BIBLE VERSES EXPLAINING SOME TEACHINGS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

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epostle

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First, a passage from the Bible about the Queen of Heaven!

”16 Then the Lord said, “As for you, Jeremiah, do not pray for these people! Do not cry out to me or petition me on their behalf! Do not plead with me to save them, because I will not listen to you. 17 Do you see what they are doing in the towns of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem? 18 Children are gathering firewood, fathers are building fires with it, and women are mixing dough to bake cakes to offer to the goddess they call the Queen of Heaven. They are also pouring out drink offerings to other gods. They seem to do all this just to trouble me. 19 But I am not really the one being troubled!” says the Lord. “Rather they are bringing trouble on themselves to their own shame! 20 So,” the Lord God says, “my raging fury will be poured out on this land. It will be poured out on human beings and animals, on trees and crops. And it will burn like a fire which cannot be extinguished.”

Quite simply, the Queen of a Heaven was a false goddess. By offering to her, whether veneretion or cakes, you are worshipping a false God!

The result is God is angry and and his wrath will get poured out on those that worship her.

I can’t understand why anyone would make Mary, who was the mother of Jesus, into a pagan goddess whose worship results in God’s wrath! That is wilful ignorance about what the Bible says!
Some Evangelicals have problems with this "Queen" thing. Perhaps the best way to explain it is to compare Heaven to the Commonwealth. We live in a time when the Queen of England is the highest in the Commonwealth. There is no king. She wears the commonwealth trousers. She is it. She is the focus. We grew up singing "God save the Queen." So it is natural that our contemporary understanding of the word Queen would be someone in highest authority. But what happens to the queen when there is a king? Then who has the authority? In commonwealth law, when there is a king, the queen has absolutely no authority whatsoever except the quiet whisper in the king's ear to influence a decision. (Jn 2:3)

JESUS IS KING. He is it. Now if Mary is Queen, it means that she has no authority whatsoever over his decisions except a whisper in his ear (Jn 2:3). We call Mary the Queen without diminishing the King's (Jesus') authority in the least. In fact it reinforces it. What respectable King does not have a Queen? Revelation 12:1 says:

12 :1 A great portent appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. 2 She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pangs, in the agony of giving birth. Then the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, so that he might devour her child as soon as it was born. 5 And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron. But her child was snatched away and taken to God and to his throne.. aa wings.jpg
Jesus only had one Mother and this passage is talking about the woman that gave birth to the Saviour. She has a Crown. The passage also clearly shows Mary as an active participant in the war against the devil. The passage presents Jesus on his rightful throne.


If you are afraid to talk to Mary, I invite you to Pray to Jesus about Mary. I'm sure any Evangelical would say it is perfectly safe to pray to Jesus about anything. Ask Jesus what's up with Mary. Give him time to respond. We pray you have the same experience that has led to my powerful convictions about the validity of Mary as a helper for the helpless, and a great prayer warrior.

 

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Some Evangelicals have problems with this "Queen" thing. Perhaps the best way to explain it is to compare Heaven to the Commonwealth. We live in a time when the Queen of England is the highest in the Commonwealth. There is no king. She wears the commonwealth trousers. She is it. She is the focus. We grew up singing "God save the Queen." So it is natural that our contemporary understanding of the word Queen would be someone in highest authority. But what happens to the queen when there is a king? Then who has the authority? In commonwealth law, when there is a king, the queen has absolutely no authority whatsoever except the quiet whisper in the king's ear to influence a decision. (Jn 2:3)

JESUS IS KING. He is it. Now if Mary is Queen, it means that she has no authority whatsoever over his decisions except a whisper in his ear (Jn 2:3). We call Mary the Queen without diminishing the King's (Jesus') authority in the least. In fact it reinforces it. What respectable King does not have a Queen? Revelation 12:1 says:

12 :1 A great portent appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. 2 She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pangs, in the agony of giving birth. Then the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, so that he might devour her child as soon as it was born. 5 And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron. But her child was snatched away and taken to God and to his throne.. View attachment 187057
Jesus only had one Mother and this passage is talking about the woman that gave birth to the Saviour. She has a Crown. The passage also clearly shows Mary as an active participant in the war against the devil. The passage presents Jesus on his rightful throne.


