Can a Christian live the rest of their life without sinning?

[Stunnedbygrace]

It may not be a sin to you but what about your neighbor?

All should follow what their conscience tells them until such time as they receive more understanding from the Spirit on it. Because if they think by their conscience that it is sin and they do it anyway, to them, that is sin.

I'd be more apt to seek to discuss how we have been told that it is what comes from INSIDE a man that defiles him and how even if he never acts outwardly on what his heart does inwardly, it is still sin. But that if the inside of the cup is clean, then the outside just is as well.

Even though our conscience can lead us wrong, making us think something is sin when it isn't or something is not sin when it is, we are to follow it until we receive more wisdom from the Spirit. A faulty conscience is better than nothing...

 

[Kosie]

All should follow what their conscience tells them until such time as they receive more understanding from the Spirit on it. Because if they think by their conscience that it is sin and they do it anyway, to them, that is sin.

I'd be more apt to seek to discuss how we have been told that it is what comes from INSIDE a man that defiles him and how even if he never acts outwardly on what his heart does inwardly, it is still sin. But that if the inside of the cup is clean, then the outside just is as well.

Even though our conscience can lead us wrong, making us think something is sin when it isn't or something is not sin when it is, we are to follow it until we receive more wisdom from the Spirit. A faulty conscience is better than nothing...

Look what the Bible teach what the Spirit actually do to get a man without sin and holy as He Himself..
Joh_16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
Reprove of sin is only ONE step the Holy Spirit offers. Then their is the reprove of Righteousness and then only judgement.
Most people get stuck at step one and never repent, they do not have to because they do not have the truth.
I believe God and His Word and I proof everything a person speak about God and the Word to the Word, and the fullness of the Word.
Just to become a deacon the man needs to have a pure conscience. Not pure by man's standard but by God's. God should witness about the man's pure conscience. Not only that the man should keep the mystery of the faith in the pure conscience.
1 Tim 3 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.
How pure is this man? 1 Joh 3:And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
As pure as God is pure.
And look what Jesus said, how perfect is the perfect of a saved person? Mat 5:48 As perfect as GOD IS PERFECT. How many people do you know that is this perfect?
How many people do you know that believe this perfe
ction is possible here on earth? NONE? Then how will they EVER be this perfect if they do not believe it? But hey go read the Bible, the Bible teach this perfection and God will NEVER go back on His Word. So where did the confusion about perfect character on earth seep in? From the teachings of Satan children. False Christs and the spirit of the anti-christ. There are way more false teachers than Truth Teachers, also taught by the Bible. There are way more people on the wide way than the narrow way.

God gave this command and HE will NEVER change this: Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

If God demands, God will provide to fulfill His command.
But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.



Imagine to be PERFECT AND ENTIRE, WANTING (lacking) NOTHING. This is the Godly state of Godly grace and blessings!

 

[FreeNChrist]

All should follow what their conscience tells them until such time as they receive more understanding from the Spirit on it. Because if they think by their conscience that it is sin and they do it anyway, to them, that is sin.

I'd be more apt to seek to discuss how we have been told that it is what comes from INSIDE a man that defiles him and how even if he never acts outwardly on what his heart does inwardly, it is still sin. But that if the inside of the cup is clean, then the outside just is as well.

Even though our conscience can lead us wrong, making us think something is sin when it isn't or something is not sin when it is, we are to follow it until we receive more wisdom from the Spirit. A faulty conscience is better than nothing...

Interesting article about the conscience;

"Consider Paul before his conversion: Saul (as he was then known) persecuted Christians with a “good conscience” (Acts 23:1). His deep-seated conviction (i.e., his conscience) told him “do right” and his ethical standard was “it is right to persecute Christians.” Thus he followed his conscience but what he did was wrong, because his deep-seated conviction (i.e., his conscience) was ill-informed. God needed to change his convictions, which He did–beginning at the Damascus Road with his salvation."

The rest of the article can be read HERE.

