Casnios Gambling - Can Christians Do These???

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1still_waters

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Can Christians gamble and go to casinos? What do you think the Bible has to say about this issue?
 
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minnesotablu

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ermmmmm... i'm not sure what the bible says about it. but i totally gamble! lol but see, the way i was taught to gamble was you have one pocket with the money you're going to spend (usually this is only like $10 for me) and then you spend it to play the game (like someone would at an arcade) not to try to get more money. but if u happen to win you just stick the winnings in the other pocket. *shrugs* i see it more as entertainment. as long as you're not going with the intent of coming back with $15,000 more then i think it's okay? that's just my opinion tho. is it still counted as "gambling" if you're certain you're going to spend the $10 and not get anything back? lol hmmm... i never really thought about it.
 
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NazariteNation

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If it's illegal in your state then, absolutely, it is wrong because you are breaking the law. The bible tells us to obey the laws of the land (unless those laws are in direct conflict with the word of God).

As far as legalized gambling is concerned, like buying lotto tickets and playing bingo, I guess that depend on your relationship with the Holy Spirit. Personally, I could never do it because, in my spirit, I feel that gambling is very poor stewardship over the resources that God has entrusted us in order to advance His kingdom. How can we honestly and realistically expect God to bless us in abundance per the future if we squander what He has given us now? It just doesn't feel right to me.
 
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Slepsog4

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Gambling is wrong regardless of how one FEELS about it. It is immoral and unethical. God honors work, gifts, inheritance, investment as legitimate means of gain. Gambling appeals to greed and covetousness. It is a form of theft. It takes from another without a fair exchange of a product or a service.
 

Missy

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I go to the casino once in a while, not expecting to win anything. It isn't appealing to my greed nor am I being stolen from. It's a form of entertainment, like anything else. I don't require anything from it, other than to have fun playing games. I like the video slots, just like playing a video game. I have played for 2 hours on machines on $20. I've played for an hour and a half on $20 playing blackjack. If spending money on entertainment is wrong, then I guess we shouldn't be paying for movies, cable, internet, vacations, bingo, or anything else. If I were spending our entire paycheck on it, then I think that is wasteful and foolish, just like any other wasteful financial purchases. But that's not what I'm doing. The food at the casino I go to is a delicious buffet. All you can eat seafood, prime rib, etc. I love to go for dinner and then play some games. Some of my friends go and we have fun together.

If a person is addicted, then it's a problem, like any other addiction.

The Bible does not address gambling from anything I've read. Some people want to attribute Christ turning over tables in the temple, as rebuking gambling, except,the people were selling sacrifices for God, and cheating people on money changing , that made the Lord angry. I don't see anything anywhere, about gambling. If someone has a verse that addresses it, please show me. If someone can show where it's immoral, than please point out, other than your own personal feelings, what the Bible has to say about the immorality of gamblilng.

I have prayed about this matter and the Lord has not troubled me about it. I trust the Lord would stir my soul to not engage in this form of entertainment, if it were displeasing to Him.
 
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minnesotablu

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Missy you actually touched on my feelings exactly! :) I see it as entertainment as well. I mean, I'm going to play some bingo tonight as a matter of fact and it's what? $6 for 2 and a half hours of fun! I'd pay at least $8.50 to go to a movie and recieve the same amount of entertainment. Well said.

Also, I do want to please God so if it's wrong and the BIBLE says so please give me some quotes!
 
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lil-rush

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I think gambling can become sinful if you don't know how to control it, but gambling such as minnesota does doesn't seem like a sin to me. Sure you could spend your money in better ways, but just because you are wasting money does not mean it is a sin.

I've never actually gambled for money, but I've played with a dreidel, I've played at arcades, I've played poker for chips at home (no money behind the chips though), and other such endeavors and I don't see it as sinful.
 
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Mel

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From what I see here, you might almost be able to put Gambling and alcohal consumption in a similar category.

As long as your not going overboard and have an addiction...... yeah.
 
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roaringkitten

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Just think for a second. To the unsaved in the world.....Are they attracted to things of righteousness? Or are they DOING and attracted to things of darkness? The world HATES righteousness...

"And be NOT conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God." Romans 12:2

So just observe the world around you! What is the mainstream popularity in the secular world promoting? What do they love to do? I guarantee that those things are not pleasing to God.
 