If you are afraid to talk to Mary, I invite you to Pray to Jesus about Mary. I'm sure any Evangelical would say it is perfectly safe to pray to Jesus about anything. Ask Jesus what's up with Mary. Give him time to respond. We pray you have the same experience that has led to my powerful convictions about the validity of Mary as a helper for the helpless, and a great prayer warrior.


There have been Kings that have ruled with no Queen.
Therefore, your analogy is completely false of the earthly to heavenly kingdom.
Jesus does not need anyone whispering in His ear, that is just bizarre, are we talking about God the creator of the universe or some demi God of mythology like Apollo?

Mary is NOT Queen of Heaven.

You are promoting mythology.

It is under the title of Mary, the goddess of the sea, that the Roman Catholic church worships Diana (who was chaste in mythology) or Semiramis, the Queen of Heaven. This is why water, the color blue (as well as blue-green), seashells, and waves of the sea are all symbols that the Catholic church uses for Mary.

All unhidden in plain site for those who have eyes.
 

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Why then do you use "father" in only one way?

Matt. 23:9 – Jesus says, “call no man father.” But Protestants use this verse in an attempt to prove that it is wrong for Catholics to call priests “father.” This is an example of “eisegesis” (imposing one’s views upon a passage) as opposed to “exegesis” (drawing out the meaning of the passage from its context). In this verse, Jesus was discouraging His followers from elevating the scribes and Pharisees to the titles of “fathers” and “rabbis” because they were hypocrites. Jesus warns us not to elevate anyone to the level of our heavenly Father.
I use it in three ways fathers. One as to those who have human children . Two Father(singular) as to our spiritual Father in heaven, and three fathers in respect to a law of fathers as oral traditions of men .Men who appose all thing written in the law and the prophets .as the kind of father Christ called a brood of vipers.

Paul before his conversion having all the right credentials had a false zeal for knowing God as a "law of the fathers" (oral traditions) of men. As that which Catholicism has labeled as "apostolic succession" .Men following other men teaching, men as that seen must teach usurping the promise of the Holy Spirit not seen.

It make sola scriptura (all thing written in the law and the prophets) without effect. Therefore as it is written receiving letter of approval from the high priest or in the case of Catholicism the Pope. Like during the fifteenth century reformation in order to persecute to death the true Christians that walked by faith and not by sight . They walked by sight killing the misperceived competition as in out of sight out of mind.

I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women. As also the high priest doth bear me witness, and all the estate of the elders: from whom also I received letters unto the brethren, and went to Damascus, to bring them which were there bound unto Jerusalem, for to be punished. Acts 22:2-5

Saul now converted as Paul and as member of a another denomination (sect) called the way or the Nazarenes as one of the leaders became a target of those from his previous sect. The catholic sect is not listed in the scriptures)

They as a law of men insisted on keeping the law of the fathers the oral traditions of men as our law(verse 6)

For we have found this man a pestilent fellow, and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes: Who also hath gone about to profane the temple: whom we took, and would have judged according to our law.Acts 24 :5-6

They tried to prove all things written in the law and the prohets was heresy and not the actual law of God not seen But they could not seing they would be shooting their ownselveves in the foot

Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me. But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: (sola scriptura) Acts24:13-14

Paul using the words "fathers" in the correct way. (so worship I the God of my fathers)

Not as the Pharisees and Catholics... who say so we worship (venerate) the fathers as if we worshipped our one Father in heaven. Scripture clearly said call no man on earth father .

Its the same kind error of the fathers under Judaism made that would not hear the word of God . They usurped the authority of our father in heaven my using the name Abraham in respect to his flesh as unto our father in heaven ,

Christ reveals that in one of "think not" doctrines. Simply replace the name Abraham with Peter and we know who is behind it (the father of lies the god of this world ) .

Note … (purple in parenthesis) my added comment

Matthew 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham (Peter) to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham (Peter) .

