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Can Anyone Who Believes in Jesus Start a Christian Sect/Denomination?

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maxwel

maxwel

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Let me add a point "C" to my previous conclusion from post #19:


Personal Observation:
a.) This kind of confusion and contradiction seldom comes from ordinary Christians.
b.) This kind of contradiction usually comes from people pretending to be Christians, who are poking around Christian forums to either troll, or to collect research data.
c.) This is even more suspect when one is posting short, curt, specific polls, which will yield not only specific data points, but actual mathematical numbers... and all of this instead of just chatting casually with other humans about what's on your mind.

Have a nice weekend everyone.
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maxwel

maxwel

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Eli1 said:
Maxwell I like your answers and your reasoning. You convinced me and you changed my mind on another thread.
‘In the topic of denominations I’ve made peace with this a long time ago. I think everybody is right because the commonality is Jesus. Because if the alternative is true it means that Christianity is false.

What is your opinion on this matter?

Thank you.
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The thesis of this thread, per the OP, isn't really about the efficacy or virtue of denominations, but just the matter of who has authority to create one.
It's a truly odd and specific question.

If you want to talk about denominations in a general sense, pls just pm, or start a new thread for that.
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RaceRunner

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maxwel said:
The thesis of this thread, per the OP, isn't really about the efficacy or virtue of denominations, but just the matter of who has authority to create one.
It's a truly odd and specific question.

If you want to talk about denominations in a general sense, pls just pm, or start a new thread for that.
: )
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My question stands as is.
 
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RaceRunner

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maxwel said:
Ok, let's recap:
a.) You say you're a Christian, you're non-denominational, and you don't attend church.
b.) You say you "NEED TO KNOW" about starting a denomination, although by your own admission, you don't believe in denominations, and you don't even attend church.
c.) You say you "NEED TO KNOW" the biblical status of starting a denomination, although you specifically said you have no interest in starting a denomination.

So, if I've got this right...
you are posting polls about things which you "NEED TO KNOW", while simultaneously admitting you have no genuine interest in those things at all.

I find this all very confusing.


Personal Observation:
a.) This kind of confusion and contradiction seldom comes from ordinary Christians.
b.) This kind of contradiction usually comes from people pretending to be Christians, who are poking around Christian forums to either troll, or to collect research data.

But hey, what do I know?

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I am very interested in these topics; discussing these topics is helping me make peace with God.
 
Cameron143

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I would say no for at least 2 reasons:

1. Jesus didn't start a denomination/sect; He began a church. As a church we represent His body which connects all true believers. Why would He want to foster disunity in His own body?

2. As Christians we are sheep. We don't lead; we follow. If the Lord leads you to begin a local gathering of saints then you should. But that shouldn't be considered a denomination or sect but a local body of believers...a church.
 
I

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RaceRunner said:
Start a Christian Sect/Denomination?

What are the minimum requirements?
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There is only one name given under heaven by which we can be saved.

Church denominations have no power to save anyone.

There can be only one, true church, the body of Christ, two or more believers in a gathering. Is effectively the church.

When two or more Christians are gathered, then Jesus will be present, that is the church.

That can be in a park, in someone's house, in a designated building, in a large tent.

A church is not geographically defined, the body of Christ is a spiritual entity.
 
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Jocund said:
Belief in Jesus by itself is not the sole factor to consider (otherwise Moslems would count as Christians). To be a Christian, there are a range of concepts that need to be accepted.

To your question, yes, historically many individuals presented their school of thought and movements started following those schools of thought. These movements resulted in denominations being formed.

There are circumstances where a school of thought diverges sufficiently to become a nonChristian religion due to violating core Christian concepts.
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If there are other concepts to consider, then you open the door to a thousand denominations.

A simple faith in Jesus will remove all factional thinking.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.

The flesh loves and thrives in factions, politics is overflowing with factions.
 
Jocund

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Inquisitor said:
If there are other concepts to consider, then you open the door to a thousand denominations.

A simple faith in Jesus will remove all factional thinking.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.

The flesh loves and thrives in factions, politics is overflowing with factions.
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One body, yes, but an eye and an ear are going to have different perspectives despite being part of the same body.

There are degrees of freedom in some subtopics but the core principles are the same. 1000 denominations might not actually mean that there would be a wide gap between those denominations. Many Christian denominations recognize each other's baptisms, confirmations, etc. They just happen to have some different opinions about doctrines or what may be considered inspired material beyond the Bible. You might have thousands of specialized cells in your body doing different things, but they still belong to the same body and are holistically in harmony even if the appear to be in opposition to one-another.

We are encouraged to honour father and mother and sometimes that includes traditions, rituals, etc. that have been passed down. Of course we are going to see differences between congregations. I don't think uniformity in every aspect would be the goal of the body of Christ. Ears and eyes. But the moral of the story with Paul vs. Peter is that there are limits placed on customs and culture. If a custom conflicts with the law of Christ, we throw it out.
 
JaumeJ

JaumeJ

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RaceRunner said:
Start a Christian Sect/Denomination?

What are the minimum requirements?
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RaceRunner said:
Start a Christian Sect/Denomination?

What are the minimum requirements?
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The main way would be not to understand the Bible completely and having a doctrine which does not coinicide with the teachings of all the others.

Otherwise you will need to be satisfied with theWord, that is, Jesus Yeshua Who makes us all descendants of Abraham, The Father of Nations.
 
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