Can we go with a little discernment on here once in a while?

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Asking and getting answers that do not agree with the one who asked the question always ends up as "DEBATING". Most of the time, the question is LOADED...and lots of the time, the question has NOTHING to do with CHRIST at all. Come to the Christian chat forum, where you can find recipes, choosing the right kind of pet, and the latest political news!
 

Reborn

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Asking and getting answers that do not agree with the one who asked the question always ends up as "DEBATING". Most of the time, the question is LOADED...and lots of the time, the question has NOTHING to do with CHRIST at all. Come to the Christian chat forum, where you can find recipes, choosing the right kind of pet, and the latest political news!
Blah, blah, blah.
 

MarcR

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I still think there should be available a Room for new believers to ask questions AND no debating allowed.
Great Idea! Please put it on the suggestion board. Maybe an ADMIN will like the idea.
 

MarcR

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If this site wasn't advertised as a Christian chat, I would agree that controversy would be the main focus. But since it isn't, controversy always gives a bad witness for Christ's sake, and puts Him to an open shame. So shame on us for arguing.
A forum is designed to be an appropriate chanel for controversy. (Hopefully, it keeps the controversy oht of the church fellowship; where it has no place. I wish we could agree to argue without rudeness; but that doesn't seem likely.
 
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psychomom

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I wasn't trying to shift any focus nor am I opposed to being called out. I mean, you called me out on that thread where I posted that photo of a stoning in poor judgment, didn't you? How did I respond? I apologized three different times on that thread and I've also offered public apologies on other threads on several different occasions in my short time here on this forum.

That said, I shouldn't have used such a broad brush in my initial comments on this thread. I honestly believe that there are a lot of decent people on this forum and I apologize to anybody whom I might have maligned with my comments. Please forgive me and I'll choose my words more carefully in the future. I'm sorry.
i'm chuckling gently yet with great compassion, because i have my own struggles with self-justification.

still learning about how we all work? you're right.... this ain't the local church. :)
and though i commend the quick apologies, it is also noted you, too, can lose it from time to time.
(me, too, first and foremost!)

i hope you're marking well just who hits 'like' on your posts, and what the tenor of that post is.


i can't have you dogging Utah, because i've become quite fond of him, you know.
he calls me 'little momma', and at my age it's sweet.

(Utah, momma says behave! lol)

actually, i'd prefer you ease up a bit on everyone, and include yourself.

after all, it's God and us, not us and them. :)
 
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i'm chuckling gently yet with great compassion, because i have my own struggles with self-justification.

still learning about how we all work? you're right.... this ain't the local church. :)
and though i commend the quick apologies, it is also noted you, too, can lose it from time to time.
(me, too, first and foremost!)

i hope you're marking well just who hits 'like' on your posts, and what the tenor of that post is.


i can't have you dogging Utah, because i've become quite fond of him, you know.
he calls me 'little momma', and at my age it's sweet.

(Utah, momma says behave! lol)

actually, i'd prefer you ease up a bit on everyone, and include yourself.

after all, it's God and us, not us and them. :)
I'm not sure that I'm reading you correctly in that I'm unsure how self-justification and quick apologies can co-exist. In any case, I am sure of one thing in relation to myself, so I'll just state it plainly:

I would rather die an infinite number of deaths than to sit quietly while I watch somebody do something that is potentially dangerous to their eternal destiny.

The bitter hatred which some exhibit here on this forum towards others will not result in eternal life and whoever believes contrariwise is greatly deceived. At times when I'm momentarily blinded by the same myself, I count those my friends who warn me in regard to the same. I'll remind you that it was you who mentioned how that the wounds of a friend are faithful the other day. If I'm any type of dog, then hopefully it's a seeing eye dog.

Good night.
 
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atwhatcost

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If this site wasn't advertised as a Christian chat, I would agree that controversy would be the main focus. But since it isn't, controversy always gives a bad witness for Christ's sake, and puts Him to an open shame. So shame on us for arguing.
It wasn't a bad witness or shameful when Peter and Paul had at it.

I'm sorry. I really can't buy we should never argue. If we never argued, how much doctrine would we have?
 