Call no man on earth Holy Father, Holy See, among many other tittles for one is our Father of spirts in heaven not 3500 and rinsing(patron saints)

2 Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
 

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Than why pope promote one world government

https://prophecyinthenews.com/world...ls-for-one-world-government-to-save-humanity/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/10/25/the-vatican-calls-for-world-government/




https://yournewswire.com/pope-francis-one-world-government/

Be honest friend do not cover the fact. The fact is pope promote one world government, the antichrist government that predict in the bible.

Seem to me you are dishonest by say there is No such thing in the bible, than you say muslim rule one world government. Wich one of you 2 statement honest? If you say muslim Will rule nwo, mean you believe there is nwo, If you say there is No such thing than proof that you liar when you say muslim Will rule in nwo. I hope you honest.
What you're doing is listening to people even more misled than you are. The pope isn't promoting a one world religion, he's just advocating to pray for peace and love between the world's different religions!

How the Protestant's love to distort the popes message just to promote their own false teachings and agenda. And people fall for it line, hook, and sinker!

I challenge anyone on this forum to quote ONE verse of prophecy implicating Rome in any way. You can't do it because ONE does NOT exist!
 

epostle

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Regarding the myth that Mary had no other children, I was just reading this passage, last night!
Yea, and modernist liberal Protestants came along in the 19th century and corrected 300 years of reformist error.....right.
“A crowd was sitting around him and they said to him, “Look, your mother and your brothers are outside looking for you.” 33 He answered them and said, “Who are my mother and my brothers?” 34 And looking at those who were sitting around him in a circle, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! 35 For whoever does the will of God is my brother and sister and mother.” Mark 3:32-35

First, Jesus real mother and brothers were standing outside, physically! Brothers = AdelphoI = ἀδελφοί. This means brothers, not cousin. Besides, no Jewish man would live celebate, in order to do something unnecessary, keep Mary a sort-of virgin! Because, having a baby, even one created by the Holy Spirit, realistically means a lot of major physical changes to the body, which are not present in a virgin. I believe Mary was a virgin, and the Holy Spirit helped her conceive, but she did not stay virgin,

Besides, Mary really isn’t that important the passage says above, Jesus is clear that birth connection means nothing compared to those that do the will of God.​
Biblical Mary I.Q. Test
1) Do you believe Jesus put His mother down in any way?
If that's the case, you are asserting that Jesus violated the 4th commandment by dishonoring His mother, making Jesus a sinner.
2) Do you dismiss the importance of Mary doing the will of God perfectly when she said to the angel, "Be it done unto me according to thy word"??? If Mary didn't do the will of God perfectly, how could Jesus have been born in the first place???
3) How can anybody do the will of God when the birth of Christ makes that possible in the first place???
4) Did you know you are in rebellion to the early reformers beliefs about Mary? They had "Catholic leftovers" because they didn't know their Bible???

You've been around a while. You must have seen explanations that refute your man made traditions that are less than 200 years old. These objections have been refuted a zillion times but that drum keeps pounding...

I know Marian theology is a major obstacle, and not understanding these things is common, even among some Catholics. I don't expect you or any Protestant to accept this stuff. But repeating the same misrepresentations over and over again for years, and refusing to understand any and all explanations, is prejudice and it is not from God.
Beating Catholics with a Mary stick is a Pharisaical abuse of Scripture. Nowhere in Scripture is scripture used to bash the Church, or Marian devotion, especially Marian devotion that is constantly misrepresented by Protestants. It's divisive. The worst is refuse, refuse, refuse, then bash some more. "Bible-Christian" sadism is not in the Bible.
If you are mentally incapable of over-riding prejudices about Marian devotion, I am asking you to stop beating Catholics with your anti-Mary stick. Not just for my sake but for yours as well.
Creating man made traditions (unheard of 200 years ago) that you claim to despise is self defeating.