 

[iwant2serve]

Many people think we have to sin because we are human, yet the Bible never tells us we will always sin in any way. Actually it tells us not to sin as the writer John says I tell you these things that you sin not, but if you do sin we have an advocate with the Father Jesus the Anointed One.
I cannot speak for anyone else only my self I have not come to that place in my life but that is what I want to become and if I never make it to that point I have given my best Is what I want to do.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Many people think we have to sin because we are human, yet the Bible never tells us we will always sin in any way. Actually it tells us not to sin as the writer John says I tell you these things that you sin not, but if you do sin we have an advocate with the Father Jesus the Anointed One.
I cannot speak for anyone else only my self I have not come to that place in my life but that is what I want to become and if I never make it to that point I have given my best Is what I want to do.

1 Kings 8: [SUP]46 [/SUP]“When they sin against You (for there is no one who does not sin), and You become angry with them and deliver them to the enemy, and they take them captive to the land of the enemy, far or near

1 John 1: 8,, If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves and there is no truth in us.

 

[Johnlove]

1 Kings 8: [SUP]46 [/SUP]“When they sin against You (for there is no one who does not sin), and You become angry with them and deliver them to the enemy, and they take them captive to the land of the enemy, far or near

1 John 1: 8,, If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves and there is no truth in us.

Yes people who want to believe everyone sins, and quote that part of John’s letter to prove their belief and do so without feeling totally dishonest, I sure don’t understand.

(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who is a child of God sins because God's seed remains in him. Nor can he sin, because he is a child of God. This is what distinguishes the children of God from the children of the devil: whoever does not live uprightly and does not love his brother is not from God” New Jerusalem bible

They want people to believe John was telling those Children of God who can’t sin, that they can’t tell anyone, and if they do they will be lairs.

It takes a person who is very concerned about feeling themselves righteous even though they still sin, to believe that John was saying they were liars if they shared they no longer sinned?

I don’t believe people, when they quote 1 John 1:8-10 they expect any intelligent person to use that as to believe everyone still sins.

Also the way they are reading John’s Word, it only say if one tells someone they no longer sin they are lying. So they don’t know what John is truly saying at all.

You should know that the scripture you are quoting says: “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness”

If one is forgiven of all unrighteousness are they not then sinless?

Could they then be liars if they say they are sinless?


By the way a Spiritual Christian only needs to confess his or her sins once. The Holy Spirit keeps a Christian free from sin.

(Romans 8:1-4) “The reason, therefore, why those who are in Christ Jesus are not condemned, is that the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and death. God has done what the Law, because of our unspiritual nature, was unable to do. God dealt with sin by sending his own Son in a body as physical as any sinful body, and in that body God condemned sin he did this in order the Law’s just demands might be satisfied in us, who behave not as our unspiritual nature but as the spirit dictates.”

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Yes people who want to believe everyone sins, and quote that part of John’s letter to prove their belief and do so without feeling totally dishonest, I sure don’t understand.

(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who is a child of God sins because God's seed remains in him. Nor can he sin, because he is a child of God. This is what distinguishes the children of God from the children of the devil: whoever does not live uprightly and does not love his brother is not from God” New Jerusalem bible

They want people to believe John was telling those Children of God who can’t sin, that they can’t tell anyone, and if they do they will be lairs.

It takes a person who is very concerned about feeling themselves righteous even though they still sin, to believe that John was saying they were liars if they shared they no longer sinned?

I don’t believe people, when they quote 1 John 1:8-10 they expect any intelligent person to use that as to believe everyone still sins.

Also the way they are reading John’s Word, it only say if one tells someone they no longer sin they are lying. So they don’t know what John is truly saying at all.

You should know that the scripture you are quoting says: “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness”

If one is forgiven of all unrighteousness are they not then sinless?

Could they then be liars if they say they are sinless?


By the way a Spiritual Christian only needs to confess his or her sins once. The Holy Spirit keeps a Christian free from sin.

(Romans 8:1-4) “The reason, therefore, why those who are in Christ Jesus are not condemned, is that the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and death. God has done what the Law, because of our unspiritual nature, was unable to do. God dealt with sin by sending his own Son in a body as physical as any sinful body, and in that body God condemned sin he did this in order the Law’s just demands might be satisfied in us, who behave not as our unspiritual nature but as the spirit dictates.”