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What amazing thread started by VW are you referring to? I'm hoping beyond hope that you're not referring to his The heresies of the few thread, but it seems as if you are because that is where I scolded you and unapologetically so and that is also what prompted my own thread The heresies of the many. Is it even possible that you cannot detect the self-righteous, holier than thou, condescending pride and spiritual elitism even in that thread's title, The heresies of the few? Here is the OP of my The heresies of the many thread in its entirety:

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/115975-heresies-many.html

What is wrong with what I stated and asked there? My point was that whereas people from both sides of opposing arguments regularly accuse members on the other side of being heretics, people from both sides of the argument are regularly exhibiting the works of the flesh as opposed to the fruits of the Spirit and heresies are listed right alongside the works of the flesh. In other words, people from both sides of the opposing arguments ought to seriously consider that they are in fact the heretics in that they're regularly exhibiting the very types of sinful works which appear right alongside heresies. Also, far from siding with the wolverines as you later falsely accused me of in that thread, I was taking neither side in that I believe that people from both sides are wrong, hence my The heresies of the many title, and my target audience was those new to the faith or those considering the Christian faith and not the wolverines that you later alleged that I was siding with.

Again, is The heresies of the few the thread that you're referring to which allegedly shows how to better care on here? If it is, then shame on you. Nothing that I read up until the time that I made my single post and then left showed anything other than sinful pride. Well, except, perhaps, for the post that I agreed with. And what has happened to that forum member since? Well, he was banned from this forum some time within the past two days. Sure, he used a word that he shouldn't have used, but, as usual, forum members provoked him, even as they do others, with their own ungodly behavior. Do you care that this member was banned and that his own faith may become shipwrecked? I do. In fact, I exchanged several pm's with him immediately after I read his post that I agreed with on VW's thread in which I reached out to him and encouraged him to not let the ungodly manners of some darken his own view of Christ and I'm sorry to see him go.


What?

I liked your OP, I commented on the same and even repped you for it, didn't I? How is that me playing the told you so card again? You basically said the same thing that I've been saying all along in your OP, didn't you? Why then aren't you playing the told you so card too? And what is the problem with me telling anybody so anyhow? Somebody certainly needed to speak up against the likes of the things that you and others were supporting in direct contrast to Christ and His Word. It's like I said last night on another thread:


Some of you seem to think that this forum is a church and that you're the pastor, elders and deacons who need to purge out all of the leaven and run the heretics out of town.

You're not. This is a forum. If you cannot interact civilly and respectfully with others of opposing views or beliefs, then shame on you. Seriously, log off of your computers and go and repent before God. How do you people interact with those of opposing views in other life situations? If you have a co-worker who is a non-believer or even a God mocker, do you verbally abuse him, wait for him outside in the parking lot and beat the stuffing out of him or put poison in his coffee and wish him dead? That's the type of attitude which some here have shown towards others and it is utterly reprehensible in the sight of the Lord. If it bothers you that I point out what ought to be obvious to anybody who's read even a tiny portion of the Bible, then that's your own personal problem. If you don't like me or my straightforward manner, then report me, ignore me or whatever. I really don't care. I'm more concerned for those new to the faith and potential seekers than I am for overgrown crybabies.

Also, I have nothing against VW whatsoever and I only mentioned his thread because you mentioned it first. He seems to have done a sincere about face and I respect him for the same. He also has seemingly been encouraging others here to change their tactics as well and if so, then I commend him for that as well.

Finally, none of my comments here were directed at this site's Administrator or Moderators. They have a right to exercise judgment according to the site's rules, but my point is that none of the members here are the judgment seat of Christ. Seriously, drop the shaking the dust off of your feet graphics, the rejoicing emoticons when somebody gets banned and all of the other unholy garbage. Jesus came to save men and not to destroy them. Some of you seemingly have no idea what spirit you're of assuming that you even belong to Christ to begin with.
That wasn't about heresy. That was about how we, as Christians, should deal with heretics in a Christ like way. See? Still scolding without understanding.

And really? I've been scolded enough from you for stuff I'VE NEVER DONE. So, no, not again. I didn't feel like reading more and more paragraphs about YOUR self-righteousness. Your horse just got bigger.
 
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If any of us truly cared about them, the very first (and ONLY) thing we would tell them is to get off this (or any) forum, and go find a local church.
That was very bold statement my man.
 
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psychomom

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I'm not sure that I'm reading you correctly in that I'm unsure how self-justification and quick apologies can co-exist. In any case, I am sure of one thing in relation to myself, so I'll just state it plainly:

I would rather die an infinite number of deaths than to sit quietly while I watch somebody do something that is potentially dangerous to their eternal destiny.