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NazariteNation

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Just think for a second. To the unsaved in the world.....Are they attracted to things of righteousness? Or are they DOING and attracted to things of darkness? The world HATES righteousness...

"And be NOT conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God." Romans 12:2

So just observe the world around you! What is the mainstream popularity in the secular world promoting? What do they love to do? I guarantee that those things are not pleasing to God.
I agree completely. We are called to be set apart, to be in the world but not of the world. Gambling is looked upon as one of the most worldly things we could do by most people. Can you imagine trying to minister to someone today who only yesterday saw you in the casino having a glass of wine and playing poker? While you may have been doing nothing in excess, I doubt that it would go over so well no matter how you try to rationalize it.

Besides, a few dollars here and a few dollars there add up. Just think about all of those commercials you see almost everyday where just a couple dollars a day could feed the hungry or homeless. Ultimately, we are indeed called to be our brother's keeper. A major theme of Jesus' entire ministry was to put the needs of others before ourselves. If the early church would sell everything they had to help meet the needs of others, then doesn't it make sense to take the time and money wasted on amusing ourselves and invest it in the lives of others?

"Do not seek after the pleasures of this world for where your treasure is, your heart is also, but rather store up for yourselves treasure in heaven..."
 
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Slepsog4

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Gambling is not something to be controlled. It is something to be completely avoided. You don't control fornication or adultery. You abstain.

Gambling is a sin... period.
 

olivetree32

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hi guys, i just wanted to say, i don't think its good and i don't believe its from God. People get sucked in to spend money they don't really have in the first place, and if they do win, they want to go back and play more, why? so they can win agian. Thats how satan gets in. Not to condem anyone in this room, but many people have adictions, and gambling is one of them. i do have family that injoy going,but i don't condeme, i just allow the holy spirit to work on them, and stay out of His way. I know, i my self used to go to a casino once and a while before getting serious in my walk. But anyways, as with drinking, and smoking, and anything else, we all still have to answere to God, and if we want as christians to better our walk and become an example to the world, than maybe its best not to go.1Th 5:22Abstain from every form of evil.
 

Missy

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Any Bible verses showing that gambling is a sin? Anyone?
I've seen a quote about not seeking earthly treasures. I can honestly say that by playing video games, or cards, and eating at the buffet, that's not what I'm doing. If I were seeking for treasure, I surely wouldn't be doing it in a casino. Lol.
Just would like for anyone to show me where the Lord tells us not to gamble, or spend money on our entertainment. If it's a sin to spend money on anything other than absolute necessity, then every American has been condemned, because we all watch tv, drive cars, go to movies, buy magazines, have cell phones, have snacks including fast food, have computers, listen to radios, go on vacations, go shopping, hire babysitters, buy plants, get gifts for others, etc.
Lets don't forget Jesus first miracle. It was to make wine at a wedding party that had been going on for days. Lets also don't forget that He sat in the den of tax collectors and others that the scribes and pharasies wouldn't associate with, and met Mary Magdaline there.
As a matter of fact, I have met people at the casino, and at the pool hall, that know I go to church, and know that I'm a Christian. They have seen that they don't have to be "good enough" to go to church and go regularly now. Praise the Lord!!!
 

olivetree32

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well missy, and others. I t hink its altumatly up to you what you do with your walk. Its your life, and your walk with christ. I can only refer to verses about drinking. But, are we to conform to the world, or be transformed by the renewing of our minds as it says in Romans 12
?? I don't think Jesus conformed to get people saved or to like Him. I don't think He had to partack of the worldy stuff to win a soul. So i think He is our best example. But for those who want to drink and camble, its between you and the Lord. A woman asked me one what i thought of drinking, and i gave her some verses from the bible, and said i could not make the choice for her, but did however mention that if a new beliver were to see her and hubby having some drinks, do you think it may stumble them?
1Cr 8:9But beware lest somehow this liberty of yours become a stumbling block to those who are weak.

1Cr 8:10For if anyone sees you who have knowledge eating in an idol's temple, will not the conscience of him who is weak be emboldened to eat those things offered to idols?

1Cr 8:11And because of your knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?

1Cr 8:12But when you thus sin against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ.

