Can a So-Called Cafeteria Christian be a True Believer?

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Spherical said:
I do not knowingly deny any of Christ's divine revelation to man. This is what we must strive for.
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by 'word and deed' I am not only referring to 'knowing' but also doing.
 
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Grace777x70 said:

What do you mean by "to deny the totality of Christ's divine revelation to man"? Give us an example.
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Spherical said:
Christ has reveled many things. We must not choose to deny anything Christ has revealed. Do you believe someone can deny, any of Christ's divine revelation, with full knowledge and consent, and still get to heaven?
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Do you mean "the WORD of GOD" manifested In flesh?
 
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by 'word and deed' I am not only referring to 'knowing' but also doing.
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No one has the ability to follow God's commandments perfectly. We are able to choose to not deny any of Christ's divine revelations to man.
 
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Spherical said:
Christ does not save people in their denial of His divine truth. If you knowingly deny any of Christ's divine revelations to man, you are not saved. Either you choose to not deny any of Christ's divine revelations to man (Heaven), or, you choose to deny some of Christ's divine revelations to man (Hell). God does not allow any middle ground in your choice.
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Remember that GOD looked at that mans heart.You and I may not like what we see as far as appearances,but we cannot make a right judgement about what Is on the Inside of him that GOD sees.(unless of course GOD tells you)

We can only see the fruit and that Is a right judgement.

I hope You can understand what I am trying to say. :)
 
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Spherical said:
Christ has reveled many things. We must not choose to deny anything Christ has revealed. Do you believe someone can deny, any of Christ's divine revelation, with full knowledge and consent, and still get to heaven?
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You still haven't told us what you mean. Give us an example. You are talking in absolutes about things that have not been defined yet.

It's like saying "We must believe all of God's word".
 
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Spherical said:
Are you on the road to heaven, or, are you a so-called Cafeteria Christian, a partial believer, choosing to deny Christ's divine revelation to man in its totality?
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The totality of divine revelation has revealed that the life we look forward to post resurrection is not in heaven, but on the new earth. Do you think the new earth with be a sphere?
 
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The totality of divine revelation has revealed that the life we look forward to post resurrection is not in heaven, but on the new earth. Do you think the new earth with be a sphere?
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I doubt the new earth will be based on NASA'S models'.
 
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By what standard do you use to determine if a person is a cafeteria Christian? Is it by what you believe is correct Doctrines and belief?

Tell us exactly what believes do you believe makes a person a cafeteria Christian?
 
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Spherical said:
I doubt the new earth will be based on NASA'S models'.
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Do you agree that our life eternal in Christ will not be in heaven as your OP suggests? Too many people speak in a way that does not reflect revealed Biblical truths. If you have had the Truth revealed to you, why not speak in a way that is congruent with it? Speaking of life in heaven sounds very RCC.
 
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Spherical said:
Christ has reveled many things. We must not choose to deny anything Christ has revealed. Do you believe someone can deny, any of Christ's divine revelation, with full knowledge and consent, and still get to heaven?
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IMO you are talking about salvation by grace through faith and then renewing your mind to the new creation that you have become called "progressive sanctification".

But nevertheless would you agree that a person has to first be reborn?
 
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Originally Posted by Grace777x70


You still haven't told us what you mean. Give us an example. You are talking in absolutes about things that have not been defined yet.

It's like saying "We must believe all of God's word".




Spherical said:
You know exactly what I mean.
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I believe in everything the Holy Spirit has revealed to me about Jesus but this is obviously just going to be a waste of time with this "circle talk".....I'm out of this discussion.
 
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A person can't knowingly deny any of Christ's divine revelations to man and be reborn.
 
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Spherical said:
A person can't knowingly deny any of Christ's divine revelations to man and be reborn.
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People often complain about how Christians understand God and Jesus Christ differently from one another, and use that as an excuse to say we cannot possibly be speaking of the same entity. And yet, if you grew up in a family with siblings, you know very well that your experiences and beliefs and feelings in relation your parents and siblings vary from that of your other siblings. People really don't have as much common sense as they like to think they do :p
 
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Grace777x70 said:
Originally Posted by Grace777x70


You still haven't told us what you mean. Give us an example. You are talking in absolutes about things that have not been defined yet.

It's like saying "We must believe all of God's word".






I believe in everything the Holy Spirit has revealed to me about Jesus but this is obviously just going to be a waste of time with this "circle talk".....I'm out of this discussion.
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If you truly do not deny any of Christ's divine revelations to man, you would already have examples. You would not need an example from me.
 
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Magenta said:
People often complain about how Christians understand God and Jesus Christ differently from one another, and use that as an excuse to say we cannot possibly be speaking of the same entity. And yet, if you grew up in a family with siblings, you know very well that your experiences and beliefs and feelings in relation your parents and siblings vary from that of your other siblings. People really don't have as much common sense as they like to think they do :p
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At some point in time, they are no longer ignorant, they choose to remain in their errors.
 
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