Calvinism vs. Arminianism?
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I think the conclusion to what kind of "all" is given 5 verses down …..As many as the father gave the authority to come not one more or one less Cant receive him not seen until he gives the power to make it possible
12 But "as many as" received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name
john 1;12
12 But "as many as" received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name
john 1;12 If we are saved by the work of Christ faith .Why would we consider it plural? More than one God.
Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
We are saved by the faith of Christ that mutually works in all who beleive God ,not of our own selves after the imaginations of our own heart .Unbelievers have "no faith".
12 That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith both of you and me.
Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
We are saved by the faith of Christ that mutually works in all who beleive God ,not of our own selves after the imaginations of our own heart .Unbelievers have "no faith".
12 That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith both of you and me.
They do not need God to will themsleve to disobey Him .Men who have no faith cannot obey. What would they be obeying without the faith of God revealing what to obey ? What if some beleive not? Will it make the faith of Christ without effect. To effect something is to work . it is God who works in and with the believer to both will and do his good pleasure.(imputed righteousness)
I think the problem is men refuse to beleive God has faith or needs it in order to work out His will
For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.Romans 3:3-4
Titus 2:14
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Deut. 26:18
And the LORD hath avouched thee this day to be his peculiar people, as he hath promised thee, and that thou shouldest keep all his commandments;
Who are these peculiar people here shroomz is it all or not all, better said is it all as in all of the marbles except the green ones or all of the marbles.
So God does not predetermine when a person get's saved, but it is predetermined when a person decides on their own free will to call on the Lord so they can become saved ?
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Deut. 26:18
And the LORD hath avouched thee this day to be his peculiar people, as he hath promised thee, and that thou shouldest keep all his commandments;
Who are these peculiar people here shroomz is it all or not all, better said is it all as in all of the marbles except the green ones or all of the marbles.
So God does not predetermine when a person get's saved, but it is predetermined when a person decides on their own free will to call on the Lord so they can become saved ?
As always God must do the first works of creating. To a believer free will is to do the will of God .When mankind did the pleasure of another's will, death came.
Its the kind of spiritual substance the disciples knew not of..... not understanding the parable the meaning hid from natural man .
John 4:34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.
Christ either does all the work of salvation or he does none.
No confidence in the flesh.
Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good "work" in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
Its the kind of spiritual substance the disciples knew not of..... not understanding the parable the meaning hid from natural man .
John 4:34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.
Christ either does all the work of salvation or he does none.
No confidence in the flesh.
Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good "work" in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
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God doesn't have or need faith. Faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen Heb 11:1. Tell me what does God not see that He has to hope and have faith for it? You are being ignorant of the use of language. If you think that is how to read Rom 3:3 then you must also think God is afraid since Rom 3:18 says "there is no fear of God before their eyes". Do you think God has fear?
Well of course our faithful Creator needs faith. Why would he not have to believe something would occur when by a work of his faith or labor of His love he said: Let there be and there was?
What if some refuse to believe Him will it make the faith of God without effect? To effect something is a work .
And yes there is no fear of God not seen in their eyes.
God does trust or have fear in what he hoped for it is proved by that which we see. He declares it is good.
What if some refuse to believe Him will it make the faith of God without effect? To effect something is a work .
And yes there is no fear of God not seen in their eyes.
God does trust or have fear in what he hoped for it is proved by that which we see. He declares it is good.
I did answer.
He sees his plan. Then by a work of His faith He pronounces the word they came into sight. Let there be and there is
Faith is a work .Imagine God planning to create something and pronounces the words; let there be... and nothing happened (dead faith )
It is impossible to separate the faith of God from the works of God ..Faith works
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?James 2:17
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.James 2:17
He sees his plan. Then by a work of His faith He pronounces the word they came into sight. Let there be and there is
Faith is a work .Imagine God planning to create something and pronounces the words; let there be... and nothing happened (dead faith )
It is impossible to separate the faith of God from the works of God ..Faith works
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?James 2:17
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.James 2:17
Yes. In this context "His people" are the Jews. And while this was not fulfilled completely at His first coming, it will be fulfilled at the second coming of Christ. Please note: And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer [Christ], and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob (Rom 11:26).