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Some Evangelicals have problems with this "Queen" thing. Perhaps the best way to explain it is to compare Heaven to the Commonwealth. We live in a time when the Queen of England is the highest in the Commonwealth. There is no king. She wears the commonwealth trousers. She is it. She is the focus. We grew up singing "God save the Queen." So it is natural that our contemporary understanding of the word Queen would be someone in highest authority. But what happens to the queen when there is a king? Then who has the authority? In commonwealth law, when there is a king, the queen has absolutely no authority whatsoever except the quiet whisper in the king's ear to influence a decision. (Jn 2:3)

JESUS IS KING. He is it. Now if Mary is Queen, it means that she has no authority whatsoever over his decisions except a whisper in his ear (Jn 2:3). We call Mary the Queen without diminishing the King's (Jesus') authority in the least. In fact it reinforces it. What respectable King does not have a Queen? Revelation 12:1 says:

12 :1 A great portent appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. 2 She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pangs, in the agony of giving birth. Then the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, so that he might devour her child as soon as it was born. 5 And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron. But her child was snatched away and taken to God and to his throne.. View attachment 187057
Jesus only had one Mother and this passage is talking about the woman that gave birth to the Saviour. She has a Crown. The passage also clearly shows Mary as an active participant in the war against the devil. The passage presents Jesus on his rightful throne.


If you are afraid to talk to Mary, I invite you to Pray to Jesus about Mary. I'm sure any Evangelical would say it is perfectly safe to pray to Jesus about anything. Ask Jesus what's up with Mary. Give him time to respond. We pray you have the same experience that has led to my powerful convictions about the validity of Mary as a helper for the helpless, and a great prayer warrior.


I do not have any problems with this “Queen” designation! It is not about me. My thoughts are irrelevant!

What matters is GOD’S thoughts, about who Mary is. And nowhere, does the Bible say Mary is Queen of Heaven. However it distinctly says in Bible, the title “Queen of Heaven” is a derogatory title for a false goddess, which the Jews worshipped as Israel was failing, and about to be carried off into captivity. (Circa 587 BC)

“the goddess they call the Queen of Heaven. They are also pouring out drink offerings to other gods. They seem to do all this just to trouble me. 19 But I am not really the one being troubled!” says the Lord. “Rather they are bringing trouble on themselves to their own shame!” Jerk. 7:18b-19

This is what the Bible directly says. Do not answer me back with a bunch of verses that have nothing to do with the topic! Mary is not the Queen of Heaven, and it would be terrible if she were! Mary was not assumed into Heaven. Mary is not a mediatrix. She does not hear prayers, then whisper them into Jesus ear, like some kind of flacky, because the King is too busy to hear the prayers himself.

Mary is a human being! She died. Even if she was in Heaven, she has no capabilities of an immortal. She is not omniscient, omnipotent nor omnipresent. She cannot hear all those millions of rosaries being said over and over at the same time around the world, because she is just a human being.

By deifying Mary you have turned her into a false goddess, and made Christianity into polytheism, with a Queen and a King who have all power.

You are 100% wrong! And I did ask God about Mary, decades ago, and he told me she was a virgin chosen to bear the Messiah. Nothing else and do NOT pray to her!
 

notuptome

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There is no such thing as a one world religion coming. Go ahead, quote the 'one world religion' verses the 'experts' use to supposedly prove it. It's just NOT there.

Nevermind, I'll quote them for you...

Here are the verses the experts use to justify a unified one world religion.

Rev. 17 the entire chapter. I would like to know where, but chances are it comes from the "experts" lack of a sensible hermeneutic by misinterpreting the word ALL.

1 Timothy 4:1-3 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
The One World Government theory is fueled by anti-Catholics to divert from the encyclical "Our Common Home" focusing on climate change as an excuse.
It takes a little understanding of the Church's teachings on ecumenism to realize the a OWG led or influenced by the Pope is IMPOSSIBLE. And a One World Religion is even more ridiculous.

