Bible versions-Is there only one?

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Is there only one true version of the Bible?

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Sackcloth-N-Ashes

Sackcloth-N-Ashes

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fredoheaven said:
Umm. another shallow argument over typeface or spelling. Doesn't make sense...
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It makes absolute sense. You guys talk about all the revisions made by newer versions, but when we show you that the King James VERSION of the holy bible has went through MANY revisions, you guys readily swept that under the rug.

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1638(I think that was the year)

Also, the 1769, do you have an Oxford or Cambridge. You guys are just a bunch of hypocrite. The very things you boast MV’s for doing, the KJV has went through as well.

#DoubleStandard
#SpeakingOutOfBothSidesOfYourMouthes
 
KJV1611

KJV1611

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John146 said:
People do not want to submit to a final authority. Man has always wanted to be his own authority.
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(Joh 14:22) Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
(Joh 14:23) Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Judas asked the Lord how he will hide himself from world and yet still manifest himself to his people. Jesus' answer was I will manifest myself to those who my words.

In what way are we "keeping his word" by picking and choosing meanings from multiple bibles, concordances and dictionaries?

The whole bible is written in parables, foreshadows and symbols, and unless we have every word of God exactly as he gave it, and believe EVERY WORD as written, we have no chance whatsoever of arriving at the truth.
 
KJV1611

KJV1611

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Sackcloth-N-Ashes said:
It makes absolute sense. You guys talk about all the revisions made by newer versions, but when we show you that the King James VERSION of the holy bible has went through MANY revisions, you guys readily swept that under the rug.

1611
1612
1613
1629
1638(I think that was the year)

Also, the 1769, do you have an Oxford or Cambridge. You guys are just a bunch of hypocrite. The very things you boast MV’s for doing, the KJV has went through as well.

#DoubleStandard
#SpeakingOutOfBothSidesOfYourMouthes
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Maybe you could show us some of the errors that were corrected through those revisions.
 
Sackcloth-N-Ashes

Sackcloth-N-Ashes

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John146 said:
People do not want to submit to a final authority. Man has always wanted to be his own authority.
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You’re basing your misinformed claim on the KJV being the final authority. You have no biblical proof to make this assertion. None whatsoever.
 
Sackcloth-N-Ashes

Sackcloth-N-Ashes

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KJV1611 said:
Maybe you could show us some of the errors that were corrected through those revisions.
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They‘ve already been exposed on here. Others have posited them. You don’t believe them, you won’t believe me, either.

Lucifer, for one, in Isaiah 14. That wasn’t even in the Hebrew, was used by Jerome in his Vulgate. Lucifer is a Latin word that the KJV translators used to translate “light source”, “light bringer”.

Does the church you attend solely use the KJV?
 
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John146

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Sackcloth-N-Ashes said:
It makes absolute sense. You guys talk about all the revisions made by newer versions, but when we show you that the King James VERSION of the holy bible has went through MANY revisions, you guys readily swept that under the rug.

1611
1612
1613
1629
1638(I think that was the year)

Also, the 1769, do you have an Oxford or Cambridge. You guys are just a bunch of hypocrite. The very things you boast MV’s for doing, the KJV has went through as well.

#DoubleStandard
#SpeakingOutOfBothSidesOfYourMouthes
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Instead of insults, could you post where the revisions have changed the words. Then we could discuss. Thanks.
 
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Sackcloth-N-Ashes said:
You’re basing your misinformed claim on the KJV being the final authority. You have no biblical proof to make this assertion. None whatsoever.
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Is God's word to be the believer's final authority on all matters of faith and practice? Do you have this? As long as people correct what they have, they can never claim that their bible is final authority.
 
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John146

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Sackcloth-N-Ashes said:
They‘ve already been exposed on here. Others have posited them. You don’t believe them, you won’t believe me, either.

Lucifer, for one, in Isaiah 14. That wasn’t even in the Hebrew, was used by Jerome in his Vulgate. Lucifer is a Latin word that the KJV translators used to translate “light source”, “light bringer”.

Does the church you attend solely use the KJV?
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So how was this changed through the KJV revisions? Thanks.
 
Sackcloth-N-Ashes

Sackcloth-N-Ashes

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John146 said:
Is God's word to be the believer's final authority on all matters of faith and practice? Do you have this? As long as people correct what they have, they can never claim that their bible is final authority.
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Yes it is. It is found in the KJV, ESV, NASB, NIV, YLT, HCSB, CSB, NLT, &c.
 
Sackcloth-N-Ashes

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John146 said:
We submit to a book. You submit to your ability to determine what God has said.
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Bingo! You guys submit to a book. We submit to the Lordship of the Christ.

”Thou hast rightly said....”

“From the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh.”
 
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Sackcloth-N-Ashes said:
They’ve been discussed and you guys brush them aside.
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Since 1611, there have been standardized spelling changes in the King James Bible. In the early editions of the KJB, words like "bear," "dark" and "fear" had the letter "e" on end of them. Words like "mooued," "bee" and "mee" were changed into "moved," "be" and "me." These changes made no change in the context or in any doctrine.

There were also changes because of typographical errors. These errors were hardly avoidable because the printing press in the 1600's were set manually, not like the technological printers of the present day. The work of printing books in the 1400's to 1600's was done by a very slow process. Each individual letter of a certain word was to be placed in the printing press by hand, each letter being upside down and backwards, so printing errors were expected. It was an extreme and weary task to complete the hundreds of thousands of letters in the KJB in a specified time limit. If we today, having things such as Microsoft Word and Spell Check (which are still prone to make errors in writing articles and books), then imagine how hard it was back then.

The King James Bible was first printed in Gothic type, but later changed to Roman type. In the Gothic type text, the letter "s" looked like the letter "f", the letter "u" looked like the letter "v" and the letter "j" looked like the letter "i". Again this did not change the context any at all.
 
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Sackcloth-N-Ashes said:
Bingo! You guys submit to a book. We submit to the Lordship of the Christ.

”Thou hast rightly said....”

“From the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh.”
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Yes, I submit to word of God. You don't submit to His word? You submit to your intellect and ability to determine what God has said through the different versions.

The Lord and His word cannot be separated.
 
KJV1611

KJV1611

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Sackcloth-N-Ashes said:
They‘ve already been exposed on here. Others have posited them. You don’t believe them, you won’t believe me, either.

Lucifer, for one, in Isaiah 14. That wasn’t even in the Hebrew, was used by Jerome in his Vulgate. Lucifer is a Latin word that the KJV translators used to translate “light source”, “light bringer”.

Does the church you attend solely use the KJV?
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Lucifer is in the 1611 version, it wasn't updated in a revision.


Isaiah 14:12

“How art thou fallen from heauen, O Lucifer, sonne of the morning? how art thou cut downe to the ground, which didst weaken the nations?”

1611 King James Version (KJV)
 
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