Can a So-Called Cafeteria Christian be a True Believer?

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KenAllan

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One of the revelation that God has given was that we are Predestined to believe in Him and Predestined to receive Salvation.

Also given was the Revelation we can never lose our Salvation.
 
Grace777x70

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Spherical said:
If you truly do not deny any of Christ's divine revelations to man, you would already have examples. You would not need an example from me.
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You are still not saying anything of any substance yet.....we are just going in useless circles in this...Well all is not lost, at least we can sing about it!


[video=youtube;FAVKG0I6XXA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAVKG0I6XXA[/video]
 
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In John 3:18, Jesus clearly said - He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Either we believe in Him/entrust our spiritual well being to Christ or else we don't. There is no middle ground.
 
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mailmandan said:
In John 3:18, Jesus clearly said - He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Either we believe in Him/entrust our spiritual well being to Christ or else we don't. There is no middle ground.
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A person can't knowingly deny any of Christ's divine revelations and be a believer.
 
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Spherical said:
At some point in time, they are no longer ignorant, they choose to remain in their errors.
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Change is hard, and surrender to the other side not easy when one has been blinded by the god of this world. And yet that is where we all started out. However, people still will say that the lost cannot understand the gospel message, making null and void the command from Jesus Christ Himself to preach the Word of God to a lost and dying world. It takes all kinds. Each plays their role.
 
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Could it be Spherical that maybe you are a cafeteria Christian? Because you have not defined what Doctrines you believe are true Doctrines. All you have done is talk in circles.
 
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Grace777x70 said:
You are still not saying anything of any substance yet.....we are just going in useless circles in this...Well all is not lost, at least we can sing about it!


[video=youtube;FAVKG0I6XXA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAVKG0I6XXA[/video]
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If you can give me an example of any of Christ's divine revelations to man that you believe we are not obligated to believe, please feel free to do so. You want to pick and choose you beliefs based on person preference and not based on the totality of Christ's divine revealed truth to man.
 
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Spherical said:
A person can't knowingly deny any of Christ's divine revelations and be a believer.
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Which divine revelations of Christ are you talking about that are being denied?
 
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Spherical said:
If you truly do not deny any of Christ's divine revelations to man, you would already have examples. You would not need an example from me.
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Hello Spherical
I wanted to suggest for the sake of the listerners that you replace the words "CHRIST divine revelations" with "the WORD of GOD" just so your thread will be easier to understand and we can get a good discussion going. :)
 
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mailmandan said:
Which divine revelations of Christ are you talking about that are being denied?
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It's hard to get it out of him...at least 6 people have asked this already...???

It's like we are pulling out his last remaining tooth or that it is a big mystery but every one should know what he is talking about.
 
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I wonder what his angle is. Whoops! That's Willie-T's line. :eek:
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LOL..Yep..Willie-T has been around the "circle of life" and knows what questions to ask to see what is really going on. I like that about him.
 
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KenAllan said:
Could it be Spherical that maybe you are a cafeteria Christian? Because you have not defined what Doctrines you believe are true Doctrines. All you have done is talk in circles.
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God, through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, knows if a person refuses to believe any of Christ's divine revelations to man. Do you believe we are required to believe or at least not deny any of Christ's divine revelations to man?
 
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seed_time_harvest said:
Hello Spherical
I wanted to suggest for the sake of the listerners that you replace the words "CHRIST divine revelations" with "the WORD of GOD" just so your thread will be easier to understand and we can get a good discussion going. :)
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What part of "CHRIST divine revelations" do you not understand?
 
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True Doctrine: Salvation is received By Faith only.
True Doctrine: Water Baptism is not need to receive Salvation.
True Doctrine: We are sinless in the eyes of God.
True Doctrine: Eternity in the Lake of Fire, suffering forever.
 
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KenAllan said:
One of the revelation that God has given was that we are Predestined to believe in Him and Predestined to receive Salvation.

Also given was the Revelation we can never lose our Salvation.
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Doe's that include Catholics or are they excluded?
 
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