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The entirety of the events described in Revelation 6:12-17 occur after the Great Tribulation; however, they overlap the trumpet events - as well as the "time of God's wrath" and the "time of Jacob's trouble" - which are two separate things - they are not the same thing. However, the "time of Jacob's trouble" ( Armageddon ) occurs within the time frame of the "time of God's wrath"...
The time of Jacobs trouble, and the great tribulation are two events which both state are worste then the world has ever seen..
God uses the whole of the tribulation to turn Jacob back to him, starting with the 14400
The trumpet events occur before the return of Christ. The vials ( 'Wrath of God' ) occur after the return of Christ. ( It is Jesus Himself who "dishes [ ALL of ] it out"... )
The wrath of God is the WHOLE of the tribulation.
The wrath of God was poured out on the Northern kindgom by using Syria to destroy them. The wrath of God was taken out on the southern kingdom by using babylon to destroy them. The wrath of God used the roman army to destroy the city and temple in 70 AD. Many times God uses people to spread his wrath. The tribulation as a whole is the wrath of God. In some instances, he uses these evil rulers. Armies, Natural disasters etc etc.
All these seals, trumpets and vials are called judgments by God. they ALl are a part of his wrath.
Again, A time of tribulation such as never has been seen. As jesus said, if he did not return. All life would die. Why> the tribulation is GREAT. The warefare and poison done by man in those years would wipe out all life.
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This has not happened yet. It occurs after - not during - the Great Tribulation.
This has not happened yet. It occurs after - not during - the Great Tribulation.