1. You forgot 1 Kings 8
2. 1 John 3: 9 - 10 speaks of habitual, or a lifestyle of sin Not that a christian can not sin, WHich is why it does not contradict 1 John 1: 8

 

[Johnlove]

1. You forgot 1 Kings 8
2. 1 John 3: 9 - 10 speaks of habitual, or a lifestyle of sin Not that a christian can not sin, WHich is why it does not contradict 1 John 1: 8

Is that so? Tell me did Jesus just not have a life style of being righteous. Did Jesus occasionally sin? John told us to be in Jesus one had to live as Jesus lived. Jesus always obeyed his Father in Heaven.

People who want to believe everyone continues to sin, need to become a better translator of the bible than those who have done it before now.

How evil those translators are.

(1 John 3:5-6) “Now you know that he appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen him or known him.” Tell me how your translators changed this scripture to meet their evil desires.

(1 John 2:5 -6) “Whoever says, 'I know him' without keeping his commandments, is a liar, and truth has no place in him. But anyone who does keep his word, in such a one God's love truly reaches its perfection. This is the proof that we are in God. Whoever claims to remain in him must act as he acted.”

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Is that so? Tell me did Jesus just not have a life style of being righteous. Did Jesus occasionally sin? John told us to be in Jesus one had to live as Jesus lived. Jesus always obeyed his Father in Heaven.

You want to try to compair yourself with Jesus? Good luck

People who want to believe everyone continues to sin, need to become a better translator of the bible than those who have done it before now.

How evil those translators are.

(1 John 3:5-6) “Now you know that he appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen him or known him.” Tell me how your translators changed this scripture to meet their evil desires.

(1 John 2:5 -6) “Whoever says, 'I know him' without keeping his commandments, is a liar, and truth has no place in him. But anyone who does keep his word, in such a one God's love truly reaches its perfection. This is the proof that we are in God. Whoever claims to remain in him must act as he acted.”

Anyone who preaches a baby christian will not sin, and even a mature christian will not sin ever again, needs to stop listening to people. and start to study Gods word.

 

[BenFTW]

So deception isn't a sin? There goes your whole sinless persona, and idea that you're perfect. If you edit what I say like that again, to make it seem as if I am saying something else, I will report you. That is slander and defamation. You weren't exposing anything, what I said was plain faced. You made it seem as if I was saying that sin is irrelevant and that is not what my message was saying.

You're acting just as bad as the people who quote preachers out of context in videos trying to expose a heresy. Its disingenuous and a lie. You speak of deadly poison and dead men's bones but look no further than the mirror to see a white tomb with a rotting body on the inside. Just like Jesus said to the pharisees. You paint a picture of perfection, but your actions betray you and expose you. How can you say you do not sin but then bear false witness through editing?

I apologize if this is a little forward, but you ought to come to terms with reality. You still sin but God's grace is sufficient. VVhy do you hide from this truth? VVhy put on a mask? VVho are you trying to impress? Your doctrine enslaves people, it puts them in chains of self reflection instead of Christ exaltation. It makes of people hypocrites and liars. That is a deadly poison, one that condemns in the heart. That is no Gospel at all.

Probably could've used a little meekness, lol.

 

[Johnlove]

]You want to try to compair yourself with Jesus? Good luck

This is a straw man argument, and I believe the use of it is very nasty. Also you ignored my questions, did you not?

You obviously don’t understand the Good News that Jesus brought to us.

It is Jesus/God in a person that makes it possible for one to live God’s Word.

(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”

(John 14:21) “Anybody who receives my commandments and keeps them will be one who loves me; and anybody who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and show myself to him.”


Anyone who preaches a baby christian will not sin, and even a mature christian will not sin ever again, needs to stop listening to people. and start to study Gods word.

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Another straw man argument.

