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That would be like saying someone is born a serial killer or a child molester. or born something else.
Sexual sin is sexual sin. I would not say someone is born gay. It is just an excuse I think.. like saying a mass murderer has killed because he had a bad childhood.. God holds us accountable for sin, he gives us no excuse. but we in our society want to excuse it and try to blame it on God (I was born this way) and not take accountability for our own actions.
Just my belief
Sexual sin is sexual sin. I would not say someone is born gay. It is just an excuse I think.. like saying a mass murderer has killed because he had a bad childhood.. God holds us accountable for sin, he gives us no excuse. but we in our society want to excuse it and try to blame it on God (I was born this way) and not take accountability for our own actions.
Just my belief
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Its a good way to absolve oneself from responsibility. If one is born with such a propensity, to be gay, to be overweight, to be adverse to exercise, to need chocolate ...then its not my fault. I can't help it. I am powerless. This is not of God. <><
...then its not my fault. I can't help it. I am powerless. This is not of God. <><
its just amazing to me that we blame everything else for the choices we make except where it belongs, within ourselves and the desires of our heart's! I'm not perfect, I make a lot of mistakes, I have flaws, my own heart is evil and deceitful, but we really must take responsibility for the choices that we make
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I've never agreed with the idea of anyone being born gay. I've always thought that people are born with a certain set of weaknesses, though, if that makes sense...I don't mean things we can't do anything about, just that each of us is built differently and is tempted differently.
Hmm...maybe I'll try to explain that better after I really wake up
Hmm...maybe I'll try to explain that better after I really wake up
C
Coffee, Coffee, Coffee
I've never agreed with the idea of anyone being born gay. I've always thought that people are born with a certain set of weaknesses, though, if that makes sense...I don't mean things we can't do anything about, just that each of us is built differently and is tempted differently.
Hmm...maybe I'll try to explain that better after I really wake up
Hmm...maybe I'll try to explain that better after I really wake up
Its a good way to absolve oneself from responsibility. If one is born with such a propensity, to be gay, to be overweight, to be adverse to exercise, to need chocolate ...then its not my fault. I can't help it. I am powerless. This is not of God. <><
...then its not my fault. I can't help it. I am powerless. This is not of God. <><
The only sin we are born into is original sin,caused by adams disobedience to Gods command.All others are by our own choice.Also before we sin there are always 2 voices the Holy Spirit telling us not 2 do it,because it is sin,then the devil saying do it,do it,its okay,its only common sense,we have all been down this road.Gods Word says today i place before you choices of blessings and life and cursings and death,choice life,God always instucts us so we can live life in its fullest and any person messing with the same sex,definately knows its wrong,they just happen 2 choose death and cursings 4 there own pleasure. Amen John
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IF people would do some research they would LEARN that 95% of homosexual men have women issues...usually mother issues. And it's not to say that any mother did what she did on purpose or even with knowledge of what it was that she was doing or the consequences. Even the 'act' of wanting a girl baby instead of a boy is enough, spiritually, to open the door to the effeminate spirit. Women who have less than great marriages often turn to the son, even at very young ages and lean on them for emotional support. This also opens the door to anger towards men...and so they don't want to be one. There is a TON of research out there. People are NOT born gay. That would be to say that God makes mistakes. Ad All babies are perfect at conception.* They may, however, have generational issues that steer them that way. We need to remember that that closed door has only been open for about 2 decades and MANY people with homosexual tendencies actually married and had kids. So the 'generational curse' of homosexuality is there in the child at birth. But a Generational curse is NOT the act. It is the propensity TOWARDS that type of sin. It is iniquity and CAN be removed.
*Babies are perfect at conception. But the devil works even within the womb to cause the child to be ineffective for the Kingdom of God; the devil will try to cause death before birth, deformity, mental illness ...a myriad of conditions...and he is able to do that through the iniquity in the family line.
Maggie
*Babies are perfect at conception. But the devil works even within the womb to cause the child to be ineffective for the Kingdom of God; the devil will try to cause death before birth, deformity, mental illness ...a myriad of conditions...and he is able to do that through the iniquity in the family line.
Maggie
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Is the sin not the homosexual act? Which is no more or less sin full than sexual acts outside of the covenant of marriage. One can have an attraction to another person, and that attraction can be mutual, but until there is a marriage the act of sex is the sin. Not the attraction in and of itself. Notice I said attraction. Not lusting after or coveting.
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So if 95% of homosexuals have mommy issues, what about children that say they were born in the wrong body, I actually blame the parents for that, because a child is innocent of sexual immorality, they cannot be accountable for what they don't know, but what of the kid's that come from good homes, living with parents that raise them in the ways of our Lord? I'm not trying to play devil's advocate, I just want a better understanding so I can rightly minister to those that claim God made a mistake, we can't just say I'm right and your wrong, that kind of ministering won't win them to Christ
I have debated gays regarding this topic, and their bottom-line argument has always been....'I didn't have a choice, I was born this way'.
This is a cop-out as we ALL have a choice....we are ALL born with physical differences to overcome.
Yes, there are genetically feminine guys and genetically masculine girls....BUT, it is still their CHOICE to act upon their genetics....and then they bring up 'gay rights'....what 'gay rights' do they want? Their response always, always, always comes down to some lame monetary reason.
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Why is not being able to choose your sexual preference a cop out? A cop out to what? Also does your conversations with a minoritive group of gays, allow you to presuppose all gays feel this way or use this frame of argument? Also if there difficulties are based on genetics, I hardly think you are saying they had a choice in their own genetic structure? Have you not just undermined your own dismissal?
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It "doesn't work like that" because the Bible says homosexuality is an abomination to God, we know that God is not a liar, so if something is an abomination He would have never created someone with those desires, His word also says "they traded the truth for a lie"
we also know that God does not make mistakes
we also know that God does not make mistakes
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i do think it is possible for sum1 to b born gay, we c persons everyday with birth defects blindness deafness, mental retardation so y do we find it impossible for sum1 to b born gay? it happens its a normal part of human imperfections. i do believe however that the choice is theirs whether r not they wanna act upon their desires or serve God and reach out to God for help and deliverance.