Can Someone Explain Rev. 12:1-6 to Me?
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Um, the temple and the city were made desolate (destroyed) at the same time.
Agreed, and both Matthew and Luke spoke of the desolation (destruction) of the city and the temple. It was Paul's letter to the Thessalonians that foretold the false messiah sitting in the temple, which is something different from the city and the temple being encircled by the Roman armies who would destroy them.
But being desolated means being destroyed. Once the city and the temple were destroyed the war was over and it was a bit late to flee then. The warning to flee was seeing the Roman armies encircling the city, which they did in the spring of 70 A.D., in fact it was at the time of Passover and the city was filled with festival pilgrims, which accounts for the prodigious number of Jews who were caught in the city and died. But seeing the Roman armies the Christians knew that was the sign they had been warned about they fled to Pella and were thus saved.
But Luke didn't say when they saw the Roman armies enter Galilee (which was the first province the Romans attacked 3 1/2 years before they besieged Jerusalem). Luke said when they saw the Roman armies "encompass Jerusalem" they should flee. Perhaps I'm nit-picking but I think it's important to fit all the details.
But how wonderful to talk with someone so knowledgable about the actual history of the last days of the Old Covenant age.
In Christ,
Pilgrimer
Agreed, and both Matthew and Luke spoke of the desolation (destruction) of the city and the temple. It was Paul's letter to the Thessalonians that foretold the false messiah sitting in the temple, which is something different from the city and the temple being encircled by the Roman armies who would destroy them.
But being desolated means being destroyed. Once the city and the temple were destroyed the war was over and it was a bit late to flee then. The warning to flee was seeing the Roman armies encircling the city, which they did in the spring of 70 A.D., in fact it was at the time of Passover and the city was filled with festival pilgrims, which accounts for the prodigious number of Jews who were caught in the city and died. But seeing the Roman armies the Christians knew that was the sign they had been warned about they fled to Pella and were thus saved.
But Luke didn't say when they saw the Roman armies enter Galilee (which was the first province the Romans attacked 3 1/2 years before they besieged Jerusalem). Luke said when they saw the Roman armies "encompass Jerusalem" they should flee. Perhaps I'm nit-picking but I think it's important to fit all the details.
But how wonderful to talk with someone so knowledgable about the actual history of the last days of the Old Covenant age.
In Christ,
Pilgrimer
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World War II was the deadliest military conflict in history. Over 60 million people were killed, which was over 2.5% of the world population
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if 2 million died in the 70 ad seige. that would be about 3 % of the people who died in WW2.. makes the "great tribulation such has never been seen before, nor shall ever be seen after" meaningless doesn't it
to add to this, it is estimated 4 to 6 million jews were killed by the german army.. they killed 2 - 3 more times the amount that the romans did.
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if 2 million died in the 70 ad seige. that would be about 3 % of the people who died in WW2.. makes the "great tribulation such has never been seen before, nor shall ever be seen after" meaningless doesn't it
to add to this, it is estimated 4 to 6 million jews were killed by the german army.. they killed 2 - 3 more times the amount that the romans did.
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