Only a Christian who has been given the knowledge of the truth, is a Child of God. A Child of God has the indwelling of God, and will never sin. An infant in Christ still sins, and is not spiritual. Such a person if he or she does not keep God’s Word will be judged by God’s Word on the last day.

(John 12:47-48) “If anyone hears my words and does not keep them faithfully, it is not I who shall condemn him, since I have come not to condemn the world, but to save the world: he who rejects me and refuses my words has his judge already: the word itself that I have spoken will be his judge on the last day.” Jerusalem Bible

(1 Corinthians 3:1-3) “Brothers, I myself was unable to speak to you as people of the Spirit; I treated you as sensual men, still infants in Christ. What I fed you with was milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it; and indeed, you are still not ready for it since you are still unspiritual. Isn’t that obvious from all the jealousy and wrangling that there is among you, from the way that you go on behaving like ordinary people?”

(Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies. Anyone who disregards the Law of Moses is ruthlessly put to death on the word of two witnesses or three; and you may be sure that anyone who tramples on the Son of God, and who treats the blood of the covenant which sanctified him as if it were not holy, and who insults the Spirit of grace, will be condemned to a far severer punishment. We are all aware who it was that said: Vengeance is mine; I will vindicate his people. It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.”

 

[UnderGrace]

Well, maybe it is just me, but why do we keep talking about sin, sin was dealt with on the cross.
If I think about sin then am I not gazing at the law again, since sin is revealed by the law?

The law only condemns 2 Cor. 3:19.

I think we should focus on Jesus and stop being sin cops, because He able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us. Ephesians 3:20

 

[eternally-gratefull]

This is a straw man argument, and I believe the use of it is very nasty. Also you ignored my questions, did you not?

You obviously don’t understand the Good News that Jesus brought to us.

It is Jesus/God in a person that makes it possible for one to live God’s Word.

(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”

(John 14:21) “Anybody who receives my commandments and keeps them will be one who loves me; and anybody who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and show myself to him.”


Anyone who preaches a baby christian will not sin, and even a mature christian will not sin ever again, needs to stop listening to people. and start to study Gods word.

1. Non of those say a man or woman will be sinless
2. I did not ignore your questions
3. I believe you MOCK GOD by saying YOU CAN BE SINLESS..

so please. lets get off the pride paraide and show some humility

Another straw man argument.

Oh? I was serious. DO you think you are like Jesus, ONLY GOD IS GOOD (SINLESS) Those are jesus words not mine..

Only a Christian who has been given the knowledge of the truth, is a Child of God. A Child of God has the indwelling of God, and will never sin. An infant in Christ still sins, and is not spiritual. Such a person if he or she does not keep God’s Word will be judged by God’s Word on the last day.

where do you get this stuff?

A baby christian is just as much a christian as I am.. He is born of god, and sealed by the spirit. He has started his LIFETIME journey of growing and maturing in Christ.

(John 12:47-48) “If anyone hears my words and does not keep them faithfully, it is not I who shall condemn him, since I have come not to condemn the world, but to save the world: he who rejects me and refuses my words has his judge already: the word itself that I have spoken will be his judge on the last day.” Jerusalem Bible

(1 Corinthians 3:1-3) “Brothers, I myself was unable to speak to you as people of the Spirit; I treated you as sensual men, still infants in Christ. What I fed you with was milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it; and indeed, you are still not ready for it since you are still unspiritual. Isn’t that obvious from all the jealousy and wrangling that there is among you, from the way that you go on behaving like ordinary people?”

(Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies. Anyone who disregards the Law of Moses is ruthlessly put to death on the word of two witnesses or three; and you may be sure that anyone who tramples on the Son of God, and who treats the blood of the covenant which sanctified him as if it were not holy, and who insults the Spirit of grace, will be condemned to a far severer punishment. We are all aware who it was that said: Vengeance is mine; I will vindicate his people. It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.”

You have not read of Old Testament sinners (I mean saints) Like king David, Abraham and others have you?

If you think you love others, and god completely 24/7 you do not understand what true love is, It means never, not even ONCE do you put your needs above any other human being and many other things..