Laudato si': (Praise be to you - On Care For Our Common Home) - Encyclical, Pope Francis - (May 24, 2015)[ Arabic- English- French- German- Italian- Polish-Portuguese- Spanish ]

Look at that! The Pope teaches in tongues!
When you step on the toes of those golden calves they sure do bawl loudly. Romanism like Islam desires to dominate the world. Both are earthly organizations lusting for power and control. Neither have anything to do with the coming kingdom of God.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

Dino246

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Yea, and modernist liberal Protestants came along in the 19th century and corrected 300 years of reformist error.....right.
Still using logical fallacies to defend your position... you just don't learn, do you?

Pointing fingers at protestants DOES NOT JUSTIFY your Catholic errors.
 

notuptome

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Still using logical fallacies to defend your position... you just don't learn, do you?

Pointing fingers at protestants DOES NOT JUSTIFY your Catholic errors.
While I must agree you.

You will never convince those who espouse salvation as weights on a scale. Good must out weight bad to enter in.

For the cause of Christ
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epostle

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What you're doing is listening to people even more misled than you are. The pope isn't promoting a one world religion, he's just advocating to pray for peace and love between the world's different religions!

How the Protestant's love to distort the popes message just to promote their own false teachings and agenda. And people fall for it line, hook, and sinker!

I challenge anyone on this forum to quote ONE verse of prophecy implicating Rome in any way. You can't do it because ONE does NOT exist!
I have a prophecy from 1975 that is line with the Bible, but no explicit verse is mentioned. The prophecy is valid because it is still relevant 45 years later. Uttered before the Pope, several cardinals and bishops by 3 young laymen:

PROPHECIES GIVEN AT ST. PETER’S BASILICA DURING THE CLOSING EUCHARIST ON PENTECOST MONDAY—MAY 1975

Because I love you, I want to show you what I am doing in the world today. I want to prepare you for what is to come. Days of darkness are coming on the world, days of tribulation….Buildings that are now standing will not be standing. Supports that are there for my people now will not be there. I want you to be prepared, my people, to know only me and to cleave to me and to have me in a way deeper than ever before. I will lead you into the desert…I will strip you of everything that you are depending on now, so you depend just on me. A time of darkness is coming on the world, but a time of glory is coming for my church, a time of glory is coming for my people. I will pour out on you all the gifts of my spirit. I will prepare you for spiritual combat; I will prepare you for a time of evangelism that the world has never seen…. And when you have nothing but me, you will have everything: land, fields, homes, and brothers and sisters and love and joy and peace more than ever before. Be ready, my people, I want to prepare you…”
(given by Ralph Martin)


I speak to you of the dawn of a ‘new age’ for my church. I speak to you of a day that has not been seen before….Prepare yourselves for the action that I begin now, because things that you see around you will change; the combat that you must enter now is different; it is new. You need wisdom from me that you do not yet have. “I You need the power of my Holy Spirit in a way that you nave not possessed it; you need an understanding of my will and of the ways that I work that you do not yet have. Open your eyes, open your hearts to prepare yourselves for me and for the day that I have now begun. My church will be different; my people will be different; difficulties and trials will come upon you. The comfort that you know now will be far from you, but the comfort that you will have is the comfort of my Holy Spirit. They will send for you, to take your life, but I will support you. Come to me. Band yourselves together, around me. Prepare, for I proclaim a new day, a day of victory and of triumph for your God. Behold, it is begun.”
(given by Bruce Yocum)


I will renew my church. I will renew my people. I will make my people one. I am calling you to turn away from the pleasures of the world. I am calling you to turn away from the desires of the world. I am calling you to turn away from seeking the approval of the world in your lives. I want to transform your lives….I have a word for my church. I am sounding my call. I am forming a mighty army….My power is upon them. They will follow my chosen shepherd(s)…. “…Be the shepherds I have called you to be….I am renewing my people. I will renew my church. I will free the world.”

https://www.renewalministries.net/files/freeliterature/Prophecies_Pentecost_Monday.pdf

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Pope greets prophet
with a holy kiss.​
 

epostle

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If Jesus was on trial today, there wouldn't be mobs yelling, "CRUCIFY HIM!!! CRUCIFY HIM!!!"

Instead, angry people would make floodwaters of videos and news articles (Revelation 12:15) accusing Jesus of One World conspiracies that contradict everything He said in public.
IMO, it's the same poop in a different toilet.

