Can I call myself a Christian if I'm unsure I'm born again

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I believe that being saved can also be referenced as being christened, or the men of the old t, whom Jesus went and preached to in Abrahams bosom where saved. But had not yet received salvation,,
Water is not accepted by God to save you.
If it was then Jesus didn't have to be Virgin born and sent to be tortured on the Cross, bleeding out, to die for your sin.

God accepts only your FAITH in Christ, to take you as His own.

Jesus said...>" i came into the world to save SINNERS".
So, understanding you are one, and that you need forgiveness for your sin,= you go to Christ and receive Him as your Savior... by faith.
God will take your faith, and give you His "Gift of Salvation" and the new Birth.... = born again. and that "not by water but by my SPIRIT sayeth the LORD".

If you know you went to that Cross of Christ knowing you needed to be forgiven all your sin, and trusted in Christ, then God took you as His own, and birthed you as born again.
You dont have to feel this....but its truly important to KNOW that day, that moment, occured in your past when you went to that Cross as a sinner, and said...."save me Lord, i trust in you Jesus".

God remembers that day forever, but you have remember it, or it didn't happen yet, reader.
 

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Water is not accepted by God to save you.
If it was then Jesus didn't have to be Virgin born and sent to be tortured on the Cross, bleeding out, to die for your sin.

God accepts only your FAITH in Christ, to take you as His own.

Jesus said...>" i came into the world to save SINNERS".
So, understanding you are one, and that you need forgiveness for your sin,= you go to Christ and receive Him as your Savior... by faith.
God will take your faith, and give you His "Gift of Salvation" and the new Birth.... = born again. and that "not by water but by my SPIRIT sayeth the LORD".

If you know you went to that Cross of Christ knowing you needed to be forgiven all your sin, and trusted in Christ, then God took you as His own, and birthed you as born again.
You dont have to feel this....but its truly important to KNOW that day, that moment, occured in your past when you went to that Cross as a sinner, and said...."save me Lord, i trust in you Jesus".

God remembers that day forever, but you have remember it, or it didn't happen yet, reader.
I totally agree with all this. But maybe you need to read the whole thread.

Where you will see my total transformation in thinking :).
 

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I watched this video and it causes me frustration...

Going to heaven for eternity is not in alignement with what the Bible teaches.....

The Eternal Lake of fire is Not in Hell.. Hell will be cast into the Lake of Fire..
 

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I watched this video and it causes me frustration...

Going to heaven for eternity is not in alignement with what the Bible teaches.....

The Eternal Lake of fire is Not in Hell.. Hell will be cast into the Lake of Fire..
If that's the only thing disturbing you about that video. I would say that's a good thing.
 

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I believe that being saved can also be referenced as being christened, or the men of the old t, whom Jesus went and preached to in Abrahams bosom where saved. But had not yet received salvation,

Can I be saved until i am born again.

Theres indication that I must believe in the father befor I can possibly truly believe in the son.

Jesus said to his decipels you have believed in the father now believe in me.

I am practicing Christianity, but I'm unsure I have received salvation. I was christened into the church of England and have always thought my faith or title was a Protestant,
I was also christened in the church of England. I was not born again. I believed the basics. Jesus is God, died and rose again and so on. I can still recite the apostle's creed. It meant as much to me as the fact that Nero was emperor of Rome.

We do not receive salvation. We receive Christ, and He saves us.

John 1: 12 & 13

But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God—children born not of blood, nor of the desire or will of man, but born of God.

It is vital to know that God saves sinners. Most people believe that they are fundamentally good. I was a suicidal drunk but I considered myself to be good. It's not a religion or a club that you sign up for. It's new life in Christ and a personal relationship with God through Christ. I suggest that you read the gospel of John. It will help you see what you need to see.
 

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I was also christened in the church of England. I was not born again. I believed the basics. Jesus is God, died and rose again and so on. I can still recite the apostle's creed. It meant as much to me as the fact that Nero was emperor of Rome.

We do not receive salvation. We receive Christ, and He saves us.

John 1: 12 & 13

But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God—children born not of blood, nor of the desire or will of man, but born of God.

It is vital to know that God saves sinners. Most people believe that they are fundamentally good. I was a suicidal drunk but I considered myself to be good. It's not a religion or a club that you sign up for. It's new life in Christ and a personal relationship with God through Christ. I suggest that you read the gospel of John. It will help you see what you need to see.
Have you read the whole thread ?. Yes or no.

I believe I'm saved and believe that when we recieve God the son we also recieve the fruits of God the holy spirit which is the second birth of the soul. Which is sanctioned By God the father.

Jesus said no one comes to father accept through me, my mum taught me this also, and would read scriptures to me every night befor I went to sleep.

I believe this is salvation are you saying recieving Christ is not recieving salvation of your soul.
Surely if you have received Christ, you have also received the fruit of the holy spirit, which keeps your soul saved on a daily bases.
Is that not salvation. ?


Sorry you've lost me.

All my posts I have expressed why I feal I'm saved including displaying fruits and feeling Convicted.
I haven't once accused anyone directly that there not saved.

