy Spirit and consistence, not oppose each other. Now we have written teaching. And I do believe that is enough,

My question is wich of catholic teaching come from apostle oral teaching and how you prove it?



1 Corinthians 11:2 King James Version (KJV)
2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
The oral tradition that is of God it becomes the written tradition . No difference between the two. The written confirms the oral tradition .

It's the oral tradition of men as commands of men that do make the written tradition of God to no effect. No man can serve two teaching masters. The thing of God and those of men . It becomes where are the doctrine of God inspired from, earthy of the devil as the book of James informs us , or do they fall from heaven like rain or dew used in parables to signify the work of the Holy Spirit, by hiding the spiritual understanding from those who seek after the things of men ?

Deuteronomy 32:2 My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:

You could say Peter tried to prove it by starting a oral tradition of men as a rumor because of his jealously for John. Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy in respect the the Son of man seen over and over.

Why the Catholics choose Peter and not John or one of the other disciples makes me wonder who was really behind it .

Jesus corrected the lie and said if every time he dispelled a lying rumor as a oral tradition of men and it was written down, the world would not be able to contain the book that could be written.

The Catholic us that same portion to protect the oral tradition of men that do make the word of God without effect.

This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee? Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do? Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me. Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true. And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. AmenJOIhn21:19-25
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garee

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Faith alone

I think there is a lot of discussion in this topic. Catholic misunderstood what is the definition of faith. Some people think faith in Jesus only mean believe that Jesus is God.

It is more than that. Faith in Jesus mean invite Jesus to be our leader, to let Him drives our life. Holy Spirit will be the King in all our decisions. It will produce good work, loving work.

Salvation is by faith alone, but there is correlation between faith and work.
Yes there is a correlation. Christ's work of faith as a labor of His love alone .Faith is a work. It provides the grace of God, coming from the work of God as the work which works in us to both will, as the food of God that the disciples knew not of, and do His good pleasure as we work with Him (imputed righteousness). Faith is the gift, not of ourselves.

He will not forget the work we showed towards him, yoked with Him, and again of Him.