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Your point has to do with defining the words prophet, prophecy, and prophesy needed to help prevent from following false religion that comes by not rightly dividing prophecy.
Yes, Balaam's donkey used in that parable to hide the spiritual unseen understanding from those who chase after signs and wonders gospel as shadow worshippers. Balaam's donkey like all prophets are used as a microphone so other can hear the gospel. The gospel was not directed at the Ass.
Using a Ass simply shows he is not served by mouth of the beasts of the field .Neither mankind or the beast of burden .They both have there place in his program of men hearing the gospel.
Tongues is simply a new manner that was used for a short while to bring new prophecy. It ceased, we have the whole perfect law with no part missing/.
You are still trying to make prophecy something it is not for some reason? Its God's Word. He is neither a man like us or a Ass like that of Balaam's .Neither is he a straw used to bring His word to show his answer . or splitting a rock Many manners of prophecy the signified language of God .
What does the law in 1Corithians 14 confirm as a sign? Belief (faith) or unbelief( no faith) ?
Yes, Balaam's donkey used in that parable to hide the spiritual unseen understanding from those who chase after signs and wonders gospel as shadow worshippers. Balaam's donkey like all prophets are used as a microphone so other can hear the gospel. The gospel was not directed at the Ass.
Using a Ass simply shows he is not served by mouth of the beasts of the field .Neither mankind or the beast of burden .They both have there place in his program of men hearing the gospel.
Tongues is simply a new manner that was used for a short while to bring new prophecy. It ceased, we have the whole perfect law with no part missing/.
You are still trying to make prophecy something it is not for some reason? Its God's Word. He is neither a man like us or a Ass like that of Balaam's .Neither is he a straw used to bring His word to show his answer . or splitting a rock Many manners of prophecy the signified language of God .
What does the law in 1Corithians 14 confirm as a sign? Belief (faith) or unbelief( no faith) ?
The scripture confirms the sign connected with Tongues, a new manner of prophecy confirming unbelief as those who fall backward.
I call it the; "yet for all that" they still love their wonderment.
The scriptures say it is done so it is done.
Can't be done if its a unknown? Unless you are promoting unknown wonderment, as mysticism.
Just get excited and believe something. Fall backward when full of it.
No, that is not my point. Go back and read my posts again.
Again, Balaam's donkey is completely irrelevant to my point.
That is not a biblically sound position.
I'm going with what the Bible says about prophecy. You're making up your own definitions... again.
I don't know why you can't understand the words, "This has been addressed." Just drop it.
Again, Balaam's donkey is completely irrelevant to my point.
That is not a biblically sound position.
I'm going with what the Bible says about prophecy. You're making up your own definitions... again.
I don't know why you can't understand the words, "This has been addressed." Just drop it.
Biblically sound .According to whose position? Yours mine ? Where are the verses from where you have gathered that Idea?
Is tongues and unknown and that why you have not as of yet found one. There are many that support tongues are prophecy.
I don't know why you can't just give us your answer .What does the sign as a law (not theory) of tongue confirm "This has been addressed."
What does the doctrine of tongues itself represent? A wonderment, mysticism, a pick me upward or fall me backward?
Is tongues and unknown and that why you have not as of yet found one. There are many that support tongues are prophecy.
I don't know why you can't just give us your answer .What does the sign as a law (not theory) of tongue confirm "This has been addressed."
What does the doctrine of tongues itself represent? A wonderment, mysticism, a pick me upward or fall me backward?
"Biblically sound" is not a subjective adjective. Something is either biblically sound or it isn't. Here are your words to which I commented that:
"Tongues is simply a new manner that was used for a short while to bring new prophecy. It ceased, we have the whole perfect law with no part missing/."
You keep harping on the 'foundation' of tongues in Isaiah, yet you claim that it is a "new manner". Obviously, something that was discussed seven hundred years before Jesus is not "new". Scripture does not equate tongues with prophecy. I've demonstrated this clearly, but you simply refuse to accept it. We can disagree on the timing, but the Scripture says that both tongues and prophecy "will cease", not "have ceased".
That isn't a sentence, and it isn't clear to me what you are trying to say.
There are many who believe that Jesus is not divine. What does the opinion of the many have to do with anything? For that matter, where are these "many"? Can you quote any of them? Or, like "they" who allegedly believe that modern-day prophetic messages are intended by God to be additions to Scripture, are you unable to find a single one?