The bitter hatred which some exhibit here on this forum towards others will not result in eternal life and whoever believes contrariwise is greatly deceived. At times when I'm momentarily blinded by the same myself, I count those my friends who warn me in regard to the same. I'll remind you that it was you who mentioned how that the wounds of a friend are faithful the other day. If I'm any type of dog, then hopefully it's a seeing eye dog.

Good night.
ah, i have offended you... i am sorry.

some observations i'll leave to our fellow members to judge:
you entered the thread in self-righteousness ('finally someone else who cares')

you proceeded from there to self-justfication (see the long post above Lynn quoted? that's what that was)
then you apologized.

you're a smart young man who believes he has much knowledge and wisdom to teach.
that's fine.... but remember you're still just like everyone.
good posts and bad; good attitudes and bad.

may the Lord be the Judge.
 
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psychomom

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That wasn't about heresy. That was about how we, as Christians, should deal with heretics in a Christ like way. See? Still scolding without understanding.

And really? I've been scolded enough from you for stuff I'VE NEVER DONE. So, no, not again. I didn't feel like reading more and more paragraphs about YOUR self-righteousness. Your horse just got bigger.
Lynn, i'm reminded of the old saying, 'with the very young, always a little patience'. :)
 
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It wasn't a bad witness or shameful when Peter and Paul had at it.

I'm sorry. I really can't buy we should never argue. If we never argued, how much doctrine would we have?
Amen to that........the problem is all of the ones who claim a level of spirituality they don't really have....being spiritually mature is to not be easily offended...seems some of the so called greatest most spiritual people (all claims) are so easily offended and constantly need their diapers changed and their bottles filled.....
 
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purgedconscience

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ah, i have offended you... i am sorry.

some observations i'll leave to our fellow members to judge:
you entered the thread in self-righteousness ('finally someone else who cares')

you proceeded from there to self-justfication (see the long post above Lynn quoted? that's what that was)
then you apologized.

you're a smart young man who believes he has much knowledge and wisdom to teach.
that's fine.... but remember you're still just like everyone.
good posts and bad; good attitudes and bad.

may the Lord be the Judge.
You haven't offended me at all, so there's no need for you to apologize.

Yes, the Lord is the Judge and He knows me and my motives a lot better than you and certain others apparently do.

I'm through with this conversation.

Have a nice day.
 
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oldthennew

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when we claim the Body of Christ, we must learn to keep our sights on the Light of His Lamp -
we must totally trust in Him to deliver us from all struggles and fights and we must not
fight among one another for if we are brothers and sisters in Christ, God forbid that
we should back-bite, or rail, or go back to any of our old habits of vain conversation.
so, without reservation, we say, may we let our speech be alway with grace,
seasoned with salt, that we may know how to answer every man.'
 
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atwhatcost

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Lynn, i'm reminded of the old saying, 'with the very young, always a little patience'. :)
And I'm reminded of my number one complaint with God, "Yeah, but I want patience NOW!" lol
 
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I wasn't trying to shift any focus nor am I opposed to being called out. I mean, you called me out on that thread where I posted that photo of a stoning in poor judgment, didn't you? How did I respond? I apologized three different times on that thread and I've also offered public apologies on other threads on several different occasions in my short time here on this forum.

That said, I shouldn't have used such a broad brush in my initial comments on this thread. I honestly believe that there are a lot of decent people on this forum and I apologize to anybody whom I might have maligned with my comments. Please forgive me and I'll choose my words more carefully in the future. I'm sorry.
Its all good, Brother. You're a grown man yet still a wee bit young, and I say that with love and affection. I can tell you one thing, you're much more advanced in the faith than I was at 26, and I admire you and respect you for it. Stay strong and be blessed!
 
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i'm chuckling gently yet with great compassion, because i have my own struggles with self-justification.

still learning about how we all work? you're right.... this ain't the local church. :)
and though i commend the quick apologies, it is also noted you, too, can lose it from time to time.
(me, too, first and foremost!)

i hope you're marking well just who hits 'like' on your posts, and what the tenor of that post is.


i can't have you dogging Utah, because i've become quite fond of him, you know.
he calls me 'little momma', and at my age it's sweet.

(Utah, momma says behave! lol)

actually, i'd prefer you ease up a bit on everyone, and include yourself.

after all, it's God and us, not us and them. :)
Momma says behave, then I gotta behave. :cool:

Now that, my friends, is discernment. ;)