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Nicaragua police commit genocide
against Catholics, just last week.
This is the Pope's "one world government"???
 

notuptome

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If Jesus was on trial today, there wouldn't be mobs yelling, "CRUCIFY HIM!!! CRUCIFY HIM!!!"

Instead, angry people would make floodwaters of videos and news articles (Revelation 12:15) accusing Jesus of One World conspiracies that contradict everything He said in public.
IMO, it's the same poop in a different toilet.

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Nicaragua police commit genocide
against Catholics, just last week.
This is the Pope's "one world government"???
More of the same old dodge. Beating dead horses, slaying strawmen and creating red herrings. God knows the hearts.

I do not know the specific situation in Nicaragua but it would not surprise me to find out that the police were responding to the Roman Catholic church's oppression of the people and robbing the poor.

For the cause of Christ
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epostle

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More of the same old dodge. Beating dead horses, slaying strawmen and creating red herrings. God knows the hearts.

I do not know the specific situation in Nicaragua but it would not surprise me to find out that the police were responding to the Roman Catholic church's oppression of the people and robbing the poor.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
If there was any truth to your vile sadistic nonsense, you would find some evidence in a news source. I am sure you can find some cheap left wing news rag to support your sick fabrications. It would not surprise me to discover you were in some paranoid fundamentalist group, or worse, the Seventh Day Adventists. If you are not, you sure have the same bigoted mentality.
I will not have "Bible-Christian" psychos try to step on my neck to make themselves taller. The problem is usually maladjustment from a dysfunctional family, the second problem is bashing a cartoon they think is the Church.
I'll take you off ignore when you start treating Catholics like we were human beings.
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If there was any truth to your vile sadistic nonsense, you would find some evidence in a news source. I am sure you can find some cheap left wing news rag to support your sick fabrications. It would not surprise me to discover you were in some paranoid fundamentalist group, or worse, the Seventh Day Adventists. If you are not, you sure have the same bigoted mentality.
I will not have "Bible-Christian" psychos try to step on my neck to make themselves taller. The problem is usually maladjustment from a dysfunctional family, the second problem is bashing a cartoon they think is the Church.
I'll take you off ignore when you start treating Catholics like we were human beings.
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It is evident that you are completely indoctrinated into the Roman Catholic cult. I married into a catholic family so I have seen first hand how the "church" operates. Roman Catholicism is a man made organization only interested with self perpetuation. Her history is replete with oppression of the laity and exaltation of the priesthood. The Roman Catholic church has more hooks, twists and kinks in it than a barrel full of fish hooks.

If you cannot take the heat get out of the kitchen but by all means cease from your defense of the indefensible. The Holy Spirit is not in the Roman Catholic church. Ichabod has long been written over the door of the Roman Catholic church. A door which now leads to eternal death from which there is no escape.

You cannot ignore God and He will search you out.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

dcontroversal

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The bible prophecy that there Will one world government

Rev 13:7And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

This verse say : the power given to him over all ............nation

If all nation under one man or president, we call It one world government. It is tha beast or the antichrist government that promote by Pope

https://www.infowars.com/12-times-p...ed-a-one-world-religion-or-a-new-world-order/

Why pope promote this beast or satanic government?

I believe because he is the antichrist, he work for Lucifer

Went out from us but not of us

Islam not went out from christian

Mormon and jehova witness went out or pretend to be Christian, but they are small. To rule the world must from big organisation. Catholic is more fit to revelation 13:7
No need to engage Dud.......he has already proven that the word of God alludes him like politicians do jail.....
 

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Regarding the myth that Mary had no other children, I was just reading this passage, last night!

