Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace

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FrankSophia said:
The spiritual truth of the gospel is known through the mystical dimension...

Prophecy is about worldly events.
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"mystical dimension" ? Uh huh, oh sure, right, mystical dimension - must have missed it - I hate it when that happens.
 
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rogerg said:
"mystical dimension" ? Uh huh, oh sure, right, mystical dimension - must have missed it - I hate it when that happens.
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It is the same as statements like seeing by the Spirit...

It is the union with God described in John 17:20-26...

It is the truth itself, direct.

Everything else is a poor substitute.
 
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FrankSophia said:
It is the same as statements like seeing by the Spirit...

It is the union with God described in John 17:20-26...

It is the truth itself, direct.

Everything else is a poor substitute.
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I searched the Bible for "mystical" but didn't find any hits there. Where do you find it mentioned?
 
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rogerg said:
I searched the Bible for "mystical" but didn't find any hits there. Where do you find it mentioned?
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I already gave you 1 Corinthians 4:1

This is the first verse of the section titled true apostleship.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Most here are genuinely sharing with the goal of helping others...whether dogmatically or not. The problem with building short piers is that we end up missing out ourselves.
I hear fishing from bridges can be really good.
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Fishing from bridges is excellent, especially when when fishing for men/women. Heretics don’t fish but rather drain the waters of grace.
 
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Snacks said:
Fishing from bridges is excellent, especially when when fishing for men/women. Heretics don’t fish but rather drain the waters of grace.
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You realize that even if one is an ardent Calvinist, they still are to fulfill the great commission. They still have the responsibility to take the gospel to the world.
You may believe that few are being faithful, but the 2 ideas are not antithetical. I know a fair number of reformed believers who are very evangelical.
 
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rogerg said:
They are not meaningless; they are the gospel - all of it is prophecy.
You don't understand what prophecy is - it is not only the foretelling of future events,
but also making known the spiritual truth of the gospel.
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Wait, what? You mean prophecy is not about Frank, but about Jesus??? .:eek:
 
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Magenta said:
Wait, what? You mean prophecy is not about Frank, but about Jesus??? .:eek:
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More correctly they are about Christ.

Jesus was a man in history who had the Spirit upon him.

Frank means freeman.

Jesus had the unfortunate assignment of being perfect.

I am the limit of the resulting freedom through the Spirit.
 
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He is still the eternal priest.

I am not the new example, just the correction.

A reorienting back to the new testament itself and the Spirit that it provides.
 
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rogerg said:
Yes, it is hard to imagine but it is about Jesus, not Frank.
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Wow. Frank must be very misguided then! .:censored::cry:

Let us pray for Frank that his eyes be opened to the Truth of God's
revealed written Word and the fact that Jesus Christ is the Truth.
 
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Magenta said:
Wow. Frank must be very misguided then! .:censored::cry:

Let us pray for Frank that his eyes be opened to the Truth of God's
revealed written Word and the fact that Jesus Christ is the Truth.
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You have issues with that written word.

When I bring up topics it discusses you get mad at me.

You think I'm sharing my opinions.
 
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rogerg said:
Do you actually believe that you're Jesus?
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I am not the son of Mary, visions have suggested I'm his reincarnation but I don't take that as meaningful.

I am another Christ though, intending to enact what was supposed to arise through him.
 
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There are verses that say not to enact what I'm bringing about until my appearance...

In this way what I say seems to clash.
 
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