I have listened to what I feal are true believers faith here and took it in which has restored my faith. My question was am I saved I was confused with what baptism of fire ment.

If you read the whole thread you will see my faith is restored.

I read the gospel of John over and over and mark Luke Mathew.

I became unstuck with the baptism of fire I didn't know what it ment. Then when I came here I learnt some very valuable information, that thankfully and luckily somebody was able to spot my missing link which was how baptism of fire worked.
Since then it's been a roller coaster for me.
Because I could have been sent in the wrong direction.

Like being told to work it out for my self.

That's not how I roll. I believe mature elders spiritually grown can help with counselling.

Whilst reading the Gospel of John will help me see something it will only help me see that something if I believe which I do but I still could be come unstuck.

I wasn't sure if the relation ship i was allready having with something Good ment I was born again.

My mum died and I dint't get much time to speak about faith with mum as a mature person. But my mum always disciplined me with love. And taught me pray as a child everyday befor school. And at every meal. My mum would always teach me things and say this is how Jesus in heaven likes you to believe and always teaching me I should always try to please God by behaving Good. I never went to church. My mum would watch sermons on a Sunday because she was house bound.

Then my mum passed away and I turned to drink and became lost in my way.
But for almost two weeks now I haven't touched a drop of brandy. The hard stuff.
 

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Well, if the internet says it..... :rolleyes:

:)
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I watched this video and it causes me frustration...

Going to heaven for eternity is not in alignement with what the Bible teaches.....

The Eternal Lake of fire is Not in Hell.. Hell will be cast into the Lake of Fire..
"God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
John 3

Your destination is determined by the Object of your trust. If you believe that you must live up to a certain standard, then your destination will be hell. Eventually death and hell will be cast into a BIGGER HELL called the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone. Revelation 21:8.

However, if you decide to reject your own righteousness and good works altogether and make Jesus, the bodily risen Christ, Who was crucified on an actual cross, then the other promise applies to you. You will receive the gift of everlasting life, salvation from hell. Wherever Jesus lives is called heaven. That life never ends . If you want more details there are in depth studies, but it would be best to focus on this first. We do know that after Jesus conquers Satan and brings His wrath upon the earth, that eventually He will bring down the New Jerusalem to the renewed earth. Yes, it will be inhabited by believers that lived in heaven prior.
 

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"God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
John 3

Your destination is determined by the Object of your trust. If you believe that you must live up to a certain standard, then your destination will be hell. Eventually death and hell will be cast into a BIGGER HELL called the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone. Revelation 21:8.

However, if you decide to reject your own righteousness and good works altogether and make Jesus, the bodily risen Christ, Who was crucified on an actual cross, then the other promise applies to you. You will receive the gift of everlasting life, salvation from hell. Wherever Jesus lives is called heaven. That life never ends . If you want more details there are in depth studies, but it would be best to focus on this first. We do know that after Jesus conquers Satan and brings His wrath upon the earth, that eventually He will bring down the New Jerusalem to the renewed earth. Yes, it will be inhabited by believers that lived in heaven prior.
Yes thats what my point was about. Well half of my point.. Our eternal Home is going to come OUT of heaven and down to the New Earth and we shall be living there forever and ever... Not in heaven..
 

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Yes thats what my point was about. Well half of my point.. Our eternal Home is going to come OUT of heaven and down to the New Earth and we shall be living there forever and ever... Not in heaven..
I think the man in the video was wanting o be thorough enough to lead people to Christ, but not so detailed as to lose the listeners.
The main thing is that we understand that the way there is by the grace of God through faith in Jesus without works. Is there a time in your life that has taken place?
 

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Yes thats what my point was about. Well half of my point.. Our eternal Home is going to come OUT of heaven and down to the New Earth and we shall be living there forever and ever... Not in heaven..
This is a common misunderstanding. The New Jerusalem does NOT come down to earth. It remains a heavenly body giving light to the earth. It replaces the sun, and the light which comes from it is the Light of God and of the Lamb. So in effect our eternal home remains in Heaven.
 

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I think the man in the video was wanting o be thorough enough to lead people to Christ, but not so detailed as to lose the listeners.
The main thing is that we understand that the way there is by the grace of God through faith in Jesus without works. Is there a time in your life that has taken place?
Yes i found out about this Gospel when i first read the Bible when i was in my early 20's.. I jumped with joy at the opportunity to embrace The LORDs Way of salvation.. But beyond this important information in scriptures the Bible has so much more if people are willing to read it.. It is frustrating that so many Christians,, even those who put themselves forward as public preachers and evangelists have not read the entire Bible.. A lot of false doctrines could be avoided if the body of the Believers would simply read the Bible.. Just once in their lives..
 

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This is a common misunderstanding. The New Jerusalem does NOT come down to earth. It remains a heavenly body giving light to the earth. It replaces the sun, and the light which comes from it is the Light of God and of the Lamb. So in effect our eternal home remains in Heaven.
So the meek will not inherit the earth ?
So when God creates a New heaven and a New Earth He will be creating a New empty earth?

As for me the New Jerusalem will be coming down to the New Earth and we shall be living in it on earth.. The meek shall inherit the earth finally...