“A crowd was sitting around him and they said to him, “Look, your mother and your brothers are outside looking for you.” 33 He answered them and said, “Who are my mother and my brothers?” 34 And looking at those who were sitting around him in a circle, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! 35 For whoever does the will of God is my brother and sister and mother.” Mark 3:32-35

First, Jesus real mother and brothers were standing outside, physically! Brothers = AdelphoI = ἀδελφοί. This means brothers, not cousin. Besides, no Jewish man would live celebate, in order to do something unnecessary, keep Mary a sort-of virgin! Because, having a baby, even one created by the Holy Spirit, realistically means a lot of major physical changes to the body, which are not present in a virgin. I believe Mary was a virgin, and the Holy Spirit helped her conceive, but she did not stay virgin,

Besides, Mary really isn’t that important the passage says above, Jesus is clear that birth connection means nothing compared to those that do the will of God.
Amen, James and Jude......half brothers of JESUS that write James and Jude.........
 

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Catholic adoption agencies in 5 areas in the U.S. are being forced by court order to provide adoption services to same sex parents. They close down because they will not violate God's laws. The First Amendment takes a back seat when it comes to Catholics. That should alarm any sensible American.

But you will never see these doom and gloom conspiracy nuts put that in their videos.

U.N. POPULATION CHIEF LECTURES VATICAN
Mar 20, 2017

Thoraya Obaid, the head of the U.N. Population Fund, admonished the Vatican today to change its teachings on condoms. Speaking of the need for the Catholic Church to endorse condom use, she said, “We are hoping the new pope will take this message further, because it makes no sense sending people to their death.” She urged the Church to adopt a “morally correct decision” on how to stop HIV.

Catholic League president William Donohue spoke to this issue today:

“Is there anyone on the planet who doesn’t know about the alleged wonders of condoms? Yet, it is indisputably true that as condom use has increased, so have sexually transmitted diseases (STD’s). This is not to say that condom use causes STD’s, but it is to say that condom use has not prevented the explosion in STD’s. And this is because the same culture that prizes sexual license—in all its expressions—is morally incapable of sending a message of restraint.

“If Thoraya Obaid is truly concerned about HIV in Africa, she should get the U.N. to endorse the teachings of the Catholic Church on matters sexual. That is because the only real success story on that continent is Uganda, a nation that has tailored its anti-HIV strategy to the wisdom of Catholic sexual ethics. According to Edward C. Green, a professor at the Harvard School of Public Health, ‘basic behavioral changes in Uganda of 1987-95 have kept HIV prevalence declining up until now.’ The reason why the progress that has been made is now in jeopardy has more to do with dropping the emphasis on abstinence, he says, in exchange for a more condom-centered approach.

“Obaid is not only wrong on the issue, she is wrong on the cause of deaths due to AIDS. It is near impossible for anyone to die of AIDS (save for a blood transfusion) who follows the teachings of the Catholic Church on sexuality. It is not the Catholic Church that is causing Africans to die—or is responsible for a new strain of HIV among homosexuals in New York City—it is behavioral recklessness.”

https://www.catholicleague.org/u-n-population-chief-lectures-vatican/

Papal conspiracy theorists are ignorant of Catholic teaching, a one world anything is IMPOSSIBLE.
 

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UN WANTS TO CONTROL CATHOLIC CHURCH

The United Nations Committee on the Rights of the Child has just released a report on the way the Vatican has responded to the sexual abuse of minors by priests. The 15-page report contains not a single footnote, endnote, or any other mode of attribution. But it does provide plenty of evidence as to its real agenda.

The U.N. panel is using the sexual abuse of minors as a pretext for its true objective: it wants the Vatican to submit to its authority, and not just in instances involving international law—it wants the Catholic Church to change Canon Law and to adopt a secular sexual ethics. As such, it is one of the most ambitious power-grab efforts ever undertaken by a U.N. committee. The panel is also profoundly ignorant of the data.

On p. 3 of the report, the panel says the Holy See should “undertake the necessary steps to withdraw all its reservations and to ensure the [U.N.] Convention’s precedence over internallaws and regulations.” (Its emphasis.) It is quite explicit: “The Committee recommends that the Holy See undertake a comprehensive review of its normative framework, in particular Canon Law, with a view to ensuring its full compliance with the Convention.”