"Tongues is simply a new manner that was used for a short while to bring new prophecy. It ceased, we have the whole perfect law with no part missing/."
You keep harping on the 'foundation' of tongues in Isaiah, yet you claim that it is a "new manner". Obviously, something that was discussed seven hundred years before Jesus is not "new". Scripture does not equate tongues with prophecy. I've demonstrated this clearly, but you simply refuse to accept it. We can disagree on the timing, but the Scripture says that both tongues and prophecy "will cease", not "have ceased".
That isn't a sentence, and it isn't clear to me what you are trying to say.
There are many who believe that Jesus is not divine. What does the opinion of the many have to do with anything? For that matter, where are these "many"? Can you quote any of them? Or, like "they" who allegedly believe that modern-day prophetic messages are intended by God to be additions to Scripture, are you unable to find a single one?
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You have not demonstrated that .There is no demonstration that would divide the word of God from the word of His prophecy... the word of God . . . . from tongues, the word of God .
Isaiah 28 speaks of that new manner of prophecy "another tongue".(all the nations of the world. Promised in Joel , prophecy after men and woman of all the nations of the world. Performed in Acts 2. defined in 1Corinthian 14. why destroy the foundation . To seek after a wonderment mysticism ?
They who refuse to hear the new tongue (the gospel) as a new manner of prophecy simply will not look and compare or what the Holy Spirit informs us . For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little
sola scriptura) they fall backward to prove they will not look to the foundation of the doctrine . Some call them the cherry pickers used to build up, lift me higher....wonderments experiences .
Note.... Prophecy... .. Tongue .... precept...line = God's Word. all one in the same
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:For with stammering lips and "another tongue" will he speak to this people. To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. But the word of the Lord was unto them precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken. Wherefore hear the word of the Lord, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem. Isaiah 28:14
Are you receiving new revelations that can be added to the perfect.... confirming God is still not finished with His book of the law the Bible. . Or is it seal up till the end and we have the perfect law of faith?
Not one person who claims to be experiencing the unknown... has given the many that have asked for these glorious up lifting private revelations so that we can add it to the existing word of God. Is there are warning from God that he forgot to list? Like don't tell anyone?
Isaiah 28 speaks of that new manner of prophecy "another tongue".(all the nations of the world. Promised in Joel , prophecy after men and woman of all the nations of the world. Performed in Acts 2. defined in 1Corinthian 14. why destroy the foundation . To seek after a wonderment mysticism ?
They who refuse to hear the new tongue (the gospel) as a new manner of prophecy simply will not look and compare or what the Holy Spirit informs us . For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little
sola scriptura) they fall backward to prove they will not look to the foundation of the doctrine . Some call them the cherry pickers used to build up, lift me higher....wonderments experiences .Note.... Prophecy... .. Tongue .... precept...line = God's Word. all one in the same
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:For with stammering lips and "another tongue" will he speak to this people. To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. But the word of the Lord was unto them precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken. Wherefore hear the word of the Lord, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem. Isaiah 28:14
Are you receiving new revelations that can be added to the perfect.... confirming God is still not finished with His book of the law the Bible. . Or is it seal up till the end and we have the perfect law of faith?
Not one person who claims to be experiencing the unknown... has given the many that have asked for these glorious up lifting private revelations so that we can add it to the existing word of God. Is there are warning from God that he forgot to list? Like don't tell anyone?
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The reason that "not one person who claims to be experiencing the unknown" has given "revelations so that we can add it to the existing word of God" is that no such person believes that they should be added.
But despite being asked repeatedly to quote anyone who believes that they should be, you can't produce a single quotation, yet you continue to assert it. That is a sadly excellent example of stubbornness on your part.
I grow tired of this. You haven't budged an inch from your error, and your defense of it is beyond ridiculous.
But despite being asked repeatedly to quote anyone who believes that they should be, you can't produce a single quotation, yet you continue to assert it. That is a sadly excellent example of stubbornness on your part.
I grow tired of this. You haven't budged an inch from your error, and your defense of it is beyond ridiculous.
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Hi Dino thanks for the reply
Its the silence is golden "quotation" 5th LOL
Do you speak in a unknown tongue?
Its something they are confirming? We are discussing something? Perhaps nothing other than a unknown mystical, wonderment?..?. . . .
I would ask is it a secret or private revelation?