1Cr 8:13Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never again eat meat, lest I make my brother stumble.
 

Missy

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OliveTree32, and anyone else...I don't see anything yet, where it says entertainment or drinking is a sin. If Jesus made wine at a party, then maybe it's ok to have a glass or two? We are talking about the Lords example right?
Who decided that these things were sins? It says drink but don't be a drunkard. That seems pretty clear to me. If Christ made wine, then why is it a sin? He was at a party, and made wine. Are you saying that Jesus sinned?
As far as deciding what is pleasing to the Lord, Paul made it pretty clear that NOTHING we do is pleasing. That's why Christ came and died for our sins. We are all atrocious beings that need forgivness.I can stand before the Lord, in all my sin, and flesh, and know that I'm loved and forgiven, for anything I do, say, or think. I love my Father and would go before Him, dancing.
If you have no self control over something, then no, you shouldn't do that. But to judge that for anyone but yourself, you are right, is not your place. If I am to be responsible for someone elses gambling addiction, because I go to the casino, then are you responsible for someone elses compulsive eating disorder, because you go to McDonalds, or some other restaraunt or super market? If I am responsible for someone else being an alcholicic, because I have a glass of wine and shoot a game of pool with my friends, then are you responsible for someone elses addiction to computers, because you are online?
Please, everyone, take yourselves out of the judgement seat. There is only ONE that is qualified to be there.To decide that this or that is a sin, sounds just like what they accused Jesus of without any facts or scripture behind it. They called him a heritic. I say we are ALL, hypocrites.
 

olivetree32

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oh, well please look at the verse i posted above ,its loud and clear! you are sinning agianst your brother missy if you cause that person to stumble. A girl i went to church with had a past drinking problem, and her hubby and a friend would drink in front of her, this hurt her, and was stumbling her. at the time her husband was not a strong christian, and now is. he admits, he was in fact stumbling his wife. but this topic is on casino's, and well, its your choice, and your walk. but im not going to go sit in one so i can win a person to the Lord by partaking in somthing i don't think is from the Lord, sorry but thats the way i feel about it. oh, jesus sat with the tax collectors, but did HE cheat people as well, of course not. He was a light and did not partake in worldly stuff to win the lost. He sat and ate with sinners as He does with us all. because yes i know, no one is good no not one, but that does not mean we have to partake in the old lifestyle we lived before christ, that is why we are a new creation In Christ and not of this world, amen.
 

Missy

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oh, well please look at the verse i posted above ,its loud and clear! you are sinning agianst your brother missy if you cause that person to stumble. A girl i went to church with had a past drinking problem, and her hubby and a friend would drink in front of her, this hurt her, and was stumbling her. at the time her husband was not a strong christian, and now is. he admits, he was in fact stumbling his wife. but this topic is on casino's, and well, its your choice, and your walk. but im not going to go sit in one so i can win a person to the Lord by partaking in somthing i don't think is from the Lord, sorry but thats the way i feel about it. oh, jesus sat with the tax collectors, but did HE cheat people as well, of course not. He was a light and did not partake in worldly stuff to win the lost. He sat and ate with sinners as He does with us all. because yes i know, no one is good no not one, but that does not mean we have to partake in the old lifestyle we lived before christ, that is why we are a new creation In Christ and not of this world, amen.

So, if I'm not gambling with a gamble aholic, then it's ok? If I'm not having wine with an alchoholic, then it's ok? If I'm not being a stumbling block to someone, then I guess I don't need to worry about it. Great!
 

olivetree32

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um, well that is between you and God to deside that. If a brother of sister came to me in advise in what i think, than i would give them scripture, and also yea, i think we are called to be a light missy in a dark place. but what if a christian who saw you in church an hour earlier had a problem, and you did not know they were watching you, hmm, how than is that ok?
 

olivetree32

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i mean really its your choice and im not judging, i just know God's word says He set us apart for Himself.
 
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Slepsog4

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Missy,

Are you saying that God HAS to use your vocabulary before you will conclude that something is wrong or sinful. You want to be childish and play games. Do you have the capacity to apply the principles of scripture as an adult.

I mean the term abortion is not in the Bible either. Marijuana is not in the Bible. Heroin is not in the Bible. Shall I continue?
 
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