In other words, the teaching body of the Catholic Church, the Magisterium, i.e., the pope in communion with the bishops, should yield to the U.N. This would be the equivalent of asking the United States Congress to make sure its laws are in compliance with U.N. strictures. Hubris is too mild a word to describe this unmitigated arrogance.

On pp. 12-13, the panel says it wants the Catholic Church to change its teachings on abortion and contraception; it also says the Church needs to do more about HIV/AIDS.

It is painfully obvious that these panelists have not thought through this issue. To wit: if everyone followed the Church’s teachings on sexuality, we would not have this problem in the first place. To be exact, those who acquire HIV/AIDS typically do so because they live a reckless life, in sharp contradistinction to the Church’s plea for restraint.

The panel is so intent on policing the Church that it demands a Canon Law change in the use of the term “illegitimate children.” It also directs the Vatican to order Catholic schools to change its textbooks, getting rid of alleged “gender stereotypes.” Not only is this another example of its abuse of power, the panel provides not a single piece of evidence to buttress its claim. Someone should also tell these experts that the Vatican does not tell Catholic schools what textbooks, or curricula, it should adopt. But to control freaks, delegation is a difficult concept to grasp.

The panel lectures the Vatican on the need for “awareness programs,” urging “systematic training” for those who work with minors. Just who do they think started these initiatives? We’re not the ones who lack mandatory training programs—the guilty parties are found in other religious communities, and in the public schools. This explains why sexual abuse is not a problem in Catholic communities today the way it is elsewhere. The panel needs to get up to speed, assuming it has any real interest in this issue.

On p. 8, the panel instructs the Vatican to end corporal punishment, saying it must amend “both Canon Law and Vatican City State laws.” Ironically, the U.N. has now detailed how 10,000 Syrian children have been killed and tortured in the last three years.

Syrian kids are being raped and beaten “with metal cabals, whips and wooden and metal batons”; they are also being subjected to “electric shocks, including to the genitals.” Their fingernails and toenails are being ripped out of them, and they are being lacerated with cigarette burns. Most of these barbaric acts are being conducted by government agents, yet there is no demand that Syrian officials yield to the U.N. It is too busy wondering if Sister Mary Alice is taking a ruler to a miscreant student.

The one attempt at providing evidence is a colossal failure: on p. 7 it cites the Magdalene Laundries as an institution that forced girls “to work in slavery like conditions and were often subject to inhuman, cruel and degrading treatment as well as to physical and sexual abuse.” This is a bald-face lie: the McAleese Report, an investigation authorized by the Irish government, shows that none of this is true. To read my analysis, “Myths of the Magdalene Laundries,” see the “Special Reports” section on the Catholic League website. The panel’s report is libelous.

Finally, the report says the Church needs to end the practice of “baby boxes.” In many countries, there are drop boxes next to orphanages; they are placed there to entice girls who are pregnant out-of-wedlock, and who cannot care for their babies, to allow others to raise their child. It is a humane practice, one that is widely practiced in South Korea. What is not humane is to kill babies in utero, which is precisely what this U.N. panel recommends.

For sheer demagoguery, this report cannot be beaten. It is as malicious as it is inaccurate.
https://www.catholicleague.org/demagogic-u-n-report-vatican-2/

Here is a gift for these paranoid ignorant Pope bashing liars that would never print or video information from this article, it would disturb their anti-Catholic agenda:

A brain cell... ( . )
No, two brain cells...( .. )

BTW, the Pope does not have the authority to change Catholic teaching, which makes "one world government" or "one world religion" as impossible as they are ridiculous.
 

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If there was any truth to your vile sadistic nonsense, you would find some evidence in a news source. I am sure you can find some cheap left wing news rag to support your sick fabrications. It would not surprise me to discover you were in some paranoid fundamentalist group, or worse, the Seventh Day Adventists. If you are not, you sure have the same bigoted mentality.
I will not have "Bible-Christian" psychos try to step on my neck to make themselves taller. The problem is usually maladjustment from a dysfunctional family, the second problem is bashing a cartoon they think is the Church.
I'll take you off ignore when you start treating Catholics like we were human beings.
This is one of the more disgusting comments I've seen.