Is it the spiritual gift needed to edify oneself to confirm something? Edify what? Confirm what? Perhaps vanity?
Does not the Spirit that dwells in the believer witness to our spirit by the words of the Spirit? His word is Spirit and spirit life . What the eye sees profits for nothing.
What does the sign "falling backward slain in the Spirit" represent? Those who do compare the spiritual understanding to the spiritual (faith to faith) or (precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept "sola scriptura". The faith according to the labors of His Christ's love alone . or work of Christ's faith in us not of us. Our imputed righteousness , spoken of in James 2 the faith of Christ.
Isaiah 28:10-13 King James Version (KJV) For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: For with stammering (Mocking) lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
What does it as a sign confirm according to the law in 1 Corinthians 14 :22-23 . Belief or unbeleif?
Its the silence is golden "quotation" 5th LOL
Do you speak in a unknown tongue?
Its something they are confirming? We are discussing something? Perhaps nothing other than a unknown mystical, wonderment?..?. . . .
I would ask is it a secret or private revelation?
Is it the spiritual gift needed to edify oneself to confirm something? Edify what? Confirm what? Perhaps vanity?
Does not the Spirit that dwells in the believer witness to our spirit by the words of the Spirit? His word is Spirit and spirit life . What the eye sees profits for nothing.
What does the sign "falling backward slain in the Spirit" represent? Those who do compare the spiritual understanding to the spiritual (faith to faith) or (precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept "sola scriptura". The faith according to the labors of His Christ's love alone . or work of Christ's faith in us not of us. Our imputed righteousness , spoken of in James 2 the faith of Christ.
Isaiah 28:10-13 King James Version (KJV) For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: For with stammering (Mocking) lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
What does it as a sign confirm according to the law in 1 Corinthians 14 :22-23 . Belief or unbeleif?
Well, that goes for ANY thread. There is a difference between debating something, and running it into the ground. ( To the OP here, Footprint, nothing against you, you're new here)
It's very OBVIOUS that there are some issues many users are very passionate about and want to share. It's just SAD when the "unbelievers" in that issue practically attack them to try and silence an issue, while they are the ones running other issues that may not be agreed upon and Lord forbid if ANYONE speaks against THEM.
I guess I'm just saying, if your going to debate an issue then debate it, but STOP attacking each other on things. If you DON'T like it, then skip it!
Since we don't have voice on the threads, we each have to read into it what we will, and personally there are MANY times when I read something to me it sounds like a snotty tone of voice.
Jesus does not want for us to treat our brothers and sisters in the Lord this way.
)It's very OBVIOUS that there are some issues many users are very passionate about and want to share. It's just SAD
when the "unbelievers" in that issue practically attack them to try and silence an issue, while they are the ones running other issues that may not be agreed upon and Lord forbid if ANYONE speaks against THEM.I guess I'm just saying, if your going to debate an issue then debate it, but STOP attacking each other on things. If you DON'T like it, then skip it!
Since we don't have voice on the threads, we each have to read into it what we will, and personally there are MANY times when I read something to me it sounds like a snotty tone of voice
.Jesus does not want for us to treat our brothers and sisters in the Lord this way.
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Oh no.
According to cessationists tongues ceased. No more tongues.
So ,since knowledged also ceased in the same sentence we can see that for you,knowldge ceased with tongues.
You guys did that. You guys painted yourselves into a corner.
Cessationism is not in the bible.
It is a brainchild of man.
A disclaimer
According to cessationists tongues ceased. No more tongues.
So ,since knowledged also ceased in the same sentence we can see that for you,knowldge ceased with tongues.
You guys did that. You guys painted yourselves into a corner.
Cessationism is not in the bible.
It is a brainchild of man.
A disclaimer
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It is clear that for a guy who claims to operate in the apostolic gifts that in your case knowledge has vanished away. You cannot define tongues and establish a consistent uniform concept of what Paul is discussing in 1 Cor 12-14. Without a clear biblical framework it is impossible to have the decency and order that Paul mandates in 1 Cor 14:40.
You will not endeavor to define the knowledge that 1 Cor 13:8 is speaking about. You maliciously label any who see the end of the three gifts that scripture states will end.
You speak without content. You speak as into the air.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
You will not endeavor to define the knowledge that 1 Cor 13:8 is speaking about. You maliciously label any who see the end of the three gifts that scripture states will end.
You speak without content. You speak as into the air.
For the cause of Christ
Roger