 

[Johnlove]

1. Non of those say a man or woman will be sinless
2. I did not ignore your questions
3. I believe you MOCK GOD by saying YOU CAN BE SINLESS..

so please. lets get off the pride paraide and show some humility



Oh? I was serious. DO you think you are like Jesus, ONLY GOD IS GOOD (SINLESS) Those are jesus words not mine..


where do you get this stuff?

A baby christian is just as much a christian as I am.. He is born of god, and sealed by the spirit. He has started his LIFETIME journey of growing and maturing in Christ.



You have not read of Old Testament sinners (I mean saints) Like king David, Abraham and others have you?

If you think you love others, and god completely 24/7 you do not understand what true love is, It means never, not even ONCE do you put your needs above any other human being and many other things..

If you could understand the following scripture, then you would know that a Christian does not sin. A Christian is a follower of Jesus Christ our Lord and God. Know this where God makes his home there is the kingdom of God.

(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”

(Matthew 11:11) “Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has risen no one greater than John the Baptist. Yet even the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.’

 

[DeaconMike]

Not unless your unconscience or are mentally handicapped or under the are of reason and die before your able to make moral choices.

 

[Johnlove]

Not unless your unconscience or are mentally handicapped or under the are of reason and die before your able to make moral choices.

(Romans 8:1-4) “The reason, therefore, why those who are in Christ Jesus are not condemned, is that the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and death. God has done what the Law, because of our unspiritual nature, was unable to do. God dealt with sin by sending his own Son in a body as physical as any sinful body, and in that body God condemned sin he did this in order the Law’s just demands might be satisfied in us, who behave not as our unspiritual nature but as the spirit dictates.”
(1 John 3:5-6) “Now you know that he appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen him or known him.”

(1 John 2:5 -6) “Whoever says, 'I know him' without keeping his commandments, is a liar, and truth has no place in him. But anyone who does keep his word, in such a one God's love truly reaches its perfection. This is the proof that we are in God. Whoever claims to remain in him must act as he acted.”

(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who is a child of God sins because God's seed remains in him. Nor can he sin, because he is a child of God. This is what distinguishes the children of God from the children of the devil: whoever does not live uprightly and does not love his brother is not from God” New Jerusalem bible

(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God. In this way we distinguish the children of God from the children of the devil: anybody not living a holy life and not loving his brother is no child of God’s.”

 

[seed_time_harvest]

“You do not know me or my Father,” Jesus replied. “If you knew me, you would know my Father also.”

Amen.JESUS was /Is the WORD of GOD manifested In the flesh.

 

[Johnlove]

Amen.JESUS was /Is the WORD of GOD manifested In the flesh.

Yes and Jesus Christ said the following.

(John 12:47-48) “If anyone hears my words and does not keep them faithfully, it is not I who shall condemn him, since I have come not to condemn the world, but to save the world: he who rejects me and refuses my words has his judge already: the word itself that I have spoken will be his judge on the last day.” Jerusalem Bible

By the way Jesus called us to be perfect and his Father in Heaven is perfect.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

If you could understand the following scripture, then you would know that a Christian does not sin. A Christian is a follower of Jesus Christ our Lord and God. Know this where God makes his home there is the kingdom of God.

(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”

This says we will keep his word, Not that we will not sin.. Sorry bro.. I can not see it.

(Matthew 11:11) “Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has risen no one greater than John the Baptist. Yet even the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

Nor does this say a person will not sin

If you understood, God called david a man after his own heart, And this was before he committed adultery and murder. You would understand a man can be considered a morally upright person, Yet still sin.

 

[Johnlove]

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This says we will keep his word, Not that we will not sin.. Sorry bro.. I can not see it.


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Nor does this say a person will not sin

If you understood, God called david a man after his own heart, And this was before he committed adultery and murder. You would understand a man can be considered a morally upright person, Yet still sin.

Like I said if you understood then you would not be blind to the truth.

(Matthew 5:48) “Even the pagans do as much, do they not? You must therefore be perfect just as your heavenly Father is perfect.”

By the way the above scripture are Jesus’ Words.