Calvinists,Im Asking...

SovereignGrace · May 14, 2017

I have been nothing but civil with her, and with each of her posts, you can see the hatred slowly climbing. She has called me your sidekick, you're my hero, but you are the one insulting ppl.

#passive-aggressive

preacher4truth · May 14, 2017

SovereignGrace said:

When did I say the mods hate the Gospel? I put her on ignore a while back but she's still insulting eh? I'm still her topic of barragment? Wow.

preacher4truth · May 14, 2017

SovereignGrace said:

I've never made such a statement.

preacher4truth · May 14, 2017

SovereignGrace said:

I've made a few attempts to make amends and she will have none of it. Now she's making more false statements about me. When a believer reaches out to another professing believer to make amends but is rejected and insulted it is time to move on. And look bro, she is still doing it today.

SovereignGrace · May 14, 2017

preacher4truth said:

Well, she said you was my hero. Pffffttt!!

TBH, I do have a picture of you in front of your Chevy in my shrine in the extra bedroom...

preacher4truth · May 14, 2017

SovereignGrace said:

I was heading to church to take up the offering in that pic.

SovereignGrace · May 14, 2017

preacher4truth said:

Give until it hurts, or I'll make it hurt. For realz!!

Ariel82 · May 14, 2017

preacher4truth said:

Post 954

....yeah,

preacher4truth said:

Thanks bro. We used to disagree almost totally, two differing camps. The thing I can say about you is that you considered what was said, you weren't in full ridicule mode as some on here. There were also a couple more who came to acknowledge the truth as well. One was a little more feisty, but she sent me a surprising email telling me concerning how she came to the conclusion that the DoG's are the truth.

One thing that has kept this from being any kind of animosity first and foremost is the grace of God.

Secondly there was never any time where I was accused of not preaching the Gospel, or attacked for my stance, lied about &c by you brother. Ganged up on like here from the angry arminians and others who sow discord and cause division? Yep, from others, not you. Reported for my beliefs to angry arminian mods who hate the Gospel? Yep, relentlessly. Attacked by an actual professor of a Baptist University who taught that salvation is a personal achievement? Yep, been there, done that.

The same things happen here too, make a thread, stand on the truth and those who compromise the Gospel will barrage the one standing to please other men and rush in calling names for doing so. These are the compromising games people play in order to support their ecumenism while they pretend to defend the faith and hold to sound doctrine. They are men-pleasers, it is more important to them to please their friends, so they will not take a stand unless they lose forum popularity. That is more important to them than what is at stake: and that is the purity of the Gospel. They are compromising the Gospel as well in that in so doing they are sending an unclear message as to what is truth by having a flimsy stance and not earnestly contending.

I appreciate you brother, and you are relentless to protect the truth. And you know I love you in Christ.

Ariel82 · May 14, 2017

SovereignGrace said:

I figured it out...(trying to figure out Why you both are pretending to be dumb or forgetful about your words)

This is all just a recruitment campaign for you site, isn't it?

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/152414-seducing-spirits-doctrines-demons-3.html

SovereignGrace said:

Obviously the mods here are more gracious.

Mods should be given respect because they give of their time, love, and prayers to keep this site free of trolls and other such rift raft.

Therefore they have "earned" it.

Rules - Christian Chat Rooms & Forums

SovereignGrace · May 14, 2017

Ariel82 said:

Mad about all the insults and then doing it yourself.

#passive-aggressive

Ariel82 · May 14, 2017

Sorry kayla, depleted and others.

Yeah I am stubborn, should have just ignored the baiting.

Lets talk about these scriptures instead to Kayla question:

MattforJesus said:

There is a parable concerning this,although it is not a deathbed scenario,it still applies.

Mat 20:1 For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard.
Mat 20:2 And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard.
Mat 20:3 And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace,
Mat 20:4 And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way.
Mat 20:5 Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise.
Mat 20:6 And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle?
Mat 20:7 They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive.
Mat 20:8 So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first.
Mat 20:9 And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny.
Mat 20:10 But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny.
Mat 20:11 And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house,
Mat 20:12 Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day.
Mat 20:13 But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny?
Mat 20:14 Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.

It does not matter if we have lived for Christ for 50 years,30 years,10 years,1 year,or on our deathbed,if we confess Christ we are saved,and all get the same reward,a measly penny,only kidding,eternal life.

So it does not matter if someone confesses Christ with not that much time left on earth,or they have lived for Christ for 50 years,they all get the same reward.It does not matter how long a person lives for Christ,they all get the same reward.

ForthAngel · May 14, 2017

Ariel82 said:

Ariel, you are the one that is keeping fuel on this fire. I know you don't believe that, but it's true. You and preach got into it on a thread. Actually I'll say both of ya'll are keeping it going pretty well, but I can be sure that others white knighting for you are ganging up on preach and won't let it go.

You are letting it spill over onto anyone who disagrees with you. At least I can say preach is being consistent in who he is having an issue with. You on the other hand are not. You are taking statements made by me, sovereign grace, and other very personally. If you can't deal with the heat of a discussion, then don't be a part of it. Plain and simple.

preacher4truth · May 14, 2017

ForthAngel said:

Bro I'm not involved in that mess any longer. I really don't want to be mentioned as partaking since there is no communication from me to her. If she wants to continue, oh well, but please leave me out of it as I'm not keeping it going as you say. No hard feelings bro.

ForthAngel · May 14, 2017

Ariel82 said:

About the mods here:

One of them used his position as a means to bully in another thread. He even say something along the lines of "you wouldn't be here anymore if blah blah blah" and ended up deleting the comment. How's that for gracious.

kaylagrl · May 14, 2017

ForthAngel said:

Could be. These are the kind of questions that seem to be an attempt at putting us up against a wall since we dunno the mind of God. People seem to assume we do. If the person on the deathbed hears the Gospel and truly believes it and responds to it, then I would say yes they are saved. A biblical example would be the thief on the cross. He showed genuine faith even though he was at death's door. Jesus saved him.

Good,Im glad we agree on that.

Depleted · May 14, 2017

Grandpa said:

Yes, but I took the time to figure out what previelent grace was (even if I can't remember how to spell it. lol) I don't agree with it, but at least I took the time to figure out what she believes about that.

52 pages later, and she's back at "Why would you evangelize if only the elect are saved?"

Depleted · May 14, 2017

Ariel82 said:

So three people on this thread have gotten under your last nerve, plucked it into two pieces, and you're blaming "Calvinism" for that? (And, BTW, that isn't three. That's two, but you also won't note the difference.) That's not Calvinism. That's your choice to keep playing bait. And what do you do? Blame all Calvinists for something that isn't even Calvinism!

And you're no longer prey. Your predator.

Same thing. You're telling us you refuse to get anything any of us say.

Depleted · May 14, 2017

Ariel82 said:

Give it a break. You've been angry for the last 15 pages at least. You simply hide it as trying to make reconciliation, when you won't do that because you stopped listening.

Long fuse to my bomb. Short for yours.

When the bomb goes off, we are equals.

Depleted · May 14, 2017

Ariel82 said:

Actually, I kind of keep my opinions of the mods close to the vest because I don't want to be banned. Not all that the mods do, but that hyper-grace post above annoys me to no end.

And why does one person have to correct someone else's behavior? You have kids. Does that even work? If it does, sell that book!!!

Depleted · May 14, 2017

SovereignGrace said:

Ah, crap! I like being a